I've run into an interesting problem since you upgraded your site a little.
Every single time i enter your site with the newest version of Google Chrome, i get a BSOD less than 6 seconds later.
However, if i use Internet Explorer i can enter your site. But if i click on a video, on your latest devblog as an example. It will instantly give me a BSOD.
The funny thing is that it is actually the driver for my Radeon R9 290X that crashes completely, which i have never seen before.
Also, it might be worth mentioning that i am running the latest beta driver from AMD.
Does anyone know how to get around this problem, other than perhaps downgrading to the last stable driver version?
And is anyone else having this issue?
Sounds like driver issues for sure. Try a earlier version of amd drivers. It could be the embedded videos also giving you trouble.
Actually the site BSODed my work computer the other day as well but I figured it was a fluke. Some of the videos don't load as well or they'll play halfway and then disappear and the play button won't do anything.
The Youtube video works fine though. And I didn't get a BSOD on my home computer.
Are you using the same driver Sievers? If not, I would think possibly the updated Chrome is interacting with HAL in a way that most drivers don't expect.
Use Firefox instead :)
[QUOTE=oXYnary;44970588]Are you using the same driver Sievers? If not, I would think possibly the updated Chrome is interacting with HAL in a way that most drivers don't expect.[/QUOTE]
No, definitely not the same drivers. It's just a super average work computer. No fancy hardware or anything, definitely does not have a nvidia card.
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[QUOTE=GalegO;44970611]Use Firefox instead :)[/QUOTE]
Quite frankly, I think Firefox sucks. :zoid:
I'm mostly just kidding, but Chrome really is way better.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;44970661]Quite frankly, I think Firefox sucks. :zoid:
I'm mostly just kidding, but Chrome really is way better.[/QUOTE]
I dont have any issues with Firefox today. But I confess the 4~9 versions were very bad :/ I use since 1.6 (I think were 2009).
This is like a soccer team (or other sport) each one have your prefered. :)
I believe it's an issue with ATI GFX drivers and flash in websites.
Downgrade from beta to stable drivers if you don't like the beta drivers crashing.
Im on a ATI 7800 series here, but non beta drivers with no issue with flash. (Different browser though). Sievers, is the machine at work using built in graphics? (I.E. Intel). If so would further point to the browser..
I also have this problem, with firefox it will crash before it even loads the page, with chrome though it will load most of the times. It probably has something to do with the embedded videos, at least that's when my problems started and it has become progressively worse with each new devblog.
Edit: Maybe it's just too many videos buffering at the same time, some page sorting would fix it or individual devblogs so you don't have to load all of them.
I was getting a crash with atikmpag.sys, removing Catalyst Control Centre solved it.
[QUOTE=arion;44971918]I was getting a crash with atikmpag.sys, removing Catalyst Control Centre solved it.[/QUOTE]
Yeeeah....You usually do not want to remove that.
[QUOTE=Nebbyr;44972652]Yeeeah....You usually do not want to remove that.[/QUOTE]
Why not? You don't really need it.
[QUOTE=Nebbyr;44972652]Yeeeah....You usually do not want to remove that.[/QUOTE]
The video driver and the Catalyst Control Center are two different things. Most of the time I consider CCC just bloatware because I don't use any of it's overclocking or customization tools.
Yes, I've noticed the same issue too - since upgrading to the Beta Catalyst Drivers 14.6 (to play Watch Dogs) aitkmdag.sys is the thing that triggers it. I have an R9 R290
playrust.com is needlessly complicated and resource intensive, not sure why they would decide to do this (though, their game is needlessly complicated and resource intensive too :rolleyes:)
Just to share my specs and compare with yours:
I have in my Desktop the Firefox Nightly v32 (dev branch) with HD7850 and 14.6 drivers, and in my notebook I have the Firefox v29.0.1 with Intel driver v10.18.10.3277 (lastest) and an Nvidia 740M with 337.88 drivers.
