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Me watching other states get legal weed and shrooms
if anything this would at least start a new precedent, colorado was the first state to legalize weed also
You guys probably realize this but for those who don't, legalization is not the same as decriminalization
Neither of these things should be classed as they are to begin with. This is was a class and nationality issue.
I dunno. If my experiences with hallucinogens have told me anything it's ; I may be able to hold my shit, but others can't. So I don't know how good an idea this is. I've seen 3 people full on snap. 2 on shroooms one on LSD. Terrifying experiences. I had to hold down a 190 pound man from further destroying his own living room with all my strength for 2 hours. There was no reaching him or calming him down, the only options I had were to feed him some activated charcoal and restrain him. On the flip side, other then temporary freak outs, none of these people had lasting problems, and are pretty well adjusted people now. My own experiences with hallucinogens have been mostly cathartic. I was doing that stuff during a time in my life where I was struggling with grief. Honestly shattering my mind into a thousand shards and then picking up the peices might have been exactly what I needed. Some times the brain needs a good shock and reset. I'd love to see hallucinogens used in more therapeutic setting.
Meanwhile a couple of years ago my country made shrooms illegal because one idiotic tourist girl got drunk, stoned, and then decided to take them, only to have her drown in a river.
Its ok though, truffles are still legal and so are shroom growing kits
No matter the chances of not being able to handle it, I firmly believe them being legal, regulated and education on them being more freely available will only reduce the chances of someone having a bad time.
Could not have said it better myself. I also have had some people freak out on shrooms, but its pretty rare in my experience. A good environment is essential for newcomers. In general I feel like they do more good than harm, and I genuinely believe psychedelics have helped me figure my internal bullshit out. Especially during my time of getting blasted by academics at university.
Just have some downers ready and you won't have these issues. I never trip without a way to kill the trip in case reality comes knocking on the door.
Hallucinogens are all about being prepared and educated before you take them. Chances of a bad trip are significantly lower if everything is set up properly.
I'm iffy on shrooms because I don't have a lot of exposure to the crowd, but one story I heard at a party sticks out, of someone who "woke up" driving barefoot in the middle of the night. They told it like it was a funny story, but it sounds horrifying and extremely dangerous.
Yeah, it that story is true at all then they weren't just on shrooms.
That doesn't sound like shrooms at all.
I mean, the last time I tripped I couldn't even figure out how to work a car door so I can't even imagine trying to figure out the rest of a car.
I forgot to mention it might not have been shrooms, but I know he was on some sort of psychedelic. I won't rule out that he was on more than one thing either. Just anything more than weed sounds iffy to me.
Had a bad breakup, friend of mine died, fell into horrible depression for months, and while visiting a friend at a party someone gave me a handful of shrooms. I don't tend to do drugs like that and figured why not, it was a very interesting experience, shifting my mind in ways of self analysis that were quite helpful to come to terms with why I was beating myself up. For over a month my depression had subsided and I was able to get more confidence and be more sure of myself.
While this is an anecdote and isn't valuable in any sense, it should at least hint that these kinds of compounds might have at least some benefit for people. The drug war seems to stifle a lot of investigation into psychedelics and other drugs and makes it really difficult to do proper studies. Hopefully these pushes for decriminalization will lead to better solutions at helping people.
Sounds like DARE bollocks to me. I've never done shrooms but I've tripsat with people who have been utterly fucking muntered on shrooms (and a variety of drugs) and I've never seen that kind of shit.
Something people don't often realize is that drugs alter and amplify who you are, but they don't create a whole new person inside your head 9 out of 10 times unless that person was already hiding beneath the surface.
People definitely can get blackout dissociative high on shrooms. I was lucky to just go catatonic on a couch in the event of taking to much, but not insignificant amounts of people react outwardly, and others outwardly and explosively. Potency in shrooms is HIGHLY variable and I can speak from experience.
It's not so much a blackout but more like senseless memories discarded by your brain. He was probably lucid for the entire drive but came to his senses at some point with no recollection of how he got there because he didn't realize what he was doing until then.
It doesn't necessarily mean you'll get a fine. In the UK, you get an £80 fine if you're caught with weed and that's it (unless you have a lot or are dealing), but it's still criminalised here.
The last place I want to embark on a 6 hour trip is the city. I love Colorado and all, but Denver isn't a place I would want to trip in. The mountains? Absolutely. Somewhere on 16th street? No thanks.
Normal, sober people are terrifying enough when you're tripping, if I saw Blucifer I would probably never be the same.
The giant, evil horse that fell on and killed it's creator, Blucifer.
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I'm all for legal drugs, but there has to be a cap.
Psychedelics is a good cap. Anything past that and you risk severe damage.
You risk severe damage with anything. People do drugs whether they're illegal or not. Them being illegal just means people are less likely to know what they're doing, less likely to get what they think they're buying, and less able to get help if shit hits the fan.
By this point we've got multiple references to look at regarding what happens when you try to make drugs a criminal issue, and what happens when you try go the other way. Even Alcohol has had it both ways in the US, one of the most dangerous drugs around. Prohibition solved nothing, and it still doesn't.
psychedelics tend not to be physiologically damaging or addictive. there's a risk for psychological dependency with them but such is the case for literally everything
I took shrooms one time. 1.75 grams at once and then continued to eat the rest of the 1.75g and a little bit of my friends' throughout the trip
It was meh. My body kept going from cold to hot rapidly and at one point I got a little dizzy and nauseous. Other than that I was just really, really confused about everything. Not on a spiritual level or anything, I just couldn't process anything that required logic. I had an okay time and I don't think I'd do them again, although it was probably a meh trip because of the way I dosed.
I'm sorry but you missed the joke.
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Even the risk of psychological dependency is self-limiting due to the nature of psychedelics. If you look at anyone who uses psychedelics frequently, the vast majority of them eventually have a really intense experience, be it either positive or negative that causes them to want to stop. One of the main effects of psychedelics is introspection and they tend to make the user think about everything that's happening in their life, so if psychedelic use is a major part of their life, they're eventually going to have an experience where they seriously hash out the benefits of their use and weigh it against the negatives. On the flip side they could just have a really challenging and intense experience that makes them want to be sober for a very long time lol.
That's not to say that psychological dependency isn't a risk though, I just feel like it should be put into perspective because it's not quite the same as with other drugs.
this is happening today
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