So I've been doing A LOT of research for the last week or 2 on servers who have corrupted admins. It's not worth your while to be playing on these servers because of the admin abuse/cheating.
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IF ANYONE WANTS VIDEOS OF THE ACCUSED CORRUPTEDNESS, I WILL BE WILLING TO PROVIDE IT IMMEDIATELY UPON REQUEST. My entire time spent the last while has been recording the abuse and corrupt admins. I will be providing a compilation of these servers, so you could avoid them.
Firstly) IF ANYONE says you are hacking on their server, you will automatically be banned from it - no questions asked, no proof given by the player whom accused you of such. So if I went ahead and said "x" is hacking on the server, he/she will be banned from it immediately - even if proof is not provided.
Secondly) Admins who are 'playing' on characters have an ABUNDANT of resources. Again, proof will be provided of such accusations - including recorded conversations.
Thirdly) These admins have 'admins' or moderators that are HACKING themselves in order to get around the map quicker to 'find' these so-called hackers. I don't disagree with this completely, but I do when the moderator whom is hacking is giving away other player's 'private/secret' locations in order to be raided easier. It's kind of funny when these moderators come and talk with you while they are 'checking things out,' to make sure YOU are not hacking *even though they are,* and an hour later you are being raided with 10+ C4.
Fourthly) Be cautious on which server you play on, seriously. Think about it. If you have a 'leet' group on ANY of these servers, then they are most likely hacking/cheating/exploiting/AND OR ADMINS! The reason is because all of these community and moderated servers are being wiped constantly right now because in due to the exploits going on.
Fifthly) If you plan on running your own server, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT*** go ahead and use other admin's banlists on these forums for your own. Over 50% of players whom have been 'accused' of hacking is due in part to the negligence of the admin actually taking the time to verify if indeed it was an exploit that has taken place, and instead has been immediately banned due to 'nervousness.'
Here is a compilation "THUS FAR" of corrupt servers. Hey, if the admins can provide a compilation of their banlists, why can we not provide a compilation of servers that are retarded in corruptedness.
Please feel free to add to this list as you seem fit,
Thanks for reading,
VV - Original Developer
***EDIT - Obviously, the *official* servers as of now are completely corrupted with hackers and it would be in your best interest to avoid them unless you are taking part in the development reporting for bugs/exploits/hacks etc.
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From personal experience "[East US]Active Admins/No Abuse/Events"
Infact does have "Abuse" and a shitload of hackers that the admins do not clean up effectively.
Another one: "Rust for gentlemen" or something similar in the name is also overrun with hackers and bad admins.
US element0 server is a great server! He bans hackers all day long, that is all he does. He doesn't abuse his admin or give players anything. I dont know why he is on your list, if you have been banned from it you must have been a hacker.
Oh btw element investigates every hacker call either himself or has one of the many people that work for him to find these people. So your post is invalid.
How did Element0.com end up on this list? Best private server out there, zero tolerance for hackers or glitchers. If you were banned from this server it's because you were found guilty of one or more of the following;
Cheating (using hack tools, modified software)
Glitching (using known game exploits like "duping")
Aiding and abetting known hackers (refusal to implicate, or share knowledge about a friend)
If you do not fit any of these criteria then you needn't worry.
The fact I found this server on your "discredited list" totally invalidates any research you claim to have done.
Like others have said. Element0 server being on your list invalidates this whole post. I played on about two dozen servers, he is the best admin I have found. If you got banned from his server it was for a valid reason.
As a member of the hacker extradition team from [B]Element0.com[/B], I would just like to say we handle [I]EVERY[/I] report against our players exactly the same as the next, and one before it. No one receives special treatment. That being said, if you were banned from the server [B]Element0.com[/B], it is either because a player reported you to the admins and the admins found you to be doing something in violation of server policies, [I]OR[/I] because while out patrolling I discovered you exploiting or hacking in some way shape or form and reported you to Element himself or one of the other admins.
