• RNC chair says the D-Day anniversary should be about celebrating Trump/America
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/d-day-celebrate-trump-ronna-mcdaniel_n_5cf7f7d1e4b0e3e3df1427bd Apparently, the “D” in D-Day stands for “Donald Trump,” at least according to Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee. The GOP chair appeared on Fox Business on Wednesday to basically moan about the way the media has covered the president’s trip to Europe. https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1136282103593734144
No thanks, chief
The difference is, Americans were fighting fascism on D-Day, not watching a captive Senate obey the whims of a wanna-be-fascist administration that's supported by about 40% of the population because racism dogwhistling works.
I'd be willing to bet that everyone who stormed the beach on D-Day would absolutely love a chance to have a facist like Trump in their sights.
America yes, Trump no. What in tarnation... At least it's not Trump saying this for a change, which is nice I guess? He's going to tweet that the D in D-Day should stand for him, isn't he?
i'm much more worried when Trump's followers begin spouting ideas that are as dumb if not dumber than Trump's antics.
Heil Trump
I'm sure they would be taking this exact same stance with no changes whatsoever if Hillary Clinton was President instead. 🤔🤔🤔
America isn't the only country that participated on D-Day.
im glad my grand father ain't here to see this.
And once again the bones of the millions of Europeans who fell to the sword of the fascist machine are verbally tilled over to plant another proudly-waving stars 'n bars for everyone to salute.
Reminder that Trump lied about having a medical condition to avoid getting drafted to go to Vietnam.
Compare that to Eisenhower, who was leading the soldiers during D-Day and was willing to accept all responsibility if the invasion failed.
True leadership
Trump was involved in the US fighting fascism? I don't believe it.
Did you hear? Somebody threw a beer at Trump! But it was draft, so he dodged it.
Not everything must be US-centric.
a celebration of the allies
I think that's a rather optimistic and modernized viewpoint. It's not like America post-WWII was known as a bastion of ideas that would be considered progressive today. We idealize our role in WWII because it's probably the last war where we fought an aggressive and objectively terrible foe and were definitely right to get involved, but look how many old boomers and military types support Trump now. A lot or even perhaps most of the people who went to war against the Nazis probably held beliefs you and I would find disgusting and fascistic. Look at the Red Scare and McCarthyism, immediately after WWII.
She looks inbred. How surprising from a right winger.
You're not wrong actually. She exhibits many of the facial features of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/239718/4b4d0fe3-b740-4fd5-9dd5-b4e77de49ff1/image.png
Normally I’d say people always “look” bad whenever they’re being associated with something negative but in this case, holy shit you’re right lmao.
I don't like much this kind of celebrations since it almost always ignores the actions of the Soviet Union ( by the time the landings happened, the Soviets already turned 180º the route of the war with Stalingrad and the battle of Kursk, so while helpful it was by no means "the turning point on the war" ), but this is beyond idiocy. Either you people remove Trump now, or the USA goes full fascist for the next round.
Even though the Soviets played a massive role in WW2 for the benefit of the allies, they fought on the allies side purely because Germany forced them to. Until Germany invaded them, they essentially invaded Poland WITH Germany, and had a pact of non-aggression, and agreed on who gets what with 5 different countries. Not to mention Stalin was arguably much worse than Hitler, and certainly killed many more people. This is why they don't really get the credit that they maybe should
That and Stalin turning on us immediately at the end of of World War 2 pretty much meant that westerners didn't care to give them credit for the heavy lifting.
Maybe it's insensitive to say today of all days, but in the last year or so after reading up on Stalingrad some, it's struck me as pretty absurd how much we in the west congratulate ourselves for D-Day and talk about the terrible cost. 4.4k allies died in the Normandy landings, while 3k Russians were dying per day on average in the battle of Stalingrad alone. So our harrowing turning point was basically equivalent to a "pretty bad day" or an average 2 days in a battle that went on for 5 months.
There's also the idea of 'Propaganda by Hollywood'; war films and portrayal of war heroes typically do so in the favour of westerners, predominately the US above everyone else. I'll use a UK example: take Churchill, a massive racist that by all accounts (outside of war, that is) was a horrible person and the epitome of tea-shipping classist toffish English gentleman, but because of the war, he's lamented as an inspiring British figure. If Churchill existed as a politician in 2019, he'd be incredibly unpopular. But if all portrayals focus on his contribution to the war, his image is cemented as one of positiveness. Don't focus on his comments about India & Gandhi, shush, we can't mention those because they would shatter the illusion of a wonderful man. It's all about narratives commandeered by certain biases; imperialists in the UK still argue that WW2 wasn't the final nail in the coffin of the British Empire, and that in fact we lost our territories because we wanted to , and we still praise Churchill whilst bashing Chamberlain, even though a couple of historians have come out and said that Chamberlain's delay of war through appeasement may have ultimately been to our benefit because charging headfirst into war whilst unprepared would have been disastrous. Media shows the US as the star-spangled superhero of the day, with the Brits occasionally gaining praise for the RAF, whereas the French are portrayed as surrendering when the going gets tough & that the Soviets only held back the Germans because "it was cold" (people forget the total amount of sacrifices by Soviet soldiers too). Don't have high hopes that the colonies will ever be 'mainstream'-ly portrayed for their undeniable contribution to the war effort, either; that story wouldn't sell well.
Yeah, let's celebrate the guy who had literally nothing to do with it, that checks out. Why lead a competent government that does good by their people when you can just take credit for someone else's? I bet she also thinks black people should be grateful to Republicans because they abolished slavery.
4 of every 5 German Casualties were on the Eastern Front, while Allied support was vital to the war effort (sending food and trucks, opening new fronts), the bulk of WW2 was fought and won in the East. Russian culture is extremely proud and stubborn, and it is this pride and stubbornness that allowed Russia to turn the tide in a war that would have ended in swift surrender by most other countries.
Yes, let's celebrate the day countless servicemen died fighting fascism by praising a draft-dodging veteran-insulting wannabe fascist.
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