Giving up before your ahead
more like giving up before you take even a step
It's almost like 2024 was a completely unrealistic idea to begin with and the President doesn't understand that it's actually rocket science. If he wanted someone to land on the moon in 2024, maybe he should've directed Congress to dump shittons of money into NASA's budget starting in 2017 instead of trying to keep the budget roughly static and even reducing it.
Though, to give the President credit, he did offer to give NASA unlimited funding if they managed to land men on Mars by 2020. Because he still doesn't understand that it's actual rocket science.
Trump just wants to have the moon landing under his name which is why he rushed to have it by 2024, the last year of his presidency if he was to win in 2020.
we aren't even launching the SLS before 2024 at this rate, all the boeing and northrop executives surrounding him can say they can do it but we can't
If they try to make that deadline people will die
Them rocket scientists with their fancy dee-plo-mahs are probably coastal elite libtards anyways, so no loss 🤷♂️
Appoint me!
We could if we wanted to. We've done it before.
Not even close to being comparable. The space race was a matter of national security, and had a budget to match. They also didn't give two fucks about safety or testing. Engineering then is not the same as engineering now. We're much more careful now and do a lot more testing, and we're less inclined to rush R&D. No, we can't do it again, not without human lives and billions of dollars as the cost.
Putting the dead in deadline.
The problem was never the amount of testing and safety. The problem has always been congressional. Congress won't feed NASA any money, Congress won't greenlight the right programs(while greenlighting moneysinks for their buddies), Congress won't leave the rocket science to the rocket scientists.
Give NASA just one percent of the defense budget, keep Congress the FUCK away, and we could walk on the moon again in ten years no problem. If all else failed *we still have the plans for the Saturn V in the archives...*
This is the plan
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Photo1-Copy-2.jpg
They could do it if they had proper and full funding from the start of Trump's presidency.
SLS has some new untested technologies that have been causing a lot of the delays. The carbon wrap tanks are massive and any imperfections ruin the whole thing.
on an opinion side of things, its a terribly flawed design from the get go but we've already frozen the design
The problem has always been the 535 utter fucktards on Capitol Hill. The problems inherent in building another Saturn V would be near trivial to solve for the rocket scientists. It's what they do. We figured it out once with slide rules and mental math, we could do it again with all the modern aids that Von Braun's team could never have dreamed of.
Those 535 utter fucktards have been why NASA has stagnated for longer than we've been alive, why NASA's last great achievement was Hubble, why we've never left LEO since the last Apollo mission. It's never been a matter of the science of it, it's never been a case of 'oh we can't build that', it's always been a case of 'Congress won't let us/fund it'.
How desperate can he look
Probably more realistic to use Falcon Heavy than build a new Saturn V.
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