Cant play on any server no more (Not being big headed) just read

[TheStevieJ]

Since the start of rust, well not the start, about the 200h mark of rust, I have been banned from nearly every if not every server I play on. This is for the simple fact of the accusations of me using aimbot. I have almost 700 hours in the game, am an experienced player and would classify myself as a decent shot, most of the shots I fire end up being a headshot or a double headshot, or a headshot chestshot. I very rarely do not hit a HS in a firefight.

I can see why this would lead to people thinking I'm hacking and then eventually banning me, but I literally can not play on any server, I play a server, the admins seem nice, investigate me etc etc then I still end up being banned.

An example happened yesterday - I was helping populate a server, an waiting around 4 days for it to reach a population of 30-40 players before I went out to fight as I knew they would end up leaving, I've known the admin on the server for 4-5months and knew I was a legit player, which is why I decided to play there and get it populated, so I have a safe place to play with no risk of ban due to 'hacking'. However, after me and my friend were ambushed near factory by 9 kev's, we were 2 kevs, both had around 50 shots on us, we killed them all, using a total of around 15 barricades and luring each of them out and moving to better positions etc to have the advantage. After they died, around 12 of them come to my house, with around 100 c4, in the server its 4 c4 per door, they had 100 due to a 'money' glitch and had $300 million on a econ server, c4 was 15k. As they were approaching my base I killed 2-3 of them, all shots being headshots, because thats all I aim for, I rather miss or hit hs's, or the upper body. They respawned ofc and then rushed my house all together, I ended up killing their entire crew solo, numerous times, and then eventually got banned due to the amount of headshots I hit, and how often I hit them.

What I said above reading through it sounds like im tooting my own horn, but its how it went down, and id rather say it how it is rather then dumb it down saying I hit a leg shot etc and they were being unreasonable. I would ban me, if I was an admin and see the shots I were doing, consecutive headshots at 90m + on multiple guys.

The point is, I cannot play any rust server as I just get banned for 'aimbotting'. I've fought against people like Real_BM, Bchillz, Ex0z, Tyler and I can kill them, they kill me a lot also, but I also struggle to hit HS's on them a lot more then every other person. Most people just dont know how to correctly move whilst in a fire fight resulting in easier hs's, but people who have experience like mentioned above do, they get banned a lot, but because they have a name, some servers dont ban them. I'm not trying to say I'm anything special at rust, but I would say I'm above average for the amount of bans I have and its ridiculous because its like every server. I cannot count the servers i've been banned from.

Does anyone know when official servers will be fixed so I can actually play a server? Because right now I just cannot play rust. I quit rust for CS:GO for this reason, then returned and its still the same.

This is just me venting cause I'm pissed off with constantly wasting hours to be banned for something that's not true, i'll probably end up filming some gameplay to post here to show you the hs's I hit in firefights which result in my bans.

[Hank420]

If you are so good, you could try to be not that good.
Like a genius pretending to be dumb.

[zFugitive]

Simple temporary solution, stop killing so many people?

[TheStevieJ]

[QUOTE=Hank420;45017141]If you are so good, you could try to be not that good.
Like a genius pretending to be dumb.[/QUOTE]

Just ruins the fun for me because I cannot play to my full potential, I don't even find aiming in this game that much of a challenge, even aiming at the head on a moving target at 100m.

[editline]6th June 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=zFugitive;45017147]Simple temporary solution, stop killing so many people?[/QUOTE]

That's the thing, they attack me, then moan when they all die, I write that i refused to kill people for like 4 days, but when I go out and gather and go towns, people have an urge to fire, and then they die because of how bad they aim, how bad their movement is and how they don't know how to use cover properly.

Groups in this game really do not mean anything to me, If i get attacked by a group of 4, i'll stand and fight If I have the right resources to do so, and a lot of the time I'll win because I outsmart them and can out-aim them, an example - They peak a barri, stand still and wait for me to peak. So many people do that instead of shoulder peaking and going back, cause I shoulder peak see what they are doing, re-peak with a pre-aimed shot on their head and then fire = them dead = aimbot. So you cant win regardless.

This is by far my favourite game, and is kinda upsetting that I'm forced to waste time gear up have like a couple of days of pvp then banned, its still playable that way, but then I lose all the friends I make on servers because they 'believe the admin' as per usual, which is understandable but also stupid sometimes.

[Hank420]

Aiming is a piece of cake in this game because there are no real bullet physics. The bullet will always hit where you are aiming. No time difference, no dragdown due to gravity, nothing.
Once there are more real bullet physics, it will be harder to hit something 100m away.

I'd suggest to take a break from the game till the experimental branch got some nice updates and will be playable.

