Denmark election: Social Democrats win, entire right wing on suicide watch - Polidicks

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48535939 The polls are in by now but not in any English sources, so I'll give a quick rundown based on this results chart of mandates (total 179, of which 4 are north-atlantic and not part of the chart): https://i.imgur.com/x54m0s4.png Soc. = Social Democrats - centre-left party, by all chances the new government leaders. Have adopted some centre-right-leaning immigration policies, but are generally okay dudes Venst. = Venstre - Centre-right liberal party, the old government party that has been in complete disarray for this election, since they've lost supporting parties as you'll see further down. DF = Danish People's Party, right-wing social-conservative party, the traditional 'racist' party here in Denmark. They've been beat the fuck up, losing almost two thirds of their influence. Rad. = Radical Left, which confusingly is more of an 'enlightened centrist' party with a social-liberal ideology, and strong pro-EU and pro-immigration values. Doubled their influence. SF = Socialist People's Party, the moderate socialists. Have doubled influence, despite some bad shitstorms following one member's stupid antics after the EU elections two weeks ago. Enhl. = The Unity List, Marxist-lite party. Hardline socialists, with very strong green values to boot. They've lost a little influence, but still way up from their 'usual' 6ish mandates. Kons. = Conservatives. Social-conservative party, who aren't really that conservative at all. They're pretty much just pro-police-funding and nothing else noteworthy. Not anti-LGBT or particularly racist, despite being conservative. They've been taken off suicide watch by this election, also doubling their mandate-count. Alt = The Alternative, the green party of vegans and tree-huggers. Have some good environmental policies, but ruined by a complete lack of grounding, coherency and issues on anything that isn't environmental. They've gotten beat up over their lack of organization and the party leader requesting dick pics of everyone. Nye B. = Neoliberals, they're pretty much free-market fuck-muslims and that's about it. Climate-change-denialists. Lib.Al = Liberal Alliance, the non-racist neoliberal party. Free markets, party literally owned by bankers. Gotten absolutely fucking murdered this election, holy fuck. S. Kurs = Literally named Hard line. Neofacist anti-islamic party with other such gems of policy as '100% conscription for unemployed' and 'Climate change is real but we ignore it because it makes us unhappy to think about'. Didn't get in, to everyone's great relief. The party leader is literally brain-damaged after a car crash, and spends all his time burning Q'rans in ghettos. Krist. = Christian party. Almost got in because their new party-leader is a qt3.14, but ended up not getting in after all. Anti-abortion, anti-LGBT socialists. Riskær = Party named after party leader Klaus Riskær, who was a Venstre politician who got kicked out in disgrace and thrown in jail three times over embezzlement and fraud. Started his own party, which is literally a carbon copy of Venstre. Didn't get in. Overall, an absolutely excellent election for anyone not a fan of right-wing populism. The fascists didn't get in, the traditional racist party got cut by two thirds, and the neoliberals got fucked up real hard.

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Now, if we could just have that winning party in the US, we'd have a future worth looking forward to.

I personally find them a bit unambitious. They just recently revealed their climate change plan, and it's below Paris agreement levels still, despite a major part of Danish industry being directly involved in renewable energy and the country overall being tiny so it'd be super easy to reach the goals.

Should be noted that a super red coalition isn’t all that realistic - enhedslisten and radikale venstre would have to compromise with each other on an economic policy, which just looks pretty tough. Those two parties are definitely also going to have to give concessions on immigration policy if they want influence. While I don’t see a S-V government really happening, I could see a slim S government reaching across the aisle a lot be an option as well. The soc. dems. might claim they’re very different from Venstre, but tbh at this point it’s more about the respective parties’ natural supporting parties than much difference in policy. Definetely a big loss for the right wing, but let’s not forget that a product of most parties moving right on immigration policy (and granted, left on economic and climate policy). The right has sorta slain itself, so to speak, and the product is Nye Borgerlige and Stram Kurs, parties that are reaching further and further right with no real hope of influence.

Yeah S is going to try and make their government on their own, but I honestly doubt it. They have the support, but the demands are simply too steep from their backing parties. The SV is absolutely not happening, Løkke is done for and he's just throwing out ridiculous offers to seem like the bipartisan negotiator instead of the partisan cunt he really is. What I'm curious about is whether they go full socialist and make it SSF, or more centrist and go SR which would force them to slack on the immigration demands.

I think Løkke should just be happy that he can finally go back to being private Løkke

You gotta remember that S's majority is not based upon a particularly good result from themselves, but rather a fuckin' landslide in their supporters of R and SF. There's gonna be some real hard demands from both of those, and with a potential 91-majority without ever needing to pull on the potheads over in Å or the north-atlantics, I have my doubts they'll try to deal much with now-crippled DF or V. They'll consolidate around their own supporters.

hey thanks for the parties explanation, it can be kinda hard to figure out who is who. especialy when labels like "socdem" or "left" mean very different things in different countries

Rasmus Klump can gtfo haha

This is genuinely so therapeutic, especially how appallingly poorly the rright wing did. Like it seems the runner ups are basically neo-libs, so the most truly right-wing party that got any votes of note was the DF with a mere 16% lmao, with three left-wing parties trailing it closely, two being far-left. Beautiful.