I'm sorry for your poor experience in our server. However, don't add us to a list of servers that you say have "abusive admins" when we do everything we can to prevent the floods and floods of hackers that are destroying the official servers, from pouring in to our community.
[QUOTE=icedigger;43471256]As a member of the hacker extradition team from [B]Element0.com[/B], I would just like to say we handle [I]EVERY[/I] report against our players exactly the same as the next, and one before it. No one receives special treatment. That being said, if you were banned from the server [B]Element0.com[/B], it is either because a player reported you to the admins and the admins found you to be doing something in violation of server policies, [I]OR[/I] because while out patrolling I discovered you exploiting or hacking in some way shape or form and reported you to Element himself or one of the other admins.
I'm sorry for your poor experience in our server. However, don't add us to a list of servers that you say have "abusive admins" when we do everything we can to prevent the floods and floods of hackers that are destroying the official servers, from pouring in to our community.[/QUOTE]
You are all admins of elment0 and doing your best to make up for your server's mistakes. However, you are part of the 'elite' of this server and have taken advantage of new players. Proof will be provided for element0.com server upon request. We can then negotiate your server's behavior. Also, icedigger, are you not the one who is hacking on your admin's server as well right now in 'attempt' to find bad players/hackers? :)
Proof provided upon request.
Thanks,
VV
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Justiful;43471251]Like others have said. Element0 server being on your list invalidates this whole post. I played on about two dozen servers, he is the best admin I have found. If you got banned from his server it was for a valid reason.[/QUOTE]
I was never banned from this server. I found corruptedness in their teamspeak. Again, available upon request. Please avoid this server at all costs. Thanks.
VV
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=RustRewls;43471200]How did Element0.com end up on this list? Best private server out there, zero tolerance for hackers or glitchers. If you were banned from this server it's because you were found guilty of one or more of the following;
Cheating (using hack tools, modified software)
Glitching (using known game exploits like "duping")
Aiding and abetting known hackers (refusal to implicate, or share knowledge about a friend)
If you do not fit any of these criteria then you needn't worry.
The fact I found this server on your "discredited list" totally invalidates any research you claim to have done.[/QUOTE]
I was never banned from this server. The team here who claim to be moderators and/or admins have been caught in teamspeak of corruptedness.
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=MatTripp;43471162]US element0 server is a great server! He bans hackers all day long, that is all he does. He doesn't abuse his admin or give players anything. I dont know why he is on your list, if you have been banned from it you must have been a hacker.
Oh btw element investigates every hacker call either himself or has one of the many people that work for him to find these people. So your post is invalid.[/QUOTE]
Your admin does IN FACT give players items when he feels that he couldn't 'fix' a situation. He provided players who 'claimed' to have been hacked on this server items, in fact he gave items to 3 separate players whom I can accredit should you so desire. This will be a video recording of your admin giving items to players because he 'feels bad.'
We as server staff are virtually powerless against these hacks, and [B]EVERYONE[/B] in the Rust community knows it. That being said, I do use certain hacks to eradicate hackers from our server, but I do absolutely NOTHING to disrupt or hinder the game play of our community.
Yes, I would love to see some proof of whatever it is you are trying to claim.
I'm not worried about this "Proof" because it doesn't exist. What's ironic to me, is how you can slander a server for over prosecution of hackers or hacking affiliates. It's obvious you are sympathetic to the hacker's plight, and have no respect for decent admins doing their best with the limited tools they have to protect and reward the honest players. Essentially what your saying is, you want less active admins. Beware to anyone who reads this post...it was founded by a bitter hacker.
[QUOTE=icedigger;43471342]We as server staff are virtually powerless against these hacks, and [B]EVERYONE[/B] in the Rust community knows it. That being said, I do use certain hacks to eradicate hackers from our server, but I do absolutely NOTHING to disrupt or hinder the game play of our community.
