• Poll surge for Nigel Farage sparks panic among the Tories and Labour
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/11/poll-surge-for-farage-panic-conservatives-and-labour https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/brexit-party-may-get-more-eu-election-votes-than-tories-and-labour-combined-poll Senior Tory and Labour politicians have issued frantic calls to their voters to back them in next week’s European elections after a new poll showed support for Nigel Farage’s Brexit party had soared to a level higher than for the two main parties put together.
I do wish the voters of Great Britain who would vote for Nigel could see how he truly is out for only himself. The man who shanghai'd everybody into voting for Brexit immediately stepped down and disappeared into the European Union following what he immediately did. I think the UK could definitely do with a recount or, simply, more information about the consequences and benefits of leaving the EU.
What they need to do is go 'hey guys, look, you lot are pretty much evenly undecided on the measure, and just planning and thinking about leaving has fucked the country good and proper, so we're gonna throw that stupid referendum out the window and cancel Article 50'.
They're certainly not gonna do that if the Brexit Party win this kind of vote share, it could kill any chance of a second referendum and make them actually do No Deal
Can't do No Deal if A50 isn't even invoked anymore. Have to re-invoke it. And I doubt the EU is going to accept another invokation from just one brand new party headed by a self-serving shithead that only has support of a third or so of the country it supposedly serves.
It's bizarre because the British public generally abhor Trump, yet somehow his friend and fellow hero of the working class Farage manages to retain popularity whenever he springs into inaction. Maybe it's because he disappears back up his own arsehole whenever there's real work to be done, so he's never blamed for it.
I hope for every article about the miracle of Nigel Farage there is one pointing out the resurgence of the Lib Dems (who actually have a manifesto and are brazenly clear about their intentions) otherwise it would seem (who are we kidding it's clear as fucking glass) that the media is actually trying to hype up this collection of demon spawn and gammon.
Politics these days make me want to vote yes on a earth exit referendum
Did any of you guys from the UK see Question Time on Thursday night? Farage was there and I've never seen a Question Time audience so divided and rowdy. It was certainly a spectacle and it indicated to me that UK politics has become even more toxic the last few months.
My only knowledge of that QT is that the BBC refused to air the Have I Got News For You episode that ran the same night because it had an MP who has opinions on Brexit hosting it. Because it's so close to the election and would be "politically charged" (that's sorta the entire point of HIGNFY but whatever). Just to host Farage on QT instead. Yes. Definitely a fair decision to make, letting a genuine fascist nationalist twat voice his opinion to a hand picked crowd of Tory plants. Because that's basically all QT seems to be right now, a bunch of Tory councillors asking questions whilst pretending to be average people.
I was upset by the HIGNFY thing but it's because Ofcom don't like it when a show, especially entertainment, has a candidate on during an election, as it can appear like tacit endorsement of that candidate and party. QT is different because it's a serious show unlike HIGNFY and more importantly presents multiple perspectives. I was saddened that the HIGNFY episode was scrubbed but I understand why it happened. Suggesting that the QT audience were Tory plants is dumb. The BBC are always very careful about their audiences and are definitely not pro-Tory. Whether you like it or not, and I certainly don't, Nigel Farage is relevant. The BBC is a public broadcaster and has a responsibility to the public to provide an impartial political format. The BBC is not allowed to discriminate based on their personal views by law. Not sure why you have a problem with QT - it's been on for years and has always been fair.
I wouldn't be surprised if when Nigel left UKIP he took his rubles with him.
The BBC may not be allowed to discriminate by law, but that doesn't mean they haven't skewed perspectives on things a bit in the past. Their Brexit coverage has ranged from actually fair, to strangely side taking. But the BBC have a habit of inviting the same former UKIP candidate on to QT despite the fact he's not local. Or that time no less than 5 Tory activists were pulled in, and they all asked fucking stupid questions targeting one panelist. Question Time is an important program, as it gives the public a means to get their questions heard, and get their answers sent to the largest audiences. But it's asinine to claim that they've never fucked the audience bias up. It's happened a lot more than it should in the last couple of years. Either the questioning is flawed, or the people performing the questioning aren't doing a good enough job to prevent repeated appearances or accidental biases. The overall bias of the BBC being centre-left doesn't really mean much if an individual show is fucking this up (though if MBFC is a US organisation, "centre-left" is utterly meaningless as the US is so right leaning).
I'm not sure the classical 'centre left' bias even holds anymore, especially since the Tories reformed the BBC's structure and made its supposedly independent oversight panel one that is effectively elected by the government. Anyone following the BBC's political reporting over the past few years will have noticed a pretty severe degradation in supposed impartiality and quality of reporting.
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