Raiding - indestructible metal doors - Rust

I've had enough of this. I'm the type of guy who likes saving his gear, not just losing it. The most logic thing you can do is add an option to modded servers to disable the option to destroy metal doors. Wooden ones is more logic to be destroyed, but losing my base every night is not what I thought I'm buying. Having a house with 500 doors in it is just stupid, I'm trying to have fun and this is decaying and frustrating. Same as sleepers ON/OFF modded servers, make Raids ON/OFF mode aswell. For the people who don't agree: You don't have to play on it, and you don't have to like this idea - I know I'd like to see it, and I know that others might will aswell. I understand that this is alpha, but this is a major function that must be added. I'm sure many new servers will turn this feature on. Thank you. [B][U]People here gets misconfused.[/U][/B] It's an option to turn on or off when you first host your server. You don't have to join this server, you can still do raids on the other servers that you usually play on, since it's the type of game you might like. I like this option as much as you people like raids. There is no harm here to any of us, in fact, it might lure more people into buying more servers. the sleepers on/off option has been there and it never spoiled anyone's gameplay yet. i don't see how this option will ruin yours. if some people like it, why not supporting us? even if you don't like it, think how does it harm me, and how does it benefit others. so why not helping out?.... it's your call.

[QUOTE=Warden;43182627]I've had enough of this. I'm the type of guy who likes saving his gear, not just losing it. The most logic thing you can do is add an option to modded servers to disable the option to destroy metal doors. Wooden ones is more logic to be destroyed, but losing my base every night is not what I thought I'm buying. Having a house with 500 doors in it is just stupid, I'm trying to have fun and this is decaying and frustrating. Same as sleepers ON/OFF modded servers, make Raids ON/OFF mode aswell. For the people who don't agree: You don't have to play on it, and you don't have to like this idea - I know I'd like to see it, and I know that others might will aswell. [B]Don't even reply here if you don't agree[/B], if you'd like to support this please make a reply so the developers can see this. I understand that this is alpha, but this is a major function that must be added. I'm sure many servers will turn this feature on. Thank you.[/QUOTE] You are an idiot. I will leave it at that. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

This is the stupidest bullshit I've heard in a while...

so you are allowed to have fun because you played since the game started, and you probally have stacks of hundreds of C4s and i'm not allowed to? this is why a turn on or off option should be added, same as the sleepers.

[QUOTE=Warden;43182803]so you are allowed to have fun because you played since the game started, and you probally have stacks of hundreds of C4s and i'm not allowed to? this is why a turn on or off option should be added, same as the sleepers.[/QUOTE] It is a [B]survival game.[/B] you will get [B]raided[/B] and [B]die[/B] a [B]lot.[/B] do I need to spell it out for you? If you don't like raiding, go play Minecraft, kid. Otherwise quit complaining, you just need to build a stronger structure and be more aggressive in defending your house. Get better or get out. That is how it works.

It's pretty obvious what he's asking for. He would like it to be possible for servers to be created where metal doors are indestructible. Anyone that is wasting any amount of time in here that disagrees is probably missing the point, if you like destructible doors, then keep playing the way you are, but for guys like our friend here that don't like being raided, maybe someday he can find a new server with new options, with non-destructible metal doors. Survival game this, raids are cool that, blah blah blah. Bottom line is an OPTION for what he's suggesting for people that PURCHASE their OWN SERVER to use, would not effect anyone but the people that join that server. I personally think non-destructible doors would be really lame and a terrible idea, so I would NEVER join a server with that option selected. PROBLEM SOLVED.

[QUOTE=jonnymad;43182811]It is a [B]survival game.[/B] you will get [B]raided[/B] and [B]die[/B] a [B]lot.[/B] do I need to spell it out for you? If you don't like raiding, go play Minecraft, kid. Otherwise quit complaining, you just need to build a stronger structure and be more aggressive in defending your house. Get better or get out. That is how it works.[/QUOTE] Go f yourself i payed 20$ for this game and i'm allowed to have fun in my own way and say what I want. calling me an idiot for saying whats on my mind without bothering others? i'm asking for an OPTION TO TURN ON AND OFF. I'll play on my favorite servers, and you where ever you want. are you better then me because you have 800 posts in this forum? telling me to go play something else? what are you so pissed off about? because the game got on steam and people are now buying it and suggesting ideas? deal with it, you don't like it, go play something else, kid. maybe mindcraft. douchebag [QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43182866]It's pretty obvious what he's asking for. He would like it to be possible for servers to be created where metal doors are indestructible. Anyone that is wasting any amount of time in here that disagrees is probably missing the point, if you like destructible doors, then keep playing the way you are, but for guys like our friend here that don't like being raided, maybe someday he can find a new server with new options, with non-destructible metal doors. Survival game this, raids are cool that, blah blah blah. Bottom line is an OPTION for what he's suggesting for people that PURCHASE their OWN SERVER to use, would not effect anyone but the people that join that server. I personally think non-destructible doors would be really lame and a terrible idea, so I would NEVER join a server with that option selected. PROBLEM SOLVED.[/QUOTE] +1