Yes, I would love to see some proof of whatever it is you are trying to claim.[/QUOTE]
You just admitted to being a hacker on a server that you admin/moderate on,...I have nothing more to say.
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=RustRewls;43471370]I'm not worried about this "Proof" because it doesn't exist. What's ironic to me, is how you can slander a server for over prosecution of hackers or hacking affiliates. It's obvious you are sympathetic to the hacker's plight, and have no respect for decent admins doing their best with the limited tools they have to protect and reward the honest players. Essentially what your saying is, you want less active admins. Beware to anyone who reads this post...it was founded by a bitter hacker.[/QUOTE]
See above post re: icedigger.
I also implore you to research my name and see if I was ever banned from your server, in which I wasn't.
Also, the game is in alpha - therefore ALL servers will eventually wipe *MANY times* before the final release is provided. Thus, your whole essential idea of 'taking care of hackers' is somewhat appreciated but yet a bit farfetched because theoretically, ALL servers will WIPE BEFORE FINAL release. Admins have done their best *and I will not disagree with such statement* in attempting to control the hacking in the game. However, the game is in Alpha and some admins are taking their powers beyond the extreme because of this 'nervous jitter' that the next player on their server is a hacker, which I agree is probably a good 90% of the time, but what about the rest of the players who are legit and were falsely accused because of such statements from others? Nonetheless your server Element0.Com is beyond this because the administration/moderator team are in fact using exploits in the game itself and are corrupt.
I have NOT been banned from ANY of these servers. I have NEVER used any hacks in this game at any time nor do I care to. I am here to help the community of players whom seek good servers to play on. Essentially I am working for 'my guys' to find who are good to their players and who are not.
[QUOTE=VirtuousViper;43471378]You just admitted to being a hacker on a server that you admin/moderate on,...I have nothing more to say.[/QUOTE]
Even if you dont approve of what icedigger did for me personally it would be completely fine. How else would an admin find a no clip hacker in a rock? Exactly he most likely wont unless he sees the guy no clipping in there.
Concerning would be if Icedigger used the hacks in PvP or general gameplay to get an advantage over normal players.
[QUOTE=Pop.ch;43471420]Even if you dont approve of what icedigger did for me personally it would be completely fine. How else would an admin find a no clip hacker in a rock? Exactly he most likely wont unless he sees the guy no clipping in there.
Concerning would be if Icedigger used the hacks in PvP or general gameplay to get an advantage over normal players.[/QUOTE]
Icedigger has already done this for his 'clan' on your server. Best of luck. I am only providing the community subjective input which can be regarded as false or negatory. However based on my own plea, I am willing to provide proof with each statement I give.
[QUOTE=VirtuousViper;43471296]This will be a video recording of your admin giving items to players because he 'feels bad.'[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry I thought you said you had some evidence of a corrupt admin...when all you threaten to provide is proof that at least one admin cares. The more you post the more obvious it is, this was a targeted attack against Element0.com, and not a "two week research project" as you previously indicated.
If you want to make the gaming community better, you could report a single hacker, instead of attacking admins that are doing damage control, to salvage the gaming experience of those ravaged by hackers.
Here is a FACT
I would have QUIT Rust if it wasn't for element0 personally reaching out to me, to aid me after hackers had emptied my crates for the 3rd time in less than an hour.
Thankyou Element0 for making a great game even better!
[QUOTE=RustRewls;43471439]I'm sorry I thought you said you had some evidence of a corrupt admin...when all you threaten to provide is proof that at least one admin cares. The more you post the more obvious it is, this was a targeted attack against Element0.com, and not a "two week research project" as you previously indicated.
If you want to make the gaming community better, you could report a single hacker, instead of attacking admins that are doing damage control, to salvage the gaming experience of those ravaged by hackers.
Here is a FACT
I would have QUIT Rust if it wasn't for element0 personally reaching out to me, to aid me after hackers had emptied my crates for the 3rd time in less than an hour.
