• Turtle Cunt will fill a Supreme Court vacancy if a justice dies in 2020
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/28/politics/mitch-mcconnell-supreme-court-2020/index.html (CNN) Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday if a Supreme Court vacancy occurs during next year's presidential election, he would work to confirm a nominee appointed by President Donald Trump. That's a move that is in sharp contrast to his decision to block President Barack Obama's nominee to the high court following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia in February 2016. At the time, he cited the right of the voters in the presidential election to decide whether a Democrat or a Republican would fill that opening, a move that infuriated Democrats. Speaking at a Paducah Chamber of Commerce luncheon in Kentucky, McConnell was asked by an attendee, "Should a Supreme Court justice die next year, what will your position be on filling that spot?" The leader took a long sip of what appeared to be iced tea before announcing with a smile, "Oh, we'd fill it," triggering loud laughter from the audience. McConnell hinted at this position during an October appearance on Fox News Sunday when host Chris Wallace pressed the senator on whether he would fill a vacancy should one occur in 2020. "We'll see whether there's a vacancy in 2020," McConnell replied without directly answering what he would do.
I doubt anybody could be surprised at this.
This is like the 9th blatantly obvious example of hypocrisy demonstrated by Conservatives this week, why the fuck are they not getting called out?? I'm not fishing for a defeatist answer, I really, actually want to see them squirm and hear any dumbass mental gymnastics they can shit out on the spot
Their base doesn't care about anything except winning
They ought to regulate their decisions by the fundamental laws, rather than by those which are not fundamental." while not a law, governments function along much the same lines, parties should not rule by fiat and exception simply because its their turn, Mitch seems dead certain that the scotus will not be affected by his deliberate packing and arbitrary means to obtain his bench of judges. If they pushed a seat filled than there's no reason not to change the makeup of the court as in the minds of everyone on the wrong side of mitch, the court is a political entity
Block a democratic-picked nominee in an election year? Go on to fill a spot with a republican pick in an election year, say you'll do it again, and laugh menacingly. Someone investigates to make sure you follow the law? "i need two more years how dare you do this to me" Republicans, everyone. Slimy hypocritical cunts. The sooner we can get Trump and his cronies out of office and into a cell, the better. and if there's nothing on turtle, I hope he gets a particularly painful cancer. To match what he already is.
Thomas will never retire so Alito can be the only possibility
The Turtle, a hypocrite? Who'd have guessed?
1789 Must Commence Again.
We SHould fiNd cOMmOn grOuND AnD seeK a BIPArtIsAn SOLuTioN I wish that whoever (hopefully) replaces Trump come 2020 goes in fueled on pure spite knowing that the right did and will do nothing to reciprocate the feelings of making bipartisan solutions people like Obama and Pelosi offered. Hopefully people like turtle cunt and cheeto cunt die knowing that their legacy was crushed by people who have the actual interest of greater America in mind.
I don't really think there's anything wrong with the Constitution on the whole. It's generally an excellent document. The problems with the SC are more to do with partisanship, etc. I do think it's worth changing how the SC works going into the future though.
If a Supreme Court justice does retire or pass away next year, the vacancy absolutely should be filled as soon as possible. What McConnell did in 2016 was certainly despicable; there’s no two ways about it. But it would be very dangerous if it set the precedent that Supreme Court appointments should be decided by elections. Doesn’t matter if the Democrats or Republicans win the election; it undermines the separation of powers. And the US Supreme Court is already too politicised.
I hope it gets to the point where Fox News is well, incinerated, really, but that's not going to happen a 24/7 stream of "HOW DARE THESE RADICAL DEMOCRATS NOT COMPROMISE WITH THE REPUBLICANS". God, they already yell it when someone doesn't compromise on LGBT rights or imprisoning children or fucking up the environment. Now that I think about it, you can bet you ass they'll try to get an investigation going on something - anything - I mean literally ANYTHING IN THE WORLD and they will try to get a Mueller size investigation into it. Then cry how unfair it all is when it sizzles out a dozen times over. Bernie's wife takes some money for her college? impeach Doesn't personally fly to the middle east to stop a terrorist attack? benghazi, impeach Is friends with someone who owns a pizza shop? impeach Republicans will know it's some "rather russian than democrat" "I'd rather be wrong and conservative than listen to facts and be a socialist" shit where they value their team over anything else. Braindead morons who call themselves centrists but are actually just apolitical will say "well it is weird how the democrats had a more successful investigation" "the democrats aren't playing with the republicans calls for installing a theocracy, they're just as mean and both at fault for this deadlock" "I don't think you'll win any political friends by being mean to the other side".
Can we please stop calling Mitch McConnell a turtle? Turtles are pretty great and McConnell is the opposite of pretty great.
