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Hi ! I have rust, and i would like change my character because rust is on alpha, i prefer a game, or i can choose my character. for exemple : h1z1 we can choose a boy or a girl, black or white and also choose the first name custom character in a game has always been much better seen I would like change my character because i do not like it to be assigned by the game, it's my choice, and it must always be choose by the person Thanks.

except in this case it is NOT your choice. the devs want it that way, and in the end it's not our decision.

not being able to customize is intended by the devs, so get over it :)

[QUOTE=mrknifey;50555231]except in this case it is NOT your choice. the devs want it that way, and in the end it's not our decision.[/QUOTE] yes but they can change it, and a lot of people like it, the choice has always been important [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=tejota;50555245]not being able to customize is intended by the devs, so get over it :)[/QUOTE] This is a request... for change it

[QUOTE=xLomble77;50555251]the choice has always been important[/QUOTE] not really. i didn't stop playing tomb raider because i had to play as a girl. or halo 2 because the arbiter is an alien. or mechwarrior because robots. it's the way the devs want this game to be (at least, from what they have told us). you don't go up to id and say "hey guy, i love doom and all, but can you take out the monsters? i just wanna run around in the pits of hell without being killed all the time". you either play or you don't. to be clear, there is nothing wrong with having suggestions for a game in progress. but if the people making the game disagree, that's kind of the end of the conversation. don't like it, don't play. or make your own game where you can choose. i'm afraid this one's been discussed to death.

[QUOTE=xLomble77;50555251]yes but they can change it[/QUOTE] not just like that, they'd have to change the entire system. [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] (which they won't)

[QUOTE=xLomble77;50555223]it's my choice, and it must always be choose by the person[/QUOTE] Then you can go play H1Z1 or ARK instead of Rust. Can you come up with a reason other than "I want it"? How is the gameplay enhanced by you being able to choose your character's gender or skin colour? I actually want you to try and answer this. [QUOTE=xLomble77;50555251]This is a request... for change it[/QUOTE] This request has been made dozens of times since the enforced appearance randomization system was announced. The devs are not interested in listening to this request.

Who knows....as they develop the game more, the player models will get rerolled again. Oddly, my player model has remained the same color, gender, build, etc through all the changes.

Short answer no

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50556061]Then you can go play H1Z1 or ARK instead of Rust. Can you come up with a reason other than "I want it"? How is the gameplay enhanced by you being able to choose your character's gender or skin colour? I actually want you to try and answer this. This request has been made dozens of times since the enforced appearance randomization system was announced. The devs are not interested in listening to this request.[/QUOTE] He doesn't need a reason to want it, and it doesn't need to enhance gameplay. There are many that think the game as a whole would be better with it, and if he merely wants to voice his opinion for it, that is enough justification to ask FP to reconsider.

[QUOTE=Kurogo;50558664]He doesn't need a reason to want it, and it doesn't need to enhance gameplay. There are many that think the game as a whole would be better with it, and if he merely wants to voice his opinion for it, that is enough justification to ask FP to reconsider.[/QUOTE] they did consider it, and then they decided "No" That's what the devs want. Sorry

[QUOTE=raz r23;50558712]they did consider it, and then they decided "No" That's what the devs want. Sorry[/QUOTE] Reconsider = consider again. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Kurogo;50558964]Reconsider = consider again. Sorry.[/QUOTE] How many times must they accept requests to reconsider a decision they have decided and implemented? There has been no compelling reason presented beyond "every other game has it and I demand it in Rust too". It has been pointed out that the character variation introduces disparities in hitbox sizes, and I imagine that'll be a balance issue that gets fixed at some point down the line, and allowing people to customize themselves would only ensure they try and minimize their hitbox and everyone's exactly the same so it's not an argument in favour of customization anyway. The devs have put a lot of work into the character system and it would be a non-trivial amount of work to change it into a player-driven customization system. [I]Why[/I] should the devs expend this extra effort and change their plans away from what they want to do? "I want it" from a vocal minority is not a compelling argument.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50558983]How many times must they accept requests to reconsider a decision they have decided and implemented? There has been no compelling reason presented beyond "every other game has it and I demand it in Rust too". It has been pointed out that the character variation introduces disparities in hitbox sizes, and I imagine that'll be a balance issue that gets fixed at some point down the line, and allowing people to customize themselves would only ensure they try and minimize their hitbox and everyone's exactly the same so it's not an argument in favour of customization anyway. The devs have put a lot of work into the character system and it would be a non-trivial amount of work to change it into a player-driven customization system. [I]Why[/I] should the devs expend this extra effort and change their plans away from what they want to do? "I want it" from a vocal minority is not a compelling argument.[/QUOTE] And when that vocal minority becomes the majority? Despite what the oppenents to it say, there hasn't been any evidence to support that players would all choose the options that gave them the highest competitive edge. Hell, you guys can't even agree on what the example should be when you jump to the assumption of what everyone would choose to look like. You're own arguments stand as testament to the diversity that would continue to exist if we were given the choice. So to answer your question: they should continually reconsider it until the day Rust is finished, just as they continually examine everything else they are trying out in the game.

who says the vocal minority will ever become the majority on this issue? and unless the minority provide some kind of impetus to the devs to change their opinion, why would they spend time implementing something they literally do not want in their game? a players "i want" is not equal in value to the game developers "i don't want".