Thankyou Element0 for making a great game even better![/QUOTE]
This was in NO way to attack a specific server within this list. You are attacking me for making such accusations in which you have not been able to accredit yourselves for. See IceDigger's post on admitting to hacking in order 'to catch the hackers under the rocks.' Your server is corrupt just as much as the entire list above. Please say what you will but I have proof and have already provided it personally through messages as requested. Should you request any proof of your server being corrupt, please feel free to contact me directly in message so that I cannot be accused of slandering a specific person/thing/noun*.
VV~
If you have any proof you can post a YouTube link right here... we are eager to see it. Go defend hackers elsewhere, you'll find no sympathy here.
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
These Admins PAY money for THEIR servers, It's not YOUR server. Any admin can make any rule or exception with their PROPERTY. If an admin deems no racial slurs in general chat that is their prerogative. If an admin offers replacement for hacked items, who cares as long as he does it for everyone equally? If an admin deems it necessary for one moderator to speed hack, so he can catch up, and identify another speed hacker. So be it! Can you give me a better method for catching a speed hacker at regular speed? Wait for him to get close enough? This server has found the best possible way to please it's community in every regard. You sir are bitter. Still awaiting these two weeks of video footage....I could have edited, added intros/outros, and voice commentary 10 videos by now. I'm still waiting for you to STOP TALKING about proof, and actually provide some.
[QUOTE=RustRewls;43471558]If you have any proof you can post a YouTube link right here... we are eager to see it. Go defend hackers elsewhere, you'll find no sympathy here.
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
These Admins PAY money for THEIR servers, It's not YOUR server. Any admin can make any rule or exception with their PROPERTY. If an admin deems no racial slurs in general chat that is their prerogative. If an admin offers replacement for hacked items, who cares as long as he does it for everyone equally? If an admin deems it necessary for one moderator to speed hack, so he can catch up, and identify another speed hacker. So be it! Can you give me a better method for catching a speed hacker at regular speed? Wait for him to get close enough? This server has found the best possible way to please it's community in every regard. You sir are bitter. Still awaiting these two weeks of video footage....I could have edited, added intros/outros, and voice commentary 10 videos by now. I'm still waiting for you to STOP TALKING about proof, and actually provide some.[/QUOTE]
You are completely right! Admins DO in fact pay for these servers. Alas, I'm sorry you feel this way and as I've posted already, should you desire a copy of proof then please provide a request via messaging. I am not on this forum to slander and point fingers. I will not reveal any of this information publicly either. If you require a copy of such accusations on your specific server, please feel free to send the request via message.
As I must state, I have not been banned and/or accused on ANY server of hacking/cheating/exploiting. As I've already suggested, please feel free to confirm this via my steamID and/or your banlists.
Thank you,
VV~
[QUOTE=VirtuousViper;43471433]Icedigger has already done this for his 'clan' on your server. Best of luck. I am only providing the community subjective input which can be regarded as false or negatory. However based on my own plea, I am willing to provide proof with each statement I give.[/QUOTE]
Well that is another issue and if you have proof of him hacking on other servers you should report him as in fact then he is a hacker. He still is of course on his own server but if he uses it only as a method to catch other Hackers I would consider it less controversial.
[QUOTE=Pop.ch;43471651]Well that is another issue and if you have proof of him hacking on other servers you should report him as in fact then he is a hacker. He still is of course on his own server but if he uses it only as a method to catch other Hackers I would consider it less controversial.[/QUOTE]
You, good sir, should remain silent. Because it is against VAC/STEAM/FACEPUNCH' TOS to allow hacking and you are allowing an admin to break ALL of the ABOVE'S rules just to make yourself look better by ALLOWING him to hack through steam/facepunch's game. That doesn't make you look good. Sorry. However, in the long run, you will have to wipe anyway.