He already broke with precedent and didn't do his job just because he disagreed with Obama. McConnell doesn't give a fuck, don't pretend he does.
Yeah, hi. Don't know if you noticed but the Republicans, and Mitch McConnell, already kinda set that precedent. You know. When they did exactly that during the last year of Obama's second term and then proceeded to ram through a conservative justice the first moment they could when a Republican got into office. Why are you waiting until now to say we shouldn't set the precedent? By doing so now you're literally only giving them more chances to undermine the very foundations of this country. Unless you'd like to just see the US completely tank (which will have plenty of ramifications for our allies) then you should absolutely not be supporting this.
The Democrats have tried time and time again to take the high road and it always backfires. It's time to fight fire with fire instead of drenching ourselves in lighter fluid and asking the Republicans to please not light a match.
people are calling him turtle cunt, i really don't want to know what you think of turtle cunts
I will say one thing, Mitch McConnell is proof that the Men In Black exist.
I read a really interesting take on the Turtle. Once more for the road - McConnell is nothing more than a loathsome mercenary hired by corporate and foreign powers to achieve their ends at the cost of the American people, to shovel our tax dollars and our sovereign power into their hands, for the personal and petty profit of the soldiers in his employ - Republican politicians. He's not an evil mastermind, he's not the grand architect or the wizard behind the curtain. He serves at the pleasure of Senate Republicans; if they didn't want him there, they would be rid of him in a heartbeat. The truth is, whatever they say, whatever they do, they like him there. He soaks up the anger and outrage and abuse. They can pretend to be "good guys" - like that spineless, worthless shit Mitt Romney - while wholeheartedly endorsing the entire corrupt campaign behind the scenes. Mitch McConnell is despised by everyone, even his own party. Majority Leader isn't a desirable position. Look at Nancy Pelosi - she immediately became the sole target of public ire for decisions like not impeaching Trump, despite the fact that she's almost certainly carrying out the wishes of the consensus of thousands of Democrat officials and politicians. This isn't her plan, just like this is not Mitch's plan. Mitch McConnell is serving the designs and plans of a few massive corporations and other huge donors. That's it. The religious zealots, the industrial titans and long-time Republican donors - he passes bills like the 2018 Tax Theft bill that pleases them and delivers profits to them, while safeguarding Republican power. I say this because articles like this blaming him for the entire debacle help him fulfill exactly his purpose: establish a single focal point of blame without addressing the systemic issues and network of corrupt and criminal actors that actually pull the strings. "Mitch McConnell is Really Destroying America" as a headline (which is all that most people read anyway) makes the natural implication that removing Mitch McConnell fixes the problem. But there's always another Mitch McConnell. Articles like this give him far too much credit and cement a perception that without him, the whole machine falls apart. But this is factually bankrupt. The system, the real agent of America's destruction, is made up of thousands of Republican megadonors donors like the Mercers and Sheldon Addleson, corporate conglomerates like the Oil industry and Telecomm, foreign powers like Putin's Russia and Mr. Bonesaw's Saudi Arabia, and religious organizations like the Mormon Church. They funnel billions of dollars and precise, exact instructions into the Republican party, which is nothing more than a mercenary force to carry out the donors wishes. The donors pay money, the Republicans fight the war. McConnell is just another in a long line of generals. There are endless candidates. Ted Cruz could be a McConnell. So could Marco Rubio or Mitt Romney. Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader are not enviable positions. Look at Paul Ryan. They don't really wield power. It isn't like a President, who is publicly elected. They're appointed by the party, and they're just the hate sponges for the party, the ones who will take all the blame while more "likable" candidates play bridgemaker in hopes of vying for President. It doesn't matter who serves in that capacity. Dark money is the rot, because it stacks the government with people acting directly against the public interest. All of the emotion, the partisan bickering, the sentiment and loathing, that's all a smokescreen. These people, Republicans, they are not politicians. Not in the slightest. The only thing they have in common with politicians is many of them are lawyers and they wear suits. They don't govern. The Republican party has done literally nothing even remotely resembling governance in a long time. When was the last time they passed a bill meant to improve some part of public or private life for the average American citizen? Do not delude yourselves. This is not about Trump, not about McConnell, not even about the Republican party. Eliminate one mercenary group, and another takes its place. The Democrats are on the side of the angels currently, but only by default, only because Republicans have devolved so far into criminality and corruption (mostly out of desperation) that it would be impossible not to be the good guys in comparison. If we do not do something about dark money in politics, any party, no matter how conservative or liberal, can easily be infiltrated and eventually overrun with people acting in the interest of dark money over public interest. If McConnell were following his own comprehensive grand plan, you wouldn't see this ridiculous flip-flopping of stances and interests nearly overnight. That's why Republicans are such demonstrable and laughable hypocrites. Their hypocrisy is almost absurdist - their actions frequently contradict their words because they have