[QUOTE=mrknifey;50559180]who says the vocal minority will ever become the majority on this issue? and unless the minority provide some kind of impetus to the devs to change their opinion, why would they spend time implementing something they literally do not want in their game? a players "i want" is not equal in value to the game developers "i don't want".[/QUOTE] Who's to say they won't be? I mean, to put things in perspective, the only people to speak out against it are those that are already here. Add everyone together that have touched the subject and we're all the minority amidst the playerbase. The difference is that those speaking for it are growing faster than those that oppose it. More have said they wouldn't buy the game because it lacks this than those that wouldn't if it were added. If the profit of sales doesn't carry a measurable weight against the effort of Devs, and the only Dev to voice he doesn't want it is garry, then I don't know what will, but it still doesn't provide a reason why the players can't ask for it. Who knows, maybe some of the other Devs would like to see what happens with it.

things could change. but so far, every time it comes up nothing changes; and that seems to be A) because the people making the game do not (currently) wish to implement character choice and B) because the people voicing this opinion seem to be the minority. i simply don't see this changing just because a few people "want" it. if they want to see the devs review their decision, they should provide more coherent, valuable arguments, such as those i've seen from yourself. "want doesn't get" and all that.

[QUOTE=Kurogo;50559282]The difference is that those speaking for it are growing faster than those that oppose it. More have said they wouldn't buy the game because it lacks this than those that wouldn't if it were added.[/QUOTE] Got any hard statistics for this?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50559371]Got any hard statistics for this?[/QUOTE] Probably the two whiny kids we get each week demanding their character be changed for whatever reason. It's like Knifey said [QUOTE]i didn't stop playing tomb raider because i had to play as a girl[/QUOTE] Of course you have kids that are sad enough, but you have to be bottom of the barrel sad, to be that petty.

[QUOTE=xLomble77;50555223]Hi ! I have rust, and i would like change my character because rust is on alpha, i prefer a game, or i can choose my character. for exemple : h1z1 we can choose a boy or a girl, black or white and also choose the first name custom character in a game has always been much better seen I would like change my character because i do not like it to be assigned by the game, it's my choice, and it must always be choose by the person Thanks.[/QUOTE] Man its rust not sims or somethin'.

What's an arbiter?

Since the devs implemented this to be random and they had good reasons for it, I guess that they won't change it back. (Not any time soon) They had a good reason for it; since they want to be everybody recognizable and if everybody had the option to choose their size or gender, it would be all huge guys, or small girls with big boobs. That's just not what Rust is about. Not at all! Now they're busy with face impressions to distinguish even more your character model with mine. Now they have a nice variety of people walking around and the probability of finding someone that looks like you will be hard in a few months from now. That's all what the devs intended to do! Now people are asking to give the possibility to change your character at the start of the game, so just 1 time and then they're satisfied. But if they do so, then you still end up with probably an equal playerbase that starts asking for a reconstruction mod, since they're not satisfied with their current being. We are all people, people of the 20th and especially the 21th century are used to the fact that they can have almost everything they want. We are spoiled. And as soon as we don't get what we want, we start whining. Because that's how we are, we are spoiled brats. Rust is luckily fighting against that. They do what they want and you have to either change or stop playing this amazing, wonderful, great game! Stop complaining, get used to it;)

[QUOTE=Tripper3k;50559578]What's an arbiter?[/QUOTE] why, [URL="http://i.imgur.com/xDiDyp9.jpg"]this[/URL] handsome fellow:)

I feel like i have a handicap with boobs in rust the hitboxes are bigger. Ill demand a change!

[QUOTE=SulliG99;50561419]I feel like i have a handicap with boobs in rust the hitboxes are bigger. Ill demand a change![/QUOTE] but your shoulders and waist are smaller, so it basically depends on what direction you're facing.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50559371]Got any hard statistics for this?[/QUOTE] If you want numbers, no, I don't feel like going through the forums and counting all the accounts created just to request this feature. But, I have yet to see a single account created to laud randomization.

[QUOTE=Kurogo;50564277]If you want numbers, no, I don't feel like going through the forums and counting all the accounts created just to request this feature. But, I have yet to see a single account created to laud randomization.[/QUOTE] So you want to create a post saying how everyone's for the idea of character selection, but when you're asked for basic proof, you won't deliver?

[QUOTE=Kurogo;50564277]If you want numbers, no, I don't feel like going through the forums and counting all the accounts created just to request this feature. But, I have yet to see a single account created to laud randomization.[/QUOTE] There's this weird quirk with us humans unfortunately. We tend to focus more on the negative than the positive. This tends to complicate things when trying to compare negative reviews to positive reviews. Happy people usually don't take time out of their day to praise something. They just continue having fun. There's a reason they call it the vocal minority.

after the "backlash" (read whining) of a vocal minority when they introduced female characters, I thought Garry made it clear about the reason behind it being random and non customizable, and how he is not changing it. I know this is a discussion forum and all but be aware that this is a moot point...

[QUOTE=Zipper Bear;50564803]There's this weird quirk with us humans unfortunately. We tend to focus more on the negative than the positive. This tends to complicate things when trying to compare negative reviews to positive reviews. Happy people usually don't take time out of their day to praise something. They just continue having fun. There's a reason they call it the vocal minority.[/QUOTE] Here's the drawback though, they tend to get mixed in with the people that either don't care either way, or just don't bother with forums. [editline]22nd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=crazzyman228;50564290]So you want to create a post saying how everyone's for the idea of character selection, but when you're asked for basic proof, you won't deliver?[/QUOTE] It's kind of like you using hyperbole, and completely ruining your own point.