DF got around 8% of the vote. Nye Borgerlige is even further on the right, and got 4%. No guarantees that you’d enjoy the social democrats immigration policies either. But yeah, it’s a good result.

The count isn't percentage, it's mandates. And while 16 might look bad, it's a net loss of 21, which is hilarious.

Ahh, I missed that. Bit of a blemish for sure, but it does explain their surprising victory(since I was under the impression that Denmark was rapidly going further right).

This was not a surprising victory, really. Surprising that DF did as badly as they did (and that Venstre did as well as they did), though.

Disappointed Nye Borgerlige got in, but at least Stram Kurs was kept out. It would've been fun, however, to watch Paludan get shut down every time he tried to speak in Folketinget and get told to keep a clean tone. :V

https://twitter.com/casmudde/status/1136403695338438656?s=21 Idk about you guys but to me this is proof that copying the right on immigration does not work, even in Denmark.

The social democrats aren’t the only party in there, babe. Venstre copied the right on immigration, too, and SF also changed their immigration policy to be quite a bit more strict. If you look at where the voters from DF went, there’s a pretty clear pattern (voters moved to social democrats and Venstre, and voters who disliked those parties’ moves moved to radikale venstre or to the leftist parties). Voters who wanted even stricter rules went to stram kurs and nye borgerlige, and thusly DF has been completely decimated. I know denmark is a small country, but please don’t get your analysis from a couple of tweets.

I'm legit baffled how Venstre had such a good election though. They're the party literally responsible for the insane cuts in our healthcare and educational departments, and they're doing fuckall to actually address immigration and the growing inequality.

And then there's their record on climate stuff which is just ugh

Cas Mudde is the leading academic on radical-right populism. He coined the definition of populism. He isn’t just some rando. And yeah, socdems gained votes by being nationalist welfare chauvinists but lost a lot of their actually progressive voters in the proces, meanwhile moving the general discussion even more to the radical-right. Just don’t do it. There’s no clear advantage to surrendering to nativist liberal-democracy-hating cunts.

Probably some of the voters from both Liberal Alliance and DF who aren't interested in supporting their parties but also not interested in supporting the left wing. It angers me slightly that Venstre gets such a good election despite a few scandals and (in my opinion) a less than stellar leadership.

No wonder that the anti-immigration parties got slaughtered when they have fragmented so rapidly. Also, the last election took place during the peak of the refugee crisis, which gave DF further ammunition. Sad to see the end of my man Gokke Jokke.

My godfather and I were cheering for LA to be thrown out, and we were so close, but alas... they managed to latch unto life just barely. But on the other hand, their chairman, Samuelsen, lost his regional seat, so he is out of Folketinget.

That doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong. If the centre-left is his only concern, the soc. dem. losing a tiny amount of voters would be relevant, but the soc. dems. are not the only left party in denmark, and it’s ignoring the fact that Venstre basically ran a campaign supporting a social democratic platform - when you convince the largest party on the right, Venstre, to run on a social democratic platform, and propose a S-V government, when the right wing populist party haemorrhages voters, and when the leftists parties still have a great election, does it really matter that your centre-left party loses 0.4% of its voters? What’s his measure for success here? On the other hand, one could argue that since, Denmark doesn’t have a first past the post system, and people can very freely vote for parties that embrace his vision more than the social democrats are - why aren’t those parties the largest in parliament? Could it be that his vision simply isn’t as popular as he thinks it would be?

I’m slightly confused by your post here. Cas is talking about the tactic of copying the radical-right views on immigration as a social democratic party. This strategy is much talked about in political science in Europe at the moment. This election and many others before prove that the research that has been done into this matter was right: it is not a very good strategy, not to mention the more obvious problem that it is harmful for the public discourse. The social democrats managed to only attract 10% of former DF voters while they lost more voters to pro-immigration parties. Social democrats have more to gain from having a progressive stance on immigration. https://twitter.com/denis_cohen/status/1136561818871242753?s=21

I mean you’re simply posting info that supports my stance - what would the social democrats gain from a more progressive stance? Voters from the left? Potentially losing more voters to the right? I’m confused as to why it’s so important that he social democrats gain votes specifically, when they actually need a coalition of parties behind them? You’re also ignoring the second part of the tweet - the social democrats lost 15% to the left, but they also gained about half that back from those parties. Net-wise, they gained more votes from DF alone than they lost to the other left parties, while the left block attracted more voters in total.

Looking closer at the results, a tiny part of me is just a little bit sad that Stram Kurs didn't beat LA. https://i.imgur.com/VngxcTo.png Because it would be funny.