I don't have any issues in my both machines and both are running W8.1u1 x64.
What you need to do is disable automatic restart on system failure.
This will allow you to get some information from the BSOD without the PC shutting down on you. The good things with windows is that a lot of people have it and a lot of issues happen often (Try being a Dev).
Once your PC has crashed viewing the site on Google Chrome, get the error number or name (eg. 0x00000c4 is Driver Failure and the solution is insuring you have the correct drivers).
You need to get the whole part of the error, then a simple Google search will lead you to the answer and possible solutions.
Now for the best solution, contrariety to popular belief, Google Chrome is slow, unstable, and insecure. The fact a single website is able to make your PC BSOD shows how poorly programmed and how vulnerable it is.
Until Google releases a fix for the security flaw I would highly recommend changing to a more Open and Secure Browser (Firefox, or Opera).
Lucky I just upgraded to a 780 ti.. Was amd for life, but god their drivers are horrible now.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;44972881]The video driver and the Catalyst Control Center are two different things. Most of the time I consider CCC just bloatware because I don't use any of it's overclocking or customization tools.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Lots of useful settings in there though. I use it constantly to change color schemes for when I'm in photoshop or other stuff. So removing it is not an option for me.
[QUOTE=csfulton;44975914]What you need to do is disable automatic restart on system failure.
This will allow you to get some information from the BSOD without the PC shutting down on you. The good things with windows is that a lot of people have it and a lot of issues happen often (Try being a Dev).
Once your PC has crashed viewing the site on Google Chrome, get the error number or name (eg. 0x00000c4 is Driver Failure and the solution is insuring you have the correct drivers).
You need to get the whole part of the error, then a simple Google search will lead you to the answer and possible solutions.
Now for the best solution, contrariety to popular belief, Google Chrome is slow, unstable, and insecure. The fact a single website is able to make your PC BSOD shows how poorly programmed and how vulnerable it is.
Until Google releases a fix for the security flaw I would highly recommend changing to a more Open and Secure Browser (Firefox, or Opera).[/QUOTE]
Google Chrome is "one" of the safer browsers out there, and has all of the features that you could ever need, and it still is the leader when it comes to HTML5 support. ( [url]http://www.extremetech.com/computing/178587-firefox-is-still-the-least-secure-web-browser-falls-to-four-zero-day-exploits-at-pwn2own[/url] )
However. If security is what you are looking for, go use Whitehat Aviator. Safest alternative out there at the moment.
Also, no need to set anything in windows to see the bluescreens, just download BlueScreenViewer and it'll get all of the logs from previous BSOD's.
Also, this is happening with Opera, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, so it is not browser related it would seem.
Rather, there is something on the site that causes the AMD drivers to crash.
Now hold on here Neb. It haw not been established its not Chrome. UNless you have attempted different browsers and they all cause bsod? Your original post makes no mention of such.
Seiver said he had this issue on a work computer. Havent heard back which video ard it had, but most likely Intel, and more than likely not a Beta.
We have someone complaining about firefox crashing, but this is not the same issue as a Bsod that so far has only been shown to have Chrome in common. If Seiver gets back with info about the work computer, it may or may not show a correlation to an ati driver and chrome boo boo.
If we are going to get into browser wars, may I remind you that Chrome does keep track of your browsing habits to help Google better focus ads.
Speaking of my work computer, I totally lied. It actually has a Nvidia geforce gt 520 running driver version 9.18.13.3221.
It doesn't BSOD everytime, just that once. I haven't tried it with Firefox or IE (I will rue the day that I use IE for anything that it isn't absolutely required for).
[QUOTE=oXYnary;44979529]Now hold on here Neb. It haw not been established its not Chrome. UNless you have attempted different browsers and they all cause bsod? Your original post makes no mention of such.
Seiver said he had this issue on a work computer. Havent heard back which video ard it had, but most likely Intel, and more than likely not a Beta.
