Discriminatory "save Chick-fil-a" bill passes as governor compliments food
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/21/politics/texas-house-chick-fil-a-bill/index.html
The Texas House passed legislation on Tuesday that supporters say provides religious protections, but Democrats and critics argue would allow discrimination against the state's LGBTQ community.
Nicknamed the "Save Chick-fil-A" bill, Senate Bill 1978 was approved by the Republican-led Texas House in a 79-64 vote Tuesday. The measure initially passed the Senate in a 19-12 vote last week, and now returns to the chamber for final passage before heading to the governor's desk for approval.Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has indicated he will sign the bill into law.
The measure, authored by Republican Sen. Bryan Hughes, prohibits the government from taking "adverse action" against any individuals or businesses based on membership, support or donations to religious groups. The bill was amended on Monday to remove language that would have allowed the Texas attorney general to bring action against any government entity or employee that refused to comply with the bill.
i have a hard time believing that "they want to take your chick-fil-a" was an effective campaign strategy somehow but nothing's surprising anymore
I love the implication that the company couldn't exist without discrimination.
Truly next level mental gymnastics.
I mean, I would be royally pissed if someone took away my Chick-fil-a. But, I would be even more royally pissed if someone passed a bill allowing businesses to discriminate, and it had no effect on the Chick-fil-a that was being used as a scare tactic.
I fucking hate how they conflate this as a religious issue.
It's a discrimination issue. If you're supporting a group that actively discriminates against people for any reason, religious, racial, sexual, whatever, you deserve to be penalised for supporting their hatred. Nobody gives a shit if you're just funding Church groups or whatever.
Your religion doesn't give you the right to shit all over people you don't like because Sky Daddy told you they were icky. And those icky people, believe it or not, don't give a shit about your religion unless you're using it as an excuse to murder or deny our rights just because we don't fit your fucking mould of what a 'good person' is.
Where the hell did Christians get the idea they are an oppressed group anyway? They basically run this country but the moment an airport doesn't want a Chick-Fil-A or an LGBT person wants to exist suddenly they act like they have no rights and the world is out to destroy them for their beliefs..
The idea that there is an enemy out to get them justifies their discrimination and overwhelming hatred. We gotta get them because they get us! And they are absolutely terrified that they might lose their position of power someday.
I wonder if there's also an underlying paranoia that the people they hate will treat them the same way if the positions are reversed.
Thousands of citizens dying and struggling with basic healthcare, US Government's response is "we gotta save this fast food business!"
Christians have been trying to rewrite American history forever by changing shit to capitulate to their religion and pretending it was always like that.
Adding "In God We Trust" to money, shoving "Under God" into the pledge, then turning around and bellowing "AMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN NATION" until generations take that as an axiom.
That's what most of them think: THEY own the country, and you're just allowed to live in it, so sit down shut up, and keep your legs closed till you're married you filthy heathen.
That, and the USA was the first theocracy to ever exist apparently, and before then there was only paganism and satanists living like it's always The Purge, I guess, because that's their vision of a godless world. A dog eat dog place where your next door neighbor will rob and kill you as soon as look at you, if not for the guiding principles of The Lord.
It's really telling that to prove it, they'll list obvious laws against theft and murder and say the Ten Commandments formed the basis for our legal system... despite things like the establishment clause existing... strike one, you're out.
See, they HAVE to believe without God that people will just fucking eat each other in order to frame themselves as the moral arbiters of the planet.
So yeah, basically their notion is that if they don't recieve preferential treatment by law and are only as well represented as every other group, or some corporations decide of their own accord that saying "happy holidays" is less likely to offend customers... well CLEARLY something has gone amiss, and those damn atheists are conspiring to put Christians in camps and outlaw the Bible!
I fucking WISH I was exaggerating.
there's a line of cars down the road every night at the chick fill a in the richer part of town by me, I think they're doing pretty fine for a church that also sells chicken
I bet if a kebab placed opened up that funded some Muslim foundations, the same people would be pissed off.
prohibits the government from taking "adverse action" against any individuals or businesses based on membership, support or donations to religious groups
Dumb question, but it's there a formal definition of religious groups? Does this bill allow support of extremest groups (that label themselves as religious)?
Won't somebody please think of the children big business?!
IIRC Under God was added to show those godless commies a thing or two in the 50's/
Victimhood always justifies the worst atrocities in human history. The Nazis pretended they were oppressed by the Jews, Israel uses it to justify their own ethnic cleansing in Palestine, etc.
I guess this means you gotta keep your nose out of the business of muslims, godless satanists, and atheists now doesn't it, according to the text of your own bill
"What are the odds you'll notice I'm corrupt? I'll let you know someday..."
