NordVPN gets sued by Torguard over alleged malpractices - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.techradar.com/news/nordvpn-gets-sued-by-torguard-over-alleged-malpractices Torguard has filed a complaint against rival VPN provider NordVPN in the Middle District of Florida on Friday 24th. The papers filed allege that NordVPN has been guilty of a number of extremely serious malpractices. These allegations include a successful Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) on Black Friday, wrongfully obtaining and using TorGuard’s confidential and trade secret business information to blackmail the company and coercing a third party into silence. NordVPN denies these claims, but it's all looking kinda sketchy. You can read the court documents here: https://torguard.net/downloads/docs/Dkt.%206%20Amended%20Complaint.pdf

NordVPN kinda sucks too. It's slow as hell and expensive.

PIA for life, yo

I can't believe that NordVPN sponsored Liverpool Football Club, they seem to have a bottomless pit of money.

Mullvad is your bro

I mistrust nordvpn If only for the fact that so many fucking YouTubers shill for it That is a very bad sign

Last I checked Sweden falls under 14 eyes, I'd rather stick far away from anything that's within that realm

Personally love NordVPN, been the better option out of the various I've tried and the discount made it worth it imo

PIA?

I signed up back when only a few people shilled it, but once I saw a video from Louis Rossmann where he mentioned he got a sponsership offer from them but only in the form of money instead of a trail he could try out himself to see if it's worth advertising, it put a sour taste in my mouth. I got the 3 year plan so I'm just looking at other VPNs in the meant time

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/2018-holiday-deal It's pretty fucking good, I've been using it for some good amount of time.

Oh shit that's pretty good, thanks!

I use NordVPN, it was pretty cheap for 3 years honestly. I havne't had any speed problems or other issues with them. Why do they suck again?

I've used Nord for the past 2-3 years, never had issues with them. Plus it's pretty cheap at $2-3 a month.

Seems like some companies sponsor thousands of YouTubers, 2 months go by and all those channels begin shilling for a competitor of them, and later another competitor.

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idk why having marketing is necessarily a bad sign

Marketing isn't quite the bad thing, so much as the things youtubers have marketed in the past have proven to be really scummy Candid for example was a giant scam and they shilled hard for that, turned out to teach an algorithm about automatically blocking unwanted posts. Betterhelp was selling overpriced therapy over the internet that actually turned out to be a complete scam, and didn't vet peoples history at all, as well as possibly selling data. Marketing is good, but youtubers are untrustworthy when you actually hand them a free check. They will sell their customers out to anyone.

This wasn't entirely true then, and it's really not true now. What a lot of people "reported" on regarding betterhelp were misunderstandings and the service has rectified those things. But once you have bad press, you literally have bad press forever so i don't know why I'm even trying to illuminate the situation.

I think that depends on the type of YouTubers they target, NordVPN seems to be in the same group as the Audible/Squarespace/Lynda/Blue Apron type which is generally the non-scummy youtubers

Honestly I seen far more PIA ads than Nord. I currently have 3 yr plan with Nord. And in the past used PIA.

PIA is based in the US. That automatically rules them out in my book.

Most of the lads I know here use Tunnel Bear and it seems to be really good

Literally the only channel I know of to shill for PIA is Linus Tech Tips. Whereas it seems everyone and their cardboard-box-robot shills for NordVPN.

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Thanks for the suggestion. Decided to sign up! 7 days to test this bad boy out- hopefully, it's good! However, PIA "no-logging" claims have been tested in court- with FBI not being able to get any valuable information. Just wondering how the five eyes plays into this knowing the company doesn't log anything (unless they could suddenly be forced to log suspecting IPs?). Anyway, I'm mostly going to use the VPN for Hulu and American Netflix... Maybe even American Prime?! Choices are endless for my maple syrup loving ass

Tbh I've been using PIA for just normal viewing at this point, I honestly don't feel a slowdown. On top of this for private shit I use iridium.

NordVPN works for my uses, and that 3 year deal I got it for made it like less than a few dollars a month so.

Because, as I understand it, they can be issued a gag order and then force the provider to start spying on their users and the provider wouldn't be able to tell you. Some VPN providers employ a warrant canary for this reason. edit: Here's a bunch of reasons: NSA uses mirrors to intercept and store all data traveling to and from the US mainland from fiber optic cables. US government can issue gag orders to VPN/ISP/WEBSITES to not to release their ongoing "investigation" so companies aren't allowed to share US gov. requests for certain period of time. They can be forced to keep logs and decrypt your data and they can't inform you about it. US government regularly shares intel/data with other 14 eyes countries, especially with 5 eyes countries so if you reside in one of those country and use US based VPN, your country/government will know about it if they want to. (you can be tracked through your payment system, social media, website logins you do on your VPN or see #1 and 2.) US has internet unfriendly DMCA and copyright laws, you can be prosecuted under it or your VPN providers can be forced into giving up your data. This is the most important part: All US based sites and web services are required by law to keep logs for minimum of 3 months. https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/7x07am/if_a_vpn_doesnt_keep_logs_why_does_it_matter_if/du4hkkc/

I was actually looking through the PIA site and their FAQ page, and it all seems sound and the prices seem decent for what they are accomplishing. One thing is bothering me though when they wanted to show how 'exposed' I was. My city location is wrong. Like a 30 minute drive wrong. Either that's the server location or just wanted to show a general area something is missing .