[QUOTE=jonnymad;43182811]It is a [B]survival game.[/B] you will get [B]raided[/B] and [B]die[/B] a [B]lot.[/B] do I need to spell it out for you? If you don't like raiding, go play Minecraft, kid. Otherwise quit complaining, you just need to build a stronger structure and be more aggressive in defending your house. Get better or get out. That is how it works.[/QUOTE] Specifically to you, jonnymad, you sound like a raging lunatic. This game is for sale right? The developer wants more money right? Creating more options that don't hurt the current game but ADD to the way it can be played can only further the success of the game. Seriously put some thought into this bro.

[QUOTE=Warden;43182877]Go f yourself i payed 20$ for this game and i'm allowed to have fun in my own way and say what I want. calling me an idiot for saying whats on my mind without bothering others? i'm asking for an OPTION TO TURN ON AND OFF. I'll play on my favorite servers, and you where ever you want. are you better then me because you have 800 posts in this forum? telling me to go play something else? what are you so pissed off about? because the game got on steam and people are now buying it and suggesting ideas? deal with it, you don't like it, go play something else, kid. maybe mindcraft. douchebag[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Warden;43182877]Don't even reply here if you don't agree[/QUOTE] HAHAHA! That's REALLY rich kid. I tell you again, go play Minecraft or Call of Doody, it's better suited for someone of your demeanor. [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43182888]Specifically to you, jonnymad, you sound like a raging lunatic. This game is for sale right? The developer wants more money right? Creating more options that don't hurt the current game but ADD to the way it can be played can only further the success of the game. Seriously put some thought into this bro.[/QUOTE] I just can't handle people being this stupid, I am normally a pretty okay guy.

[QUOTE=jonnymad;43182905]HAHAHA! That's REALLY rich kid. I tell you again, go play Minecraft or Call of Doody, it's better suited for someone of your demeanor. [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] I just can't handle people being this stupid, I am normally a pretty okay guy.[/QUOTE] never played neither. well, call of duty 2 long time ago when you still had them diapers. get out of my thread, you're not wanted here. you may vote and leave, son.

[QUOTE=Warden;43182627][B]Don't even reply here if you don't agree[/B], if you'd like to support this please make a reply so the developers can see this.[/QUOTE] This is not how a suggestion/opinion works. A lot of people seem to forget that Rust is mainly a survival PvP game, not entirely a base builder. The game is all about struggle, gain, and loss between players. If it were nothing but gain and easy victories - it would be pointless and get boring quick. Many people enjoy raiding and destroying bases because they were the victims, once. It's satisfying to claw your way to the top and make sure no one else stays there with you. It's not easy, but no one said it would be.

[QUOTE=Warden;43182930]never played neither. well, call of duty long time ago when you still had them diapers. get out of my thread, you're not wanted here. you may vote and leave, son.[/QUOTE] This is a public forum, I am allowed to speak my opinions as much as you are. And I'm certain that I am a good 10 years older than you, and I am only 19. As for my opinion, it does not need to be done, it is a stupid suggestion, I would have left it at that, but you had to include that line about not replying if you don't agree. that makes my blood boil because it is literally the dumbest thing I have ever read.

[QUOTE=jonnymad;43182905]HAHAHA! That's REALLY rich kid. I tell you again, go play Minecraft or Call of Doody, it's better suited for someone of your demeanor. [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] I just can't handle people being this stupid, I am normally a pretty okay guy.[/QUOTE] I don't think the warden here took the best approach explaining his idea, but I don't disagree with what he's saying. There is really no reason for ANYONE to be against an option for something that can be put on a custom server. If he was suggesting a core gameplay change that is understandable. But options are always good, as long as they don't force a change to the core gameplay the DEVs have in mind. And an option for 'unofficial' servers to disable Raids, allow flying unicorns and fingernail painting wouldn't hurt me. Because that's fairy sh*t and I wouldn't go near that server. But more power to the fairies. BTW - this is similar to the whole gay marriage debacle. Who cares? It doesn't effect you move along.

[QUOTE=Dmaster;43182946]This is not how a suggestion/opinion works. A lot of people seem to forget that Rust is mainly a survival PvP game, not entirely a base builder. The game is all about struggle, gain, and loss between players. If it were nothing but gain and easy victories - it would be pointless and get boring quick. A lot of people enjoy raiding and destroying bases because they were the victims, once. It's satisfying to claw your way to the top and make sure no one else stays there with you. It's not easy, but no one said it would be.[/QUOTE] A man of sense, thank you.