We have someone complaining about firefox crashing, but this is not the same issue as a Bsod that so far has only been shown to have Chrome in common. If Seiver gets back with info about the work computer, it may or may not show a correlation to an ati driver and chrome boo boo.
If we are going to get into browser wars, may I remind you that Chrome does keep track of your browsing habits to help Google better focus ads.[/QUOTE]
I've tested with all of the above browsers, as i use them to test out my sites (C# Web developer).
Also, i do not worry about Google keeping track of my browsing habits. They already know everything about everyone, man.
[QUOTE=Nebbyr;44990212]I've tested with all of the above browsers, as i use them to test out my sites (C# Web developer).
Also, i do not worry about Google keeping track of my browsing habits. They already know everything about everyone, man.[/QUOTE]
Congrats on programing a website in C#. (May seam as an attack, but fact) I guess it is only amateur work, since you haven't displayed any concerns that you should be having regarding ethical programming which you receive from formal programming courses.
The argument "i do not worry about Google keeping track of my browsing habits. They already know everything about everyone" is of huge concerns... The fact you don't care about your privacy worries me a lot.
You are basically saying you don't mind some stranger off the street following you everywhere, recording every single thing you do. Sure your doing nothing wrong, but that usually frustrates people. A PC can and does track things you do. Sure it is "To improve customer service" or "To better provide service to you" are good reason to know what I have interests in and might enjoy, but what happens when someone else gets access to that data and you don't know.
Now back to the fact that this website is causing BSOD. Not noticed in my environment running nVidia cards, both Quadro and GeForce with Intel CPU and AMD CPU. So it might be related to AMD GPU Drivers. AMD are known for poorer quality drivers.
Is it drivers? Looking at the versions of windows being used, browsers, and cards. It looks like AMD has not done any QA work on Windows 7 and have moved on to put more effort in Windows 8. This is common practice that with new versions of Windows, the whole development team receive the new version of windows and test in that environment and do minor testing in older versions of windows.
TLDR: Dont use programs that track you, dont use new drivers and cards on older windows.
[QUOTE=csfulton;44994231]Congrats on programing a website in C#. (May seam as an attack, but fact) I guess it is only amateur work, since you haven't displayed any concerns that you should be having regarding ethical programming which you receive from formal programming courses.
The argument "i do not worry about Google keeping track of my browsing habits. They already know everything about everyone" is of huge concerns... The fact you don't care about your privacy worries me a lot.
You are basically saying you don't mind some stranger off the street following you everywhere, recording every single thing you do. Sure your doing nothing wrong, but that usually frustrates people. A PC can and does track things you do. Sure it is "To improve customer service" or "To better provide service to you" are good reason to know what I have interests in and might enjoy, but what happens when someone else gets access to that data and you don't know.
Now back to the fact that this website is causing BSOD. Not noticed in my environment running nVidia cards, both Quadro and GeForce with Intel CPU and AMD CPU. So it might be related to AMD GPU Drivers. AMD are known for poorer quality drivers.
Is it drivers? Looking at the versions of windows being used, browsers, and cards. It looks like AMD has not done any QA work on Windows 7 and have moved on to put more effort in Windows 8. This is common practice that with new versions of Windows, the whole development team receive the new version of windows and test in that environment and do minor testing in older versions of windows.
TLDR: Dont use programs that track you, dont use new drivers and cards on older windows.[/QUOTE]
Professional work. But that's not really the important part right now.
All i know is that an element on the site is acting up with the latest AMD Driver.
I do not worry about google collecting my browsing habits. I have nothing to hide from them, and i am willing to trade those "very" secret facebook and facepunch sites to them for the fast secure browser with a lot of available plugins, with an amazing integration with Google+ and my Gmail.
Now, the drivers are all updated for Windows 7, which is still, in my own opinion the best Windows out there, because i simply prefer it over the touch OS Windows 8.
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