Anyone got a link to something that isn't this fucking paysite?
Open the link in Incognito mode.
the guided-missile submarine USS Florida
Florida man submarine strikes again.
Sailors aboard a U.S. Navy submarine circulated sexually explicit lists that ranked female crew members, an investigation found. The lists, first reported Friday by Military.com, were uncovered through a Freedom of Information Act request.
The 74-page investigative report reveals two lists — one with Yelplike star ratings on the women and another containing “lewd and sexist comments” beside each woman’s name, according to Military.com.
In February 2018, the guided-missile submarine USS Florida became the second to integrate female members. The misconduct came to light four months later, when two sailors aboard the Florida brought the lists to a superior officer, reporting that they were stored on an internal computer network and updated regularly, Military.com reported.
Sailors ranked female crew and the sex acts they wanted to perform with them, Navy report says
The guided-missile submarine USS Florida pulls into port in 2006 in Mayport, Fla. (Stephen Morton/AP)
By Deanna Paul May 19 at 5:51 PM
Sailors aboard a U.S. Navy submarine circulated sexually explicit lists that ranked female crew members, an investigation found. The lists, first reported Friday by Military.com, were uncovered through a Freedom of Information Act request.
The 74-page investigative report reveals two lists — one with Yelplike star ratings on the women and another containing “lewd and sexist comments” beside each woman’s name, according to Military.com.
In February 2018, the guided-missile submarine USS Florida became the second to integrate female members. The misconduct came to light four months later, when two sailors aboard the Florida brought the lists to a superior officer, reporting that they were stored on an internal computer network and updated regularly, Military.com reported.
At the time, the submarine employed 32 women in its 173-person crew.
The lists — which Military.com characterizes as “rape lists” — were described as ranking “females by appearances, characteristics and various sexual acts the creators of the list wish to perform with them,” including “aggressive sexual activity.” The lists do “not reference non-consensual acts,” the report said, according to Military.com, noting that a search of submarine networks by commanding officer Capt. Gregory Kercher and a forensic test by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service did not locate either list.
The officers reported the existence of the lists in early June, the outlet reported. By the time the complaint reached Kercher, the investigation alleged, the sexual-assault-prevention point person, an equal-opportunity manager and Kercher’s higher-up adviser had already been notified about the lists, too.
Kercher, who did not respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment, did not open a formal investigation or discuss the allegations with his command, according to Military.com. Instead, he purportedly addressed the problem by identifying crew members who were accessing and sharing the lists.
By means that are unclear, Navy officials above Kercher found out about the lists and conducted a formal investigation while the submarine was in the Indian Ocean. The date the investigation began is unknown.
The investigation concluded that “trust up and down the chain of command was nonexistent,” according to Military.com.
With rumors swirling, relations among shipmates deteriorated. One woman told Military.com that she began to “question all males on the boat.” Another said she felt compelled to send photos of the lists to family members at home; she worried that the chain of command would “sweep it under the rug.”
Rear Adm. Jeff Jablon, then-commander of Submarine Group 10, wrote in a letter obtained by Military.com that few crew members knew what, if any, action had been taken by higher-ups.
“Significant numbers of females became concerned for their safety,” he wrote, “and male members who learned of the list were equally repulsed,” the outlet reports.
As a result of the investigation, Kercher was fired; he had held the position for five months, during which there were also complaints of high workloads. Jablon said Kercher fell “far short of expected standards and norms for an event of this magnitude.”
Two sailors were discharged and “additional administrative actions were taken” against several others who mishandled the incident, and the investigation concluded that the equal-opportunity reporting process was ineffective, U.S. submarine services spokeswoman Sarah Self-Kyler told Military.com.
In a statement provided to Military.com, Adm. Chas Richard, commander of U.S. Submarine Forces, said: “While I cannot guarantee that an incident such as this will never happen again, I can guarantee that we will continue to enforce our high standards of conduct and character in the Force,” adding that anyone who falls short of those expectations would be held accountable.
What the fuck is going on with the Navy lately?
Also seriously imagine being any of these women and how horrifying that is. You're trapped in the ocean vastly outnumbered by guys and you don't know which of them want to rape you, hell, it could be all of them. Imagine finding out you're on a rape list. Imagine finding out you're at the top or the bottom of a rape list.
The fuck, dude
Kercher, who did not respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment, did not open a formal investigation or discuss the allegations with his command, according to Military.com. Instead, he purportedly addressed the problem by identifying crew members who were accessing and sharing the lists.
Ah, he responded with the same amount of authority and force as my manager does when he finds out somebody forgot to empty the bins,.
This sort of "Under the Rug/Deal With On The Down Low" culture has been a hallmark of the navy for literally decades.
Clashes between higher ranked members in an elaborate game of office politics goes back to before the Second World War.
From the perspective of a mid/high ranking naval officer, having something like this happen on your watch potentially ruins your career and any prospects of advancing it, so there is tangible incentive to deal with it quietly.
To be fair, there are numerous upstanding officers (even in this example with multiple subordinate officers trying to do the right thing) that act with integrity, but it only takes a handful with the willingness to put their career over duty to perpetuate the circumstances that allow this to happen.
Side note, I had no idea that we had begun to integrate our submarines. Hopefully this awful situation doesn't put an end to the integration.
This has been reposted in almost every thread where WaPo comes up, and it's common sense by now that it's standard procedure with paywall sites. It should honestly just be bannable to comment about it without trying.
This is like a really fucked up adult version of bullying being a massive problem in schools.
Believe or not, this is typically what we want done in service. Ideally this is to prevent things like even more non-factual rumors to circulate, people wanting to seek justice, and plethora of other things.
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