[QUOTE=Dmaster;43182946]This is not how a suggestion/opinion works. A lot of people seem to forget that Rust is mainly a survival PvP game, not entirely a base builder. The game is all about struggle, gain, and loss between players. If it were nothing but gain and easy victories - it would be pointless and get boring quick. A lot of people enjoy raiding and destroying bases because they were the victims, once. It's satisfying to claw your way to the top and make sure no one else stays there with you. It's not easy, but no one said it would be.[/QUOTE] You know what, i made a mistake typing that. i admit. what I really meant was if you have some hate or raging opinion like this guy had, stay away. these kind of posts only drag others (and me) to more rage flames and spam. stating other opinions is fine, just not like he did. [QUOTE=jonnymad;43182964]A man of sense, thank you.[/QUOTE] Stop raiding my thread jonny, i wish i had an option to turn you off right now :)

[QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43182963]I don't think the warden here took the best approach explaining his idea, but I don't disagree with what he's saying. There is really no reason for ANYONE to be against an option for something that can be put on a custom server. If he was suggesting a core gameplay change that is understandable. But options are always good, as long as they don't force a change to the core gameplay the DEVs have in mind. And an option for 'unofficial' servers to disable Raids, allow flying unicorns and fingernail painting wouldn't hurt me. Because that's fairy sh*t and I wouldn't go near that server. But more power to the fairies. BTW - this is similar to the whole gay marriage debacle. Who cares? It doesn't effect you move along.[/QUOTE] Point taken, that's not what I am caught up on though, it's the blatant ignorance and stupidity he is showing when posing the idea. And I respectfully disagree with the idea, but disrespectfully disagree with everything else he said.

[QUOTE=Dmaster;43182946]This is not how a suggestion/opinion works. A lot of people seem to forget that Rust is mainly a survival PvP game, not entirely a base builder. The game is all about struggle, gain, and loss between players. If it were nothing but gain and easy victories - it would be pointless and get boring quick. A lot of people enjoy raiding and destroying bases because they were the victims, once. It's satisfying to claw your way to the top and make sure no one else stays there with you. It's not easy, but no one said it would be.[/QUOTE] So how does a custom server with no raiding effect this core element, when we're seeing here most people would never join such a server? It doesn't. It only adds further diversity, which = more sales, and more content.

[QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43182991]So how does a custom server with no raiding effect this core element, when we're seeing here most people would never join such a server? It doesn't. It only adds further diversity, which = more sales, and more content.[/QUOTE] If that is what you want go host a server and make it happen, otherwise leave it be, no one else supports the idea because we want raiding, not that we want to be raided, but we want to raid.

[url]https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.madison[/url] nice Raiding hat bro

[QUOTE=Warden;43183035][url]https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.madison[/url] nice Raiding hat bro[/QUOTE] Not my profile, but that got a huge laugh out of me :v: I haven't updated my URL, my profile is [URL="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.madison.52"]here.[/URL]

[QUOTE=jonnymad;43183012]If that is what you want go host a server and make it happen, otherwise leave it be, no one else supports the idea because we want raiding, not that we want to be raided, but we want to raid.[/QUOTE] I love raiding, was raided today while at work and when I get home I will seek revenge. It'll be a blast. But currently poor warden doesn't have an option to start a server without raiding(indestructible metal doors as an OPTION on custom servers would solve that), if there was an OPTION to create indestructible door type servers then he could play there in peace and I would stay in my East Chicago server seeking revenge on the A$$HATS THAT TOOK MY SH*T WHILE MY GUY WAS SLEEPING 20 STORIES UP!

[QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43183051]I love raiding, was raided today while at work and when I get home I will seek revenge. It'll be a blast. But currently poor warden doesn't have an option to start a server without raiding(indestructible metal doors as an OPTION on custom servers would solve that), if there was an OPTION to create indestructible door type servers then he could play there in peace and I would stay in my East Chicago server seeking revenge on the A$$HATS THAT TOOK MY SH*T WHILE MY GUY WAS SLEEPING 20 STORIES UP![/QUOTE] That's the thing, what is the point of the game without raiding? It wasn't built to be played without, it is a core mechanic. That's why I think it's a dumb idea. And I respectfully disagree with it, like I said, but it was the way he presented it that got me upset.

[QUOTE=jonnymad;43182811]It is a [B]survival game.[/B] you will get [B]raided[/B] and [B]die[/B] a [B]lot.[/B] do I need to spell it out for you? If you don't like raiding, go play Minecraft, kid. Otherwise quit complaining, you just need to build a stronger structure and be more aggressive in defending your house. Get better or get out. That is how it works.[/QUOTE] I think he does not have a problem with dying, but is unhappy about having to restart from scratch every night due to how easy it is for established groups to raid houses. It makes the game extremely hardcore and it would be unwise to fail to introduce more lenient server options for players who want a more relaxed PvP environment. Also, calling others "idiots" and "kids" does not help your argument in any way, but is pretty much in line with what I have seen in my short time with this community.