no real guiding ideology. They're just working for the highest bidder. Much like a mercenary might fight for one side on one day, and then the opposing side the next day, Republicans do whatever they're told by their masters, while doing preposterous verbal gymnastics on TV. Just look at what we've witnessed in a short period of time: Republicans outspoken against Russia pre-2016; immediately turn into vocal and ardent Russia supporters (because Russia started paying them and helping them win). Republicans outspoken against and opposed to executive power pre-2106; immediately and vocally support the extreme tryannical overreach of Donald Trump (because he's a Republican). Conservative think-tank The Heritage Foundation creates outline of Affordable Care Act & Republican Mitt Romney puts it into place as governor of Massachusetts - immediately and vocally condemn it as soon as Obama makes it the foundation of his healthcare policy Republicans bemoan and condemn the increase of the federal deficit - until Trump creates one of the largest federal deficits in recent memory to give tax dollars to corporations. Then they vocally and proudly support it. Republicans stoke xenophobia and drone on and on and one about the threat of "Radical Islam" - until Trump wants to sell billions of dollars of weaponry to Saudi Arabia, the most powerful, hardcore "islamic extremists" in the Middle East. Then, Saudi Arabia is a wonderful beacon of freedom (because they're paying them). This is why they wouldn't be successful without a propaganda wing like Fox News. All politicians do a form of doublespeak, but there is nothing comparable to the hypocrisy of modern-day Republicans. Nothing. No 20th century absurdist novelist could ever dream up these clowns. They need to cut off their voters from reality and isolate them in a sterile alternate universe where they bury certain hypocrisies or explain them away and build a narrative utterly incomparable to the real world, because whatever you want to say about Republican voters, they have all the same mental capacities as your average Joe. They could easily see how badly they, personally, are being fucked over by the very people they choose to represent them - if they weren't living in the alternate universe that is Conservative Media. All this to say that none of this is part of McConnell's grand design. Nor Trump's, nor even the entire Republican party. There's no teleology to any of this, no method to the madness, no overarching evil scheme. That's the fiction junkies in us, always envisioning the evil wizard plotting brilliant and infinitely complex schemes to redesign the world. Poll Republican voters about what they think they're getting - the world they think their votes are buying - and you'll get a hundred different answers and illustrations of a hundred different worlds, none of which remotely resemble what Republicans are actually building. The world Republicans are building is nothing more than a grotesque collage of the wants and needs of some of the richest and most morally and ethically bankrupt people and organizations on the planet, disparate in scope but almost all entirely to the detriment of the American people, because the only thing Republicans can trade for their donors' cash is federal tax dollars and the power and sovereignty of the American citizens they represent. It is ever-shifting, ever-changing, but always shitty. Either a perpetual war or economic cycles of boom-and-bust or rampant xenophobia - it doesn't matter. Republicans are a black box that donors put a handful of small bills into and get backtrillions of our tax dollars and untold powers over public land or contractual rights or legal rights. This is why the actions of Republicans need to be firmly divorced from the personalities of single individuals like Trump and McConnell and also from the veil of "conservatism" or political ideology in general. They don't care. They're mercenaries. Start acting like it. Stop talking and yelling to them and start yelling over them, to their masters, because these are the people and organizations destroying America, and we need to identify them, call them out, and recognize Republicans for the flunkies they are. EDIT: Everything begins and ends with the money. To begin with Citizens United must be overturned, but we need to keep going. Money and all forms of perverse incentives need to be dealt with, or we will always be governed by the mercenary armies of despots and multinational conglomerates. I don't care which party you vote for, truly I don't. The only thing that matters is to vote for people comitted to removing dark money from politics and most importantly watching over them with intense scrutiny every single day they're in office to make sure they follow up on that promise.
american democracy has been subverted again but this time it has been done in a very brazen and unsophisticated fashion
I thought the Justices were supposed to be impartial?
Clarence Thomas was ranting about abortion and eugenics a few days ago.
Uuuuh... - Electoral college system that doesn't even end up doing the one thing it's supposed to exist for nowadays, all the while repeatedly putting losers of presidential election into office and disenfranchising a huge chunk of voters. - Supreme court life appointment system that doesn't get rid of partisanship at all despite supposedly being built that way for this very reason. Ends up being a stupid high-stake game of Russian roulette where a single administration can appoint 3 justices in a single term where most other admins don't appoint a single one, potentially leading to decades of a stacked court, rather than an equitable system where every administration gets a say and terms are finite and limited. - Separation of powers and "checks and balances" system that ultimately ends up doing little to nothing to limit executive power. Granted, we can't expect those who wrote it to have our hindsight and predict those mistakes would have a significant impact 200 years from then, but I wouldn't call the US constitution an "excellent" documen by any stretch of the word.
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