• No prison for Pennsylvania mom whose baby died from drug-tainted breast milk
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https://wtvr.com/2019/05/09/no-prison-for-pennsylvania-mom-whose-baby-died-from-drug-tainted-breast-milk/
I don't really know how to feel about this story because I've had drug problems in the past, but if she knew the risks and breastfed anyway, I do think this is probably the wrong approach. I can't actually read the article because I'm in the EU so feel free to correct me wrong on any assumptions.
Three years of probation and 100 hours of community service for literally murdering your kid because you're a worthless fucking meth addict. Should have put her away for life, this is bullshit.
Isn't facepunch usually the place where you people say that using prisons to punish people is inhumane? I'm amazed that for once I'm on the other side of this argument. She didn't murder the child, she made a really bad mistake. Throwing her in prison won't help her get over addiction or be a better person. Its not like she poisoned the baby on purpose. Yeah it was obscenely fucking irresponsible but it was an accident, not malicious. I'm sure she didn't develop a drug addiction with the intent of killing babies. Send her to rehab and make her plant some trees and clean up trash on the side of the road, she'll learn some responsibility. Locking her up won't accomplish anything.
this is a poor message to send if you're trying to treat addiction just fyi. this is a terrible situation. putting her in jail wouldn't accomplish jack shit either beyond spending a buttload of money and making her life even worse than it is.
Normally id agree but this instance ended in the death of a child. Drug possession or usage, yeah prison is a shit place but this woman literally killed her own kid. Do we excuse murder by drunk drivers because they're suffering from addiction and made a mistake? No, we don't.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that comparison doesn't pass the smell test to me personally the woman here just breastfed her child, not realizing that the drugs in her system would be in her breastmilk and kill the infant. That's pretty different from a person knowingly (if inebriated) driving a vehicle which socially is known and considered to be a particularly reckless act. it'd be one thing if the headline was "mother took drugs brought child into car and then got into accident that killed child," but it's not. the long and short of it is that the very thing that prevents people from seeking treatment (a condition necessary to preventing this event) is the sentiment that drug addicts are worthless. y'all contributing to the stigma attached to drug addiction, which just exacerbates literally all of the problems associated with addiction. so.
Uhh you do realise that she was supposedly taking methadone for painkiller addiction right? No doctor who's prescribing a breastfeeding mother methadone Isn't going to tell her to continue breastfeeding. She most definitely knew she shouldn't be breastfeeding, her excuse was literally "I was too tired to mix formula" there's no way she wasn't made aware.
So she should spend her life in jail and not be rehabilitated in any way or anything? Punishment isn’t worth anything here but satisfying a emotional need people have to pretend any of their retribution is merited. It usually isn’t
Sending her to prison won't bring the child back. Stop with the revenge justice mindset, it doesn't work on any level. And I don't agree with the drunk driving analogy because at the end of the day there's a family behind the victims there that need reparations and help coming to terms with it. There's a clear cut set of victims and aggressors. The mother in this case is going through the same thing as the family of the victims, only difference is that she caused it by an incredibly horrid mistake. Community service or whatever, that's fine, but who's helped by throwing her in the clink? What benefit comes out of it? That's the question that should come of it, how to make the best of it after the fact for those victimized and how to teach the aggressors what they did was wrong in a way that makes a lasting impact on them.
this is not an okay she's been punished enough by accidentally killing her own child. I'm sure she's absolutely devastated and wrecked and might not be able to forgive herself. Giving her jail time does not bring the baby back, it does not solve anything, really. It's just cruel. minor punishment like community service for the fact that it was irresponsible along with treatment for her addiction is a proportional sentence imo.
as someone who has been in addiction to opoids and stimulants simultaneously, I fully believe that she could've accidentally done it. Conscious decisions are very much impaired, prone to spontaneous overconfidence, especially in a state of tiredness or hunger. It's terrible, but calling her a worthless meth addict doesn't help anything.
I cant find anything online saying methadone exposure through breastmilk is dangerous. In fact i can only find the opposite, saying that mothers shouldnt be discouraged from breastfeeding while taking it and exposure is minimal. So yeah, fuck her right?
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