[TheStevieJ]

It really is, I say that, and people argue 'I'm really good at this game also, but you double hs me before I even had a chance to shoot you once at like 60m' - My response 'You're not that good then' them - 'You aimbot'.

I quit rust for 400 hours for cs;go, to try and await and update, but my craving come back to me, and I just got into rust once again really bad, and I just cant stop, its my addiction.

CS;GO Really helped me improve a lot on my aim also, I'll probably still end up playing and getting banned etc just because im hooked on rust once again currently, I cannot just stop D; Just wish I could find a server with admins that can do their job and dont follow people crying, I'm really looking forward to official servers being fixed with hardly any hackers so I can just play them.

[ceasetobe]

I run a server you could come check out, maybe teach me to be a better shot? If your interested in a server that won't kick you.

The red lion
66.55.159.208:28016

[Shwoop]

If your computer can handle it, start streaming via twitch.tv. If you get accused, link them to your stream.
That's how I handle it and I haven't had any issues since the second incident a few months ago.

[jayfkay]

[QUOTE=Hank420;45017194]Aiming is a piece of cake in this game (do I really believe what I am saying?) No ballistics no 100% realism hurr durr Rust y u no sniper elite v3?[/QUOTE]
The only competetive game that implements ballistics over hitscan is battlefield...and even there bullets register with miniscule delay speaking travel (most of the delay is caused by the riddiculous tickrate).
Cs, cod, quake, unreal, tf2.. did I forget any prominent competetive shooters?
Now.. what do these games have in common? EXACTLY. Hitscan. The majority of people loves hitscan.

Besides, even [B]IF[/B] gun ballistics were introduced, its EXACTLY like hitscan just a matter of practice, so no, it will not really be harder unless they fuck ballistcis up massiveley.

Again I am naming battlefield as the prime example of ballistics, as with little playtime and experience it is riddiculously easy to tap/burst people down at enormous ranges.
Still there are people better than others. Its all about practice and consistency... which I believe you do not have Hank if you make such statements.

[Pyroknight]

Wait aren't there like literally thousands of servers for rust

[Dionysus9]

Play on an official server. Boom--problem solved.

[Ebrim]

It sounds like you might have an unhealthy obsession with pointing and clicking. Maybe use all the bans as an opportunity to take up a hobby like knitting. If you so effortlessly dominate everyone anyway it can't actually be that satisfying of an experience.

[GalegO]

Show me the videos or didn't happen xD

[lolcatzuru]

[QUOTE=TheStevieJ;45017058]Since the start of rust, well not the start, about the 200h mark of rust, I have been banned from nearly every if not every server I play on. This is for the simple fact of the accusations of me using aimbot. I have almost 700 hours in the game, am an experienced player and would classify myself as a decent shot, most of the shots I fire end up being a headshot or a double headshot, or a headshot chestshot. I very rarely do not hit a HS in a firefight.

I can see why this would lead to people thinking I'm hacking and then eventually banning me, but I literally can not play on any server, I play a server, the admins seem nice, investigate me etc etc then I still end up being banned.

An example happened yesterday - I was helping populate a server, an waiting around 4 days for it to reach a population of 30-40 players before I went out to fight as I knew they would end up leaving, I've known the admin on the server for 4-5months and knew I was a legit player, which is why I decided to play there and get it populated, so I have a safe place to play with no risk of ban due to 'hacking'. However, after me and my friend were ambushed near factory by 9 kev's, we were 2 kevs, both had around 50 shots on us, we killed them all, using a total of around 15 barricades and luring each of them out and moving to better positions etc to have the advantage. After they died, around 12 of them come to my house, with around 100 c4, in the server its 4 c4 per door, they had 100 due to a 'money' glitch and had $300 million on a econ server, c4 was 15k. As they were approaching my base I killed 2-3 of them, all shots being headshots, because thats all I aim for, I rather miss or hit hs's, or the upper body. They respawned ofc and then rushed my house all together, I ended up killing their entire crew solo, numerous times, and then eventually got banned due to the amount of headshots I hit, and how often I hit them.

What I said above reading through it sounds like im tooting my own horn, but its how it went down, and id rather say it how it is rather then dumb it down saying I hit a leg shot etc and they were being unreasonable. I would ban me, if I was an admin and see the shots I were doing, consecutive headshots at 90m + on multiple guys.

The point is, I cannot play any rust server as I just get banned for 'aimbotting'. I've fought against people like Real_BM, Bchillz, Ex0z, Tyler and I can kill them, they kill me a lot also, but I also struggle to hit HS's on them a lot more then every other person. Most people just dont know how to correctly move whilst in a fire fight resulting in easier hs's, but people who have experience like mentioned above do, they get banned a lot, but because they have a name, some servers dont ban them. I'm not trying to say I'm anything special at rust, but I would say I'm above average for the amount of bans I have and its ridiculous because its like every server. I cannot count the servers i've been banned from.