The game is, at its core, a survival game. If you're trying to amass some crazy wealth beyond necessities, you're missing the point.

[QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43182991]So how does a custom server with no raiding effect this core element, when we're seeing here most people would never join such a server? It doesn't. It only adds further diversity, which = more sales, and more content.[/QUOTE] Except it's literally pointless to make such a change, PvE servers are enough if you can't handle the difficulty, even though I dislike them, too. Getting rid of raiding in Rust is like removing the ability to draw "Xs" in Tic-Tac-Toe.

[QUOTE=mr_sneakyTV;43183051]I love raiding, was raided today while at work and when I get home I will seek revenge. It'll be a blast. But currently poor warden doesn't have an option to start a server without raiding(indestructible metal doors as an OPTION on custom servers would solve that), if there was an OPTION to create indestructible door type servers then he could play there in peace and I would stay in my East Chicago server seeking revenge on the A$$HATS THAT TOOK MY SH*T WHILE MY GUY WAS SLEEPING 20 STORIES UP![/QUOTE] well, yes. i still don't see why he's so mad that I'm asking for another option for the other community who might be interested in it. it's like right now when you can either join a sleeper server, or a non sleeper server. i bet he just joins a random "no sleeper" server curses the admin in chat saying 'sleepers sucks' and leave. [url]https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.madison.52[/url] You have a picture of Puttin riding a bear in your profile picture and i'm the kid here? i see where you got the "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY" agenda of yours. k

[QUOTE=cellcore;43183071]I think he does not have a problem with dying, but is unhappy about having to restart from scratch every night due to how easy it is for established groups to raid houses. It makes the game extremely hardcore and it would be unwise to fail to introduce more lenient server options for players who want a more relaxed PvP environment. Also, calling others "idiots" and "kids" does not help your argument in any way, but is pretty much in line with what I have seen in my short time with this community.[/QUOTE] You have made your point, what I said there was childish. I got angry and lashed out at his stupidity, buy I at least seemed to get my point across. [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Warden;43183092]well, yes. i still don't see why he's so mad that I'm asking for another option for the other community who might be interested in it. it's like right now when you can either join a sleeper server, or a non sleeper server. i bet he just joins a random "no sleeper" server curses the admin in chat saying 'sleepers sucks' and leave. [url]https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.madison.52[/url] You have a picture of Puttin riding a bear in your profile picture and i'm the kid here? k[/QUOTE] It's Putin, just one "t." And how is that childish? I have admiration for the man, he is basically a superhuman, though I do disagree with some of his politics. Also I happen to enjoy sleeper servers, makes me completely rethink where I am truly safe, I like to think of myself as a semi-hardcore gamer, I like to challenge myself.

[QUOTE=Warden;43183092]well, yes. i still don't see why he's so mad that I'm asking for another option for the other community who might be interested in it. it's like right now when you can either join a sleeper server, or a non sleeper server. i bet he just joins a random "no sleeper" server curses the admin in chat saying 'sleepers sucks' and leave. [url]https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.madison.52[/url] You have a picture of Puttin riding a bear in your profile picture and i'm the kid here? i see where you got the "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY" agenda of yours. k[/QUOTE] Any attempt to assert your maturity over him is lost by the fact that you are now angrily looking through his profiles to attempt and debase his arguments with personal information.

[QUOTE=Dmaster;43183085]Except it's literally pointless to make such a change, PvE servers are enough if you can't handle the difficulty, even though I dislike them, too. Getting rid of raiding in Rust is like removing the ability to draw "Xs" in Tic-Tac-Toe.[/QUOTE] are you drunk sir? i'm not getting rid of your raids, you can still do it in your own turf. and i'm not asking for NO PVP. I love pvp! I just don't want to lose some stuff when i'm offline. why not? why do you guys hate so much?

[QUOTE=Bulaba0;43183117]Any attempt to assert your maturity over him is lost by the fact that you are now angrily looking through his profiles to attempt and debase his arguments with personal information.[/QUOTE] This too, but I honestly don't care, if I had something to hide I wouldn't make my profiles public. [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Warden;43183124]are you drunk sir? i'm not getting rid of your raids, you can still do it in your own turf. and i'm not asking for NO PVP. I love pvp! I just don't want to lose some stuff when i'm offline. why not? why do you guys hate so much?[/QUOTE] Because it is not what the game is built for, it is built for surviving, which means that you would lie, cheat (not game-wise though,) and steal to get what you need to live. If you were in a real-life situation, I doubt you would care if people could blow doors off.