Your right, break Zuckerberg up instead, into pieces
You're right, facebook itself should be broken up, not just its subsidiaries. Same eighth most media and good production companies.
He's modular, the individual pieces would communicate remotely, albeit with some lag time. I suspect an EMP attack on the intact unit would be more effective.
I think you're a little biased there bud
Breaking up Facebook isn't going to help [Facebook]
How about we just shut it down all together instead?
amazon, alphabet(google), facebook, all need to be broken up, they gobbled up multi billion dollar companies for a decade without any real oversight because our government is run by 70 year old men
yeah, that's pretty true. They should just get rid of it entirely.
What would be the point of breaking apart Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp? Most of the problems with Facebook, eg invasion of privacy and the influencing of social media by state and other well-funded entities, are problems with the core Facebook business. And how could the core business be broken apart? Messenger could probably be fully separated, as can the Videos part, but those aforementioned problems with the core Facebook business would still persist.
I dislike him heavily but he has a point. In an increasingly digitizing world why would the Feds break up their most success assets in both domestic and foreign affairs?
Secondly wouldn't china gobble all of the broken companies up leaving the U.S.'s tech edge in the dust?
Consolidation problem is far from being exclusive to internet companies
https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6
One issue is that most of these platforms heavily promote their own services for everything and handicap competitors (if they even allow access at all).
It'd probably be possible to write equal-access APIs and UXs for just about any component of the website (federated update streams, photos, event planning, contact list, phone book, comments?, advertising too if you're feeling fancy, games, payment (I think that's coming?)), but the economic incentive is such that that's absolutely not going to happen with any large-scale for-profit entity unless that is regulated to the point where the fines would be completely unsustainable otherwise.
The thing is that you'll have to break up almost every large company, because the moment one large company gets broken up, other large companies (especially telecom) are going to swoop in an pick up their remains. You think AT&T wouldn't like to have their own piece of Facebook?
Corporate consolidation is a major issue plaguing America. I don't know how to avoid this problem either because convergence is an inevitability of any system; you can only change what it converges into: corporations or government.
Breaking up megacorporations and monopolies seems like a temporary solution to a systemic problems. What stops them from consodilating power again?
Nothing; it only resets the problem:
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1097/796eba11-9169-4f66-abe1-382e4946556d/Capture.PNG
It seems to me that regulating is a continous process, there are rarely permanent solutions to issues.
The thing is that breaking up Facebook, Alphabet and Amazon wouldn't actually solve the problem. It's basically just setting the clock back to zero. We'll be back here again before you know it. Besides, you could make the argument that even if we broke up Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp etc they would carry on doing the things they do, only now legally they'd be different companies. Which isn't exactly a change, so much as redefining the rules slightly and then letting things carry on as they are.
We need to address the system causes of the broken internet and its effects on our world, and teach people why they should care about what Facebook is doing to society. I hate that most proposed solutions are just mucking about with knobs and dials in an existing fundamentally broken system, rather than making outright changes. It's like in our minds the status quo is just a natural state and not one forced upon us by money making algorithms with more power than god. This doesn't just apply to Facebook either, I'm talking about climate change, healthcare, education, unemployment etc etc
All that said, yeah break up Facebook, Amazon, Disney and every company Murdoch has ever so much as looked at. I'm not against it in the short-term.
unless we don't allow them to recombine.
You can't realistically enforce that. Companies evolve and change hands and directions all the time. The company of today won't be the same thing 50 years from now post breakup.
The realest way to keep these things in check is to increase regulation, and consequently increase enforcement. Limit what companies can do, and be clear about what they cannot do.
If regulations fail, then we can use the reset option as a last resort and subject the new companies to further regulation.
Situations like ISPs wouldn't be so bad with proper regulation from the word go.
i want to see facebook shut down in my lifetime
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