Kamala Harris announces plan to close the gender pay gap
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/20/us/politics/kamala-harris-gender-pay-gap.html
Kamala Harris literally either does not understand the earnings gap or does and is making a completely hollow statement she knows does nothing.
i get paid the same as men who do my job. it's not a gender pay gap. it's an earnings gap because women tend to take more time off, including maternity leave and so on. men tend to take on more overtime.
i wish this dumb ass myth would subside so we can focus on actual social issues that actually need addressing.
At the very least this will take care of companies like Riot Games with rampant sexism issues. Won't fix the problem where women get paid less because the jobs women are more likely to take are undervalued by American society.
I support this, if only to show that men and women are paid the exact same 98% of the time and that there is no such thing as a wage gap but an earnings gap, and so we can focus on actually paying decently for the kinds of jobs women take.
Another example, I get paid twice as much making cartoons as my wife does doing actual full time child care with 10 - 20 kids at a time.
Both took about a year of post-secondary education.
Her job is easily more difficult and important than mine, but she's paid half as much.
Under Ms. Harris’s proposal, companies that do not meet the pay
certification standards would be fined 1 percent of their profits for
every 1 percent difference in pay between men and women. The proposal
also says that, should Congress fail to act, Ms. Harris would apply
these standards to federal contractors unilaterally, barring companies
that fail to obtain an “equal pay certification” from competing for
federal contracts valued at more than $500,000.
Other countries in the EU were more aggressive than this, and we barely have put into control the problem, this is just a "feel good" useless act.
Part of it is also social pressures that make it significantly more likely for male employees to ask for a raise, which is a little more of a complicated issue.
I've asked for and gotten every raise I've ever gotten
...congratulations? That was the point of that post. The point was due social expectations men are expected to, and therefore more likely to, ask for raises. Not that they're more likely to get a raise after asking.
Sample size 1 study
Hello I'm a woman
Hello?
I noticed. You still missed the point of that post. Yes, if you ask for your raises you're likely to get them, this honestly likely stays true across the board if you're not a shit-tier employee. But that doesn't mean women are asking for raises as much as men. In a genuinely equal society we'd see parity. We don't see that however. Why?
Fucking and? You're one person. That's just as dumb as Trump saying there's no global warming cuz snow
My point was that it's significantly less likely for women to ask for raises due to social pressures that socialize women to try and "not be a bother", which is a facet of a much larger issue that also leads to them being viewed as less capable, leading to significantly less respect being offered, leading to less promotions, etc etc.
If we factor in that men take on more overtime and women take more time off, statistically speaking, would that not explain that men tend to ask for raises more than women considering they work more hours statistically speaking
Definitely not.
I'm really not sure why you're trying to deny that those pressures are there, they're super evident and they strongly impact people.
I can't stand her fucking hand gestures that are supposed to emulate Obama verbatim.
Okay hun, nice internalized mysoginy, keep going.
Oh I'm sorry, did I miss the writing on the wall that says we can only have one problem at a time? And the one that says the father can't ever stay home to care for a baby instead of the mother?
Well flash news: I'm not doing your fucking overtime just for having a dick between my leg. Get bent with that pragerU shit.
Many men would also like to take time off and look after their kids, but are discouraged from doing so by gendered biases in the workplace. Some women also want to work while their partner looks after their children, but many employers assume that only female employees ask for paternity leave and that factors into hiring and wage decisions.
Part of it could be that, a bigger factor would be the role of male competitiveness and aggressiveness in any negotiation
These are two sides of the same coin. They're the same thing.
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