I still can't bring myself to understand how people can support the 'standard' American approach to healthcare.
"we don't have enough money" even though we do and we spend it all on the military industrial complex
"the countries that have it are smaller" even though our economy is that much bigger
"Waiting lines" Even though that's a myth and we get them too
"socialism" eat dick
I call it the curse of the Cold War status quo. Forced to have unmoving ideologies and politics since the start of the Cold War. I fear the US is politically overengineered.
please do run a campaign on the biggest glaring deficiency with modern conservatism. Make people be confronted with the GOP's 10 year record of trying to kill people
But that's communism! The wealthy should have the right to trample on the poor! How can I enjoy my Hard Earned Cash Passed Down From My Rich Family™ if there isn't a sufficiently wide wealth gap that keeps those filthy people who don't have money far away from me and my American Way?
Jesus wouldn't approve!
because its the american way and people are massively adverse to change in this country, especially the generation that was brought up with the boogieman of socialism hanging over their heads. Its exhausting that everything we do in this country has to conform to capitalism, that anything that doesn't utilize the mystical free markets is inherently wasteful, even though the whole notion of free markets and their efficiency is a crock of shit especially with modern manufacturing and fuck-the-consumer business practices.
Because "why should I pay for someone else to look themselves by eating McDonald's everyday?"
Conservatives view insurance as the more responsible option because you can choose to have insurance or not, therefore you're a responsible enough to know nothing can go wrong and save a few bucks.
The fucked thing about health insurance is that you literally can't not go to the hospital
its either go, or die, in many cases
"Do you visit the hospital often, Do you visit the hospital often, Do you visit the hospital often, Do you visit the hospital often, Do you visit the hospital often" was a 100% real counter-argument someone once made to my point that insurance and hospitals are overpriced and marked up massively
there's also that ridiculous notion that people can somehow choose the level of coverage they see fit, and that one-size-fits-all is inherently bad, which makes no sense in healthcare because, ya... people can't predict what they will need, and a government plan that covers everything is actually the better option
Even a well regulated capitalist healthcare system is exclusionary and not ideal. Can you really justify a system that denies people access to (quality of) life-saving healthcare on the grounds that they are less financially privileged? Unless treatments are heavily subsidized severe conditions will not be affordable, and will saddle the poor with inescapable debt. Loss of generational wealth contributes to rigidity of class structure that inherently leads to conflict.
Many aspects of capitalism are simply indefensible ethically.
I don't get why people use this as an argument. Isn't this why you just go on private insurance if it's that much of a concern for you, or is it a necessity to completely abolish one for the other over there? Public for people who can't afford private, private for those who can thus taking burden off the public
system (have incentives to encourage this). I mean at least that's how it works here.
the problem with that is that it still basically excludes anyone who can afford private insurance from having to pull their weight with the public system, making it more expensive for those that can't afford it and it also means that there's less incentive to fix the other broken shit in our healthcare system
because poor people can't have nice things.
Obamacare is the "well regulated capitalist healthcare system". It was literally dreamed up by The Heritage Foundation as a conservative healthcare alternative to the socialist single-payer system. It was proposed by Republicans several times throughout the 90's and adopted by Republican Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in the early 2000's, for which he was praised by many conservatives for his universal healthcare plan that did not involve socialized medicine. Our politics have shifted so far to the right that Democrats now praise these ideas while Republicans scoff at them.
Obama broke the Republican Party, they swung hard right and abandoned centralist conservative positions for far-right positions. Their beloved "well regulated capitalist healthcare system" was enacted by Obama on a national level and they immediately disavowed the concept and decried the law as Socialism. As far as I can tell the current position on healthcare is "zero regulation, period" under the belief that the invisible hand of the free market will always offer an low-cost efficient solution to any problem.
Still broken on my end.
Huh, what are you on? Firefox updated yesterday. Maybe Firefox fixed it and not FP?
We don't even spend it all on the MIC. The vast majority of US healthcare expenditures go into the financial assistance programs that pay for people's insurance, and that's the one thing that costs more than the entire US defense budget, and that cost is getting bigger every year
And the vast majority of that comes from the fact that everyone in the entire United States is actively being screwed over by insurance companies. Private healthcare is a massive fuckin' scam, especially since there's no real public option. They can fuck people over to extract the maximum capital gains, so they do
The whole military spending thing is a red herring. There's definitely a conversation needs had about US military spending and how terrifyingly cozy weapons manufacturers are with the government, but it's a separate conversation
The primary purpose of 'how will we pay for it' and 'who will pay for it' is to draw attention away from much more important questions like 'Why is this so ludicrously expensive'
And it's obvious why. There are billions of dollars of capital gains at stake. The entire US private healthcare system is set up to generate profit in as many nickel and diming ways as humanly possible. It's a minefield of what can only be called scams. Misdirections, obfuscations, hidden costs, under the table partnerships, insane price fixing schemes(Saline can cost upwards of two hundred bucks!)
It is not a care system. It is the monetization of human misery, and the capitalists don't want their gravy boat scuttled
You're right, after updating it's working now. That's actually really nice.
My favourite ever description of American trash capitalism is by paraphrasing something Three Arrows said
"It sometimes seems to Americans that not allowing an employer to personally murder their employees is communism"
or something along those lines.
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