• Texas teacher fired over comments made on Twitter about illegal immigrants
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/05/texas-teacher-fired-donald-trump-remove-illegals/1349858001/ Clark admitted that the tweets were hers, but said she thought she was sending a private message to the president, according to documents obtained by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
How is it illegal to say that people who are there illegally shouldn't be there illegally??
Was she also arrested?
“I really do need a contact here in FW who should be actively investigating & removing illegals that are in the public school system” publicly posting about how your students should be deported is generally not condusive to a safe learning environment
She did not say anything illegal, what she said put her in hot water with the school board who voted to fire her. There is a huge difference between saying "Hey, illegal immigration is a issue and we need to see x,y,z happen" and what she actually said which was "Mr. President, Fort Worth Independent School District is loaded with illegal students from Mexico. Carter-Riverside High School has been taken over by them. Drug dealers are on our campus and nothing was done to them when the drug dogs found the evidence,” Clark tweeted on May 17 from her now-deleted Twitter account, @Rebecca1939, The Washington Post reported. “Anything you can do to remove the illegals from Fort Worth would be greatly appreciated,” she wrote in another tweet. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/230446/f0befb1e-10ad-438d-a0b2-ede89ff2555f/image.png She is an idiot - play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Looking at her history she clearly also has just a huge problem with Mexicans or brown people in general. Who asks a student going to the bathroom for papers and whether they are here legally or not?
First amendment doesn't protect you from the social consequences of you being a racist shit. If you're racist and you're fired, it's your fault.
Exactly, and in this case there was ample publicly available evidence so people can't really claim it's a mob rule overreaction. Considering the fact she admitted to actually acting on her racist views, instead of expressing them outside her duty of care this is a clear open and shut case.
At a glance I thought this might've been a step too far but seeing as this actively involves students then by all means they made they right call to fire her. Targeted comments about illegal students (who are probably more integrated into the US than Mexico) indicate an attitude cannot be allowed in a teacher.
Normally I'm 100% against employers looking over people's twitter feeds...and still think its a gross invasion of privacy...but in this case it worked out for the best. Racist shithead is out of the school system. Good riddance.
Anything you post publicly on Twitter for 3 billion people to read should not be considered private in any way. You wouldn't be protected from an employer if you went onto TV and said some dumb shit on camera, and claiming "privacy" is not going to fly.
Its an invasion of privacy in that its your employer snooping through your personal life. Its no different than if they saw you flip off a shithead in traffic while you were on your weekend and fired you for that. What people do off the clock should be kept 100% seperate from work. In this case they didnt need her tweets anyway, she was a racist bitch on the clock too.
An employee of the company I work for was seen leaving her job, getting into her car, and texting while driving. She has since been fired for this. She worked as an insurance broker, selling auto insurance. She literally broke the law, that she's paid to inform people about. There are plenty of situations where how you act in the real world will affect your job. Another example: We had an employee who openly stated on his Facebook "Cyclists should be run over". He was fired within 24 hours of a customer emailing my company to tell us "hey, you've hired a psychopath".
It's more like if they saw you say a bunch of racist shit about one of your coworkers in a public area with lots of people, and said coworker was a person who was vulnerable to you and who you had a position of power over, and fired you for it
Someone with prejudice for her students is ill equipped for teaching them
It's not if it's in public.
Twitter isn't private.
I will be fired if I engage in any partisan political activity. Not sure what world you live in, but the general public does not distinguish between work and play when you are being a racist bitch. They will attribute your behavior to your employer either through their consent, indifference, or ignorance. There is (and should be) no law that says employers cannot make employment decisions based on your behavior while off duty.