I have a feeling that The Satanic Temple is going to have a field day with this
Now I want to know what they'd serve at a Satanist restaurant
Another thing to keep in mind is that the main reason why Chick-Fil-A was denied a spot in the airport was because they are closed on Sundays
So I guess by actively refusing to do business, despite the owners of the space expecting a certain amount of profit from you, you are expressing freedom of religion and therefore anyone who would be concerned about losing a day of potential profits is thereby discriminating against you?
I love to see religious groups push for stuff like this because it always comes to bite them in the ass when they realize it also benefits religious groups they don't like.
They tend to forget there is more then one religion that isn't theirs.
This is the "we do whatever we want because religion and you deal with it" bill, so essentially.
This is the exact opposite of the free market dealings that Republicans allegedly want.
Some churches are like madhouses. There’s a decent church I’ve been to in my youth and they were huge and had their own school. They seem okay.
but every holiday like Mother’s Day/Easter my grandma invites me and my mom to church. I’ve been there since a kid also. It’s way smaller. That place has done more damage to my faith than Reddit atheism propaganda at this point. This one woman goes hysterical in tears and freak outs every time I’ve been there. I always dread it’s coming. Most memorable was this intense rant about how she’s terrified for her grandsons soul because he’s gay or something. It didn’t even sound hateful at its base, just genuinely mortified. I felt like I was listening to ramblings of a cult.
They also talk about politics way too much. I don’t necessarily believe that at its core religion is a political manipulation cult, but that one specific church sure feels like it. My uncle handed me a wad of ones to drop in the tribute thing (the little bucket they pass around to donate to the church fund) and I thought about just pocketing it.
Decided against that, seemed morally incorrect. Immediately regretted it because not long after the pastor was showing us a letter from a foundation and basically telling us the recent tributes from the prior weeks went to a pro-life lobby. This was just a bit before the Alabama ban, mother’s day.
I think separation of church and state is highly important, as do I drowning out these opportunistic, bad Christians with more positive churches like the bigger one I mentioned. I hate when there’s people citing Old Testament to justify their bigotry in Christ (omegalol if you know anything about the man) despite the verse about the new covenant
I am going to quote my answer from another thread where a similar question was asked:
Christians were a persecuted group once and because a lot of the new testament epistles talks about that persecution and those epistles are the basis of a lot of sermon the thought "we are persecuted" unfortunately works itself into the Christian mindset.
I used to go to a pretty decent church. I don't remember any political motivations at all, but the preacher had cheated on his wife at some point, so I guess no church is perfect?
I detest cheating but I’m not sure I’d count his infidelity against the church itself. Churches are typically like communities anyway. I personally always thought seeing pastors as their own angelic figures was weird, pastors are just people. Some pastors are even reformed crooks/addicts/desperate sinners and reference it in their examples to inspire the less fortunate going through similar struggles.
but yes. I haven’t ever seen a “perfect” church. Hell the one I was praising, the school side I had numerous issues with the faculty when I was enrolled there. 4th grade teacher choked me being a pretty big one.
I think representing the true message of Christ without the bigotry and political manipulation, generally being a non-toxic safe community is already a big enough plus given how outnumbered they are by churches not doing so.
Correct, it was added to our allegiance in 1954 and to our money in 1956 to help strengthen America's hatred of the Soviet Union and help define sides in the cold war in a way that could be naturally-ingrained into the minds of the citizens, as the USSR was increasingly atheistic and the People's Republic of China was predominantly atheists and had seceded from the Republic of China (now just Taiwan) in 1949, so the increase in communism was considered a legitimate threat and they needed a way to exploit man's tendency toward team mindsets.
Naturally, they now just want to pretend like it was always there (as opposed to not even for half of America's history) so they can fabricate an attack on religion while attacking other religions, because history is only a suggestion with these people and not a requirement to know, correctly.
I mean, traditionally, Christianity (and any other religion) has been a reason for persecution in countries where adherents are the minority. It's still going on to this day: China is probably the most notable example, although other religious minorities there have it even worse than the Christians.
What Christians in the US have conveniently forgotten is that they and other theists have been the majority in this country for ages and haven't suffered compared to most other people groups living here. Just look at the statistics for how few people are willing to vote for an atheist candidate. Or hell, the preferential treatment Christian churches have gotten in our tax code for ages, despite them routinely breaking the laws about non-profits being banned from endorsing political candidates. The truth is, if you're a white christian, you are the least likely to be "persecuted" of any group of people in this country.
Considering it’s mostly boomers of low comprehension I don’t think it’s unreasonable to presume they’re not pretending but actually think it’s always been there because for them it technically was
Maybe it is not talked about much but from an insider's perspective I do think a persecution-complex is, to a degree, built into Christianity.
I admit I have no real studies or anything to back this up with except anecdotal evidence, though.
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