Does anyone know when official servers will be fixed so I can actually play a server? Because right now I just cannot play rust. I quit rust for CS:GO for this reason, then returned and its still the same.

This is just me venting cause I'm pissed off with constantly wasting hours to be banned for something that's not true, i'll probably end up filming some gameplay to post here to show you the hs's I hit in firefights which result in my bans.[/QUOTE]

if your this good at the game you might wanna email FP about being a game tester, at least that way you will not only get your access back, but you'll also get paid... that would be the solution if you weren't actually aimbotting. I have no idea who you are but the fact that you weren't willing to post your name implies to me that the accusations against you, are actually true, i'm not sure how you think this game works, but you don't banned because " people think i was aimbotting" i had a hacker attempt to get me banned by copying my name and hack other people because i made him angry, and guess what? i DIDNT get banned, because who gives a shit what other people think, it's a little more complicated then that.

[Mezamorphis]

[QUOTE=lolcatzuru;45023338]if your this good at the game you might wanna email FP about being a game tester, at least that way you will not only get your access back, but you'll also get paid... that would be the solution if you weren't actually aimbotting. I have no idea who you are but the fact that you weren't willing to post your name implies to me that the accusations against you, are actually true, i'm not sure how you think this game works, but you don't banned because " people think i was aimbotting" i had a hacker attempt to get me banned by copying my name and hack other people because i made him angry, and guess what? i DIDNT get banned, because who gives a shit what other people think, it's a little more complicated then that.[/QUOTE]
He is getting SERVER banned , not vac banned or cheatpunched . The aiming in this game is easy and he is right , good players get banned way too often and there is hardly any way to really prove you don't cheat . That's the game atm sadly but it's an alpha , it will change in time . Until then go play another game and come back after it's updated and see how it goes :)
Most of the people play on community and modded servers , there's hardly any reason to go official .
P.S: we are all game testers atm .

[RallyCar]

Maybe you should try your talents on other things outside of video games.. you won the Internet leave why your on top. If your hand eye coordination is that fantastic stop wasting your time on video games and look into becoming a surgeon. You owe it to humanity because you were given a rare gift from whatever god you do or don't believe in.

One thing to consider is this exact scenario has been seen plenty of times before on these boards and in the game. The super talented player just can't get a break. What seems to be ultimate outcome most of the time is that evidence is found or the player themselves finally admits to cheating. So understand our skepticism, especially when you come to the boards to tell us all about your struggles. Remember aimboting is not the only cheat and it can be easily turned on and off to try and fool other players of a legitimate kill. Even if your not using an aimbot but are using ESP, duck walk, or a recoil remover you still have given yourself an incredible advantage.

Remember your not actually beating anybody if your using any sort of cheat even if it's not an aimbot. A game is nothing more than a set of rules, if your not playing by the same rules then you can't beat them since your playing a different game. Don't say "king me" when your playing chess.

[hovergroovie]

I'd say that most every problem people have, aside from dealing with hackers, is solved by joining an official server.

After the update, the new round of anti-cheat should help the hacking problem for at very least 48 hours.

[AK42]

I hate reading things like, "...aiming in Rust is easy." or "...if you can't hit me then you're not that good."

I've been playing games since the early 80's and fps games since their inception in the early nineties. I consider myself to be an extremely experienced gamer. (yeah, I'm an old fogey at 38)

But, I am having a heck of a time winning in Rust. I have played over 900 hours and while I can build a fortress that would make any raider sick to his metaphorical stomach, I can not master the aiming.

I have played on numerous battlefield servers and I have sought out advice from all over the web and in-game, with very slim results.

Some people say that part of my problem could be my mouse, I use a trackball mouse. Others say that my aim sensitivity is too high.

I have tweaked my mouse settings to the nth degree and while it has improved my aim significantly, I am still nowhere near the level of the average 13 yo.

My budget does not allow me to buy a mega-gaming mouse, and I refuse to use tricks like gamma or macros. And I won't ever hack, 'cause I consider hackers to be even less skilled than I appear to be.

So, OP, TheStevieJ, I would ask that you share your setup and settings, please. What kind of mouse do you use, how large is your monitor (resolution, etc.)? What other, similar games did you play before playing Rust? And any other information that you think might be relevant.

I refuse to believe that skill alone can make such a big difference in Rust. I believe that I am missing out on some legitimate trick or tweak that will make all the difference for me.

[SKOL]

Go play COD instead. It sounds like that's the sort of action you're looking for - and your 'skillz' will be more at home in that environment.

[OtherDalfite]

[QUOTE=AK42;45027749]I hate reading things like, "...aiming in Rust is easy." or "...if you can't hit me then you're not that good."