Let's differentiate two things here, because you're blurring the line between them. If your employer demanded you provide your social media identiies and the employer actively monitors your social media postings, I think you have at least an argument to make about invasion of privacy. If you say dumb shit in a public feed and someone informs your employer about the dumb shit you said, and your employer follows up on the report and discovers that yes indeed you did MAGApost about illegals a bunch of times, welcome to real life motherfucker, actions have consequences. Privacy does not protect you from dumb shit you did in public, because you yourself decided to share private thoughts with the public Internet. Where does this logic even go? Sorry, you can't fire me for the sign in my front yard that says "Nigger Lynching Depot", I made it outside of work hours so it's private. Sorry, you can't fire me because I run a website promoting transphobia and transbashing, it's something I do outside of company time! Sorry, you can't fire me for murdering Mexicans on my offtime, that's my private time. lmao what, did you think about this argument for five seconds before you posted? I'm typically opposed to the ease at which American citizens can be fired with little to no compensation from their jobs, but firing someone because they publicly proved themselves to be a shitty human being unworthy of the responsibilities placed upon them is a-ok with me.
No it is not. If you post something on a public forum and leave it for the world to see you have no expectation of privacy. What people post and do off the clock can come back and reflect poorly on company, hince why you don't post stupid shit that could harm your employment. There is a huge difference in me posting on twitter with a bio that says teachers at middle school ISD saying "This school is filled with HISPANIC murders and gangbangers, fuck this place" and me giving some dude the bird. One post is archived as evidence and the other is literally hearsay. I'm not going to get fired for flipping the bird and the person i flipped off isn't going to find out where I am employed based on that interaction. Hate speech isn't protected lmao. Let's not act like it is worth protecting because it isn't.
A student told district officials that on May 17, Clark said, "Mexicans should not enter our country illegally," and that when a student asked to go to the bathroom, she allegedly responded, "Show me your papers that are saying you are legal." Man what a bitch
As much as it shouldn't be protected, it is. Hate speech is protected under US free speech laws. Publicly requesting that the president deport your students is pretty unambiguously reasonable grounds for firing from your teaching job though.
This can only work to a certain extent
Sorry but this is a shit example and you know it. I say shit like this on the daily, I frequently make utterances like ”man we need a new plague”, you can’t take random statements like ”cyclists should be run over” and fire someone over it, so either your place of employment is absolute knee-jerk trash or you’re leaving out key information.
Ha well shit you think things I experienced never happened guess you’re right! no. He got fired for saying that on a Facebook news article, while having our company info all over his Facebook account. Is that “leaving anything out” or do you just wanna drop it because it’s pretty damn dumb you think you know what happened
I didn’t say it didn’t happen? I said either you’re leaving out information or your employer is trash-tier. I’ve said asinine shit like that more times than I can count. If your coworker got fired for saying “cyclists should be run over” and nothing else, him getting fired was completely unjustified, your employer is shit and the guy is better off without them.
It's okay guys, she thought they were private, that totally makes it okay
So him having company associated material all over his page and having said that is just forgivable? People in this city take it seriously because people have run cyclists over. Your summary of the situation is garbage lol
Yes. Your personal opinions don't reflect the company you work for in any real situation, and even less so when it's asinine shit like "cyclists should get run over". You've stripped what the guy said of all context imaginable. I've said I think some people deserve the death sentance, both in jest and in serious contexts. Should I get fired for that regardless? It absolutely isn't, and it's really tragic that you think that way. You're limiting your freedoms in the interest of capitalism, in the interest of your employer. That's absolutely tragic.
He said it under his real name, under his personal facebook, which shows where he works and what he does. We work in insurance. We insure people against running over cyclists, or being run over. This is unproffessional to the extreme to associate with YOUR NAME. That's not complicated. If I was your customer, and I learned you said that shit, I wouldn't want to be your customer anymore. How is that hard to get? Freedom of speech has never, ever meant "freedom of consequences". So what if this guy had said something mildly "nazi esque"? Would you then be suddenly changing your mind and saying we could fire him? I'm not taking any "offense" over this. I'm confused by your insistence that none of this matters in contrast to your highly controlling ideas in other avenues of life lol
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