Imagine paying $800 for what probably cost 20 cents to make, brand clothing is a fucking scam
Honestly I think this is a genuine example of cultural appropriation. Gucci and Nordstrom did an amazing amount of NO research into why people wear turbans to begin with... Just to make some money. Shame.
the money is negligible to them
it's just a playground and the outrage is expected
I wish we had a metric to measure the outrage to money making combo that this shit pulls off because it feels like every week at this point with the brand name clothes.
Yeah this is pretty blatant cultural appropriation, turbans are a major symbol of Sikhism due to them literally being a required uniform for initiated members of the faith. According to Sikh belief, all life is sacred and the creations of God are perfect in their natural state, as such it's sinful to cut one's hair, instead in the interest of cleanliness and practicality, the hair should be tied up and kept within the turban.
Also it's kind of a scam, a basic turban is just a length of cloth that's tied around the head, I'm assuming this is either stitched or glued together, but definitely isn't worth $800; there's a store literally next door to where I work that sells fabric by the yard, you could get enough fabric to make a turban there for $20.
Yep, that's brand clothing for ya
It's okay because it was made right where the heart is by real Indian children.
I stand firmly with cultural appropriation as it is the only way for smaller cultures to survive when inevitably surrounded by bigger cultures. Sure Gucci's motivation was milk the cattle but in the broad scheme if some dumbass buys a $600 turban and gets even slightly informed about sihk traditions then that has given ever so slightly more wax for the candle to burn.
by headline alone I thought I couldn't be that bad, as the turban is an article of clothing—why can't turban-wearers have a little designer clothes fun? but seeing it on those runway models is total bullshit & a no from me lmao.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8wB7izUIAAzm2l.jpg
Imagine being the kinda degenerate that buys a non-tacitcool turban.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109874/8d018e73-06f7-4ecd-b861-427afb26acc6/image.png
honestly the turban is far too common to argue cultural appropriation
it's not just a sikh thing
It's like saying a robe or something is cultural appropriation
Oh no, rappers are gonna boycott Gucci for another few months, and then ball out at other Gucci affiliated brands instead.
I don't think this is cultural appropriation "because they're selling it", Gucci have every right to scam customers with turbans if they want to. It's not like the only people who are allowed to sell turbans are other Sikhs? I guess the most you could argue that selling a 600 quid turban is disrespectful to the faith.
The idea of appropriation is they're taking something that's an important symbol, and just acting like it's a perfectly mundane fashion accessory. It's not just selling it at ludicrously overinflated prices, it's selling it with no understanding of what it actually is.
A piece of cloth you wrap around your head that is worn by literally hundreds of millions of humans across a broad spectrum of cultures. How dare a clothing company sell such a thing.
I'm inclined to agree with this. This isn't like a native american headdress where only certain people are allowed to wear it.
I don't think that the problem is cultural appropriation. Not unless they start suing other turban makers, anyway. The problem is that they're insulting the intelligence of any potential customer. A turban is a couple of large squares of featureless cloth that are wrapped in a certain way. Anyone who would be okay with paying nearly 800 USD for something like that is clearly brain dead.
I don't like speaking for other people, but you're the one placing a incredibly high standard on Turbans. Even in Punjab they will have factories producing Turbans without people blessing every single one coming off the assembly line, it's just a normal part of life. Even if we agree it's "cultural appropriation", I won't ever agree that companies not owned by that somebody identifying from that culture producing it is an issue.
it's the 2019 Gucci "Gucci deeply apologizes" collection.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/458919/650993b8-cada-4a52-af2b-f0943ae5a041/sorry.png
Brands using controversy to sell shit is really annoying.
Gucci's doing lots of weird shit recently, I guess they sponsor The Black Lips now too
https://www.gucci.com/pl/en_gb/st/stories/article/prefall-2019-guccigig-cole-alexander
as a mixed race dude I hate the idea of cultural appropriation. Nobody on my Indian side of the family could give two shits if some one is using henna, wearing a turban, etc... It’s only people in western countries who seem to care about this stuff.
Hell if I wear a “fashionable” version of a Catholic priest robe, why the fuck not.
Why did they get the whitest people they could possibly find to model it lmao. The guy on the right looks like he's just come out of hibernating in an ice cave
Can we take a moment to comment on how it's a god-awfully ugly turban and how fucking horribly it clashes with those also-awful outfits shown? I'm not sure who thought 'shakespeare-in-a-hjiab-and-also-a-turban' was a good look, but I am pretty sure they're wrong. Brown-suit-boi is slightly less horrible, but the cut of the suit makes him look super fuckin' long, and the way he wears that lady-bag at fucking knee-height is just plain awful. Also the strap is way too narrow for that bag, that shit gotta cut into his shoulder something fierce.
http://www.indianwomenblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/cover-158.jpg
Also patterned stocking and what looks like sneakers.
There's loads of interesting high fashion design but that last picture just looks like someone raided a thrift shop while blindfolded. Where's the creativity/innovation?
It's not really a serious issue, it's just kind of like people getting Japanese tattoos or Chinese goods with random letters printed on them, or that Seinfeld episode where a guy converted to Judaism just so he could make Jewish jokes. It's just people making themselves look like idiots.
Also Sikhs don't bless their turbans, the significance is in the wearing and giving of turbans. It's a major religious ceremony when a child puts on their first turban, a sign of strong friendship to give someone a turban, and a part of funerals to place a turban on the new head of the household after honoring the dead. Turbans are strongly associated with honor and piety in the Sikh identity, to the point where there's a Punjabi term for insulting someone that literally translates as dirtying their turban.
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