I've been playing games since the early 80's and fps games since their inception in the early nineties. I consider myself to be an extremely experienced gamer. (yeah, I'm an old fogey at 38)

But, I am having a heck of a time winning in Rust. I have played over 900 hours and while I can build a fortress that would make any raider sick to his metaphorical stomach, I can not master the aiming.

I have played on numerous battlefield servers and I have sought out advice from all over the web and in-game, with very slim results.

Some people say that part of my problem could be my mouse, I use a trackball mouse. Others say that my aim sensitivity is too high.

I have tweaked my mouse settings to the nth degree and while it has improved my aim significantly, I am still nowhere near the level of the average 13 yo.

My budget does not allow me to buy a mega-gaming mouse, and I refuse to use tricks like gamma or macros. And I won't ever hack, 'cause I consider hackers to be even less skilled than I appear to be.

So, OP, TheStevieJ, I would ask that you share your setup and settings, please. What kind of mouse do you use, how large is your monitor (resolution, etc.)? What other, similar games did you play before playing Rust? And any other information that you think might be relevant.

I refuse to believe that skill alone can make such a big difference in Rust. I believe that I am missing out on some legitimate trick or tweak that will make all the difference for me.[/QUOTE]

I use an ancient Micro Innovations optical mouse that is probably meant for office work and I can consequently get kills both melee and distanced. It's all about finding a mouse that fits your hand. Other than that, it is skill. Hardware when gaming does not make a whole lot of difference, but then again you are using a trackball mouse. I highly recommend optical or laser.

[Seris]

[QUOTE=AK42;45027749]I hate reading things like, "...aiming in Rust is easy." or "...if you can't hit me then you're not that good."

I've been playing games since the early 80's and fps games since their inception in the early nineties. I consider myself to be an extremely experienced gamer. (yeah, I'm an old fogey at 38)

But, I am having a heck of a time winning in Rust. I have played over 900 hours and while I can build a fortress that would make any raider sick to his metaphorical stomach, I can not master the aiming.

I have played on numerous battlefield servers and I have sought out advice from all over the web and in-game, with very slim results.

Some people say that part of my problem could be my mouse, I use a trackball mouse. Others say that my aim sensitivity is too high.

I have tweaked my mouse settings to the nth degree and while it has improved my aim significantly, I am still nowhere near the level of the average 13 yo.

My budget does not allow me to buy a mega-gaming mouse, and I refuse to use tricks like gamma or macros. And I won't ever hack, 'cause I consider hackers to be even less skilled than I appear to be.

So, OP, TheStevieJ, I would ask that you share your setup and settings, please. What kind of mouse do you use, how large is your monitor (resolution, etc.)? What other, similar games did you play before playing Rust? And any other information that you think might be relevant.

I refuse to believe that skill alone can make such a big difference in Rust. I believe that I am missing out on some legitimate trick or tweak that will make all the difference for me.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this, I've been playing halo since I was 4 (I'm 16 now) and several other shooters on PC my whole life. I can go 26 to 6 in battlefield but I can hardly ever hit people in rust

[TheStevieJ]

My PC was a budget pc which has been given upgrades over time, my house is something called a Cobra. It's like some cheap £5 mouse, my processor is an FX 8120 and my gpu is a MSI R9 280x with 8gb ram.

The only thing I believe I have changed is the pointer precision thing in the mouse settings of windows I believe.

I'll probably end up eventually posting a video here, probably of a battlefield server because I really cannot be asked anymore gearing up in a survival server for a video to get banned after, because its a waste of my time.

Anyone or everyone who has hinted at me cheating in some way or another, I really don't, and I'm really trying not to sound big headed in any way, even though this is may what it sounds like, I'm just venting because I'm annoyed. Also whoever said go join official, it is flooded with hackers and I would rather not ruin my gaming experience on rust playing against hackers where no admins are there to do anything about it.

[Outback]

Rust is roughly like playing Counter-Strike games from what I've heard; the guns seem to be on the same type of system. Still pretty easy to play though, considering everything is hitscan; there are no projectile weapons except for the bow. The only thing that makes it remotely a challenge is the recoil.

[TheStevieJ]

I'm in the process of uploading a battlefield warm up video to youtube for you guys to see if I aimbot like I get banned for, not the best as the server was extremely laggy for me, and I hadnt played a lot since this post so needed to adjust from cs;go recoil to rust. Enjoy I suppose, should be linked within 30mins or so.

-Nevermind the rendering seemed to mess up somehow and the vid is like x3 times longer and all black lol, going to have to wait until I can figure this out

[TheStevieJ]

[video=youtube;c-0Qr5hG9Hc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-0Qr5hG9Hc&feature=youtu.be[/video]

There ya go, me warming up.