• Sweden set to ban outdoor smoking in July
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https://www.aninews.in/news/world/europe/sweden-set-to-ban-outdoor-smoking20190519040200/
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That's how it is here in Canada.
Under the ban, smoking will not be allowed in outdoor serving areas at cafes and restaurants, along with public playgrounds, bus shelters, and train platforms, sports arenas and entrances to civic buildings. It only seems to apply to heavily visited public spaces, just smoke somewhere out of the way and you should be good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwabhE_pqKM
I understand that but it's honestly not fair on everyone else who is sitting outside. Hopefully some establishments might open dedicated smoking areas, I know some pubs around here offer that.
Sure. I see the hassle for smokers in that situation but passive tabagism and cigarette culture are major root causes that have to be adressed if you want smoking to die out. I see this being more effective than raising the price of tobacco, that's a given.
Enforcing common courtesy
Well, we also have pretty high tobacco taxes. It's an additional € ,15 per cigarette.
And then there are pubs who do not really care, and/or set up certain tables outside where smoking is allowed, so that these tables are not located in the immediate vicinity of the entrance. Like in one pub near my place, which I found to be quite clever.
i bet at most this will just make smokers take an extra two steps away from doors and shit lol
we have rules like this here as someone said earlier but its not really enforced unless there are police around and most of the time they just tell people to put it out. also they wont totally ban it outside bars, not yet at least. most likely youll end up with designated smokers sections that are already part of the bars property.
This is how it is where I live already, but everyone still smokes outside of bars anyway unless other people are around
this is like company smoking bans, they don't really reduce employee smoking rates but the company can say they aren't liable for second hand smoke or something and feel better, meanwhile smokers are now standing in the streets outside their workplaces.
Hookah is not even remotely as dangerous as unfiltered second-hand smoke from a cigarette.
It does however suck to sit outside trying to enjoy the good weather and some dickhead decides to ruin the nice air with his addiction
There are no smoking signs on the train station platforms (at least in my city) and it hasn't really done that much since inconsiderate people will still be inconsiderate people
The Swedish Police State once again destroying free speech, when will this oppressive fascist regime be stopped
Luxembourg Almost fooled me there!
... the smell isn't the main problem, it's the toxic hazard of which the nature between hookah and cigarettes is incomparable.
hookah smoke is still tobacco smoke and it smells up the block.
Hookah is usually just pure tobacco, cigarettes contain hundreds of carcinogens. They don't compare in the slightest in terms of toxicity to second-hand bystanders.
dude, the tobacco is the carcinogens, doesn't matter what you smoke it through Hookahs | CDC the CDC isn't ambiguous, its a tobacco product that has many of the problems of tobacco products.
The tobacco is A carcinogen. Not THE carcinogen. Cigarettes contain hundreds of other toxic substances that hookahs do not. To say that they are "equally" toxic is absolutely absurd. The CDC information you're linking speaks about direct contact, not second-hand exposure: http://www.lungusa2.org/embargo/slati/Trendalert_Waterpipes.pdf Waterpipe use may increase exposure to carcinogens because smokers use a waterpipe over a much longer period of time, often 40 to 45 minutes, rather than the 5 to 10 minutes it takes to smoke a cigarette. Due to the longer, more sustained period of inhalation and exposure, a waterpipe smoker may inhale as much smoke as consuming 100 or more cigarettes during a single session.10 These studies provide compelling initial data which suggest that waterpipe smoke is at least as toxic as cigarette smoke. 
you're still inhaling burning tobacco, the water isn't doing shit to strip it of any toxic components, and you've added charcoal smoke to the mix
Holy shit, are you this bad at reading? The ban is on second-hand, involuntary consumption. The toxic effects of hookah versus cigarettes are not comparable from a first-hand, voluntary consumption standpoint unless you sit through longer 40-45 minute sessions of exposure. You standing next to a hookah bar and you standing next to a smoker having a cigarette are not comparable in terms of toxicity.
I don't like when people smoke in front of public buildings and stuff, but there should be an exception for bars at least. I've cut down my own smoking massively in the last couple of years to only smoking when I'm out drinking on the weekend, but I really enjoy having a cigarette or several while sitting at a bar terrace with my pint.
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