[QUOTE=VirtuousViper;43471696]You, good sir, should remain silent. Because it is against VAC/STEAM/FACEPUNCH' TOS to allow hacking and you are allowing an admin to break ALL of the ABOVE'S rules just to make yourself look better by ALLOWING him to hack through steam/facepunch's game. That doesn't make you look good. Sorry. However, in the long run, you will have to wipe anyway.[/QUOTE]
hey man not to butt in or anything. But you can't counter hackers right now and using hacks on his own server, that he pays for as a means to catch other hackers is a pretty good alternative idea. And when they fix the hacks then HE STOPS because he can't do it anymore anyways and he just used it on his server for catching hackers. Making the argument void
[QUOTE=VirtuousViper;43471696]You, good sir, should remain silent. Because it is against VAC/STEAM/FACEPUNCH' TOS to allow hacking and you are allowing an admin to break ALL of the ABOVE'S rules just to make yourself look better by ALLOWING him to hack through steam/facepunch's game. That doesn't make you look good. Sorry. However, in the long run, you will have to wipe anyway.[/QUOTE]
I know its against the ToS. Also I am not allowing him to do it as I have no affiliation with Element0 or Icedagger. They seem to be from the US and I play on european servers so I couldnt care less what happens to their server/admins.
I am just saying that if you have proof of him hacking on another server than his/theirs report him like you would do with a normal hacker as he is just that. If he does it on his own server under the premise to catch hackers its still against the ToS and he can be banned for it which I am sure he knows as well but he is doing it for the good of the server. The good of the server being that he can ban/see hackers that hide inside objects which otherwise would be very hard to catch.
Of course its a double edged sword as he might claim that he only uses it for catching other hackers but you can never be 100% sure of that.
By the looks of things you've just gone ahead and screenied your history.
[QUOTE=Pop.ch;43471741]I know its against the ToS. Also I am not allowing him to do it as I have no affiliation with Element0 or Icedagger. They seem to be from the US and I play on european servers so I couldnt care less what happens to their server/admins.
I am just saying that if you have proof of him hacking on another server than his/theirs report him like you would do with a normal hacker as he is just that. If he does it on his own server under the premise to catch hackers its still against the ToS and he can be banned for it which I am sure he knows as well but he is doing it for the good of the server. The good of the server being that he can ban/see hackers that hide inside objects which otherwise would be very hard to catch.
Of course its a double edged sword as he might claim that he only uses it for catching other hackers but you can never be 100% sure of that.[/QUOTE]
I play on Element's server myself and all he does is get rid of hackers, he spends all his time getting hackers and banning them. So far he is one of the best admins i have seen in a server, he doesnt take part in raids or pvp he just bans hackers and sometimes might build a base for the community to hold events.
Can also confirm Element0.com is a great server, best I have played on.
Snore
Private Servers suck because admins could always cheat. official server suck because most of the player cheat. So...
I'm going to jump in here. If you're going to slander servers and people, please provide some real evidence.
And people wonder why VAC doesn't ban on reports and/or why the devs don't get into banning.
[QUOTE=Little Tid;43471134]From personal experience "[East US]Active Admins/No Abuse/Events"
Infact does have "Abuse" and a shitload of hackers that the admins do not clean up effectively.
Another one: "Rust for gentlemen" or something similar in the name is also overrun with hackers and bad admins.[/QUOTE]
Was on Rust for Gentlemen last night. I had mixed thoughts on that. Some guy was clipped through a rock shooting my group with an Uber Hunting Bow, turned out not to be an admin and he got banned. On the other hand, they do run around in full invis armor a lot. Saw one, naked, in resource valley and tried to kill him with a hatchet but he started putting the armor on before I could reach him :/
Server admins are very limited currently in what they can do to combat hacking.
Partial invisibility, teleporting to observe and ban/kick are about all they have.
What does VirtuousViper propose that admins should do to prevent rampant hacking on their servers?
Q
[QUOTE=VirtuousViper;43471378]You just admitted to being a hacker on a server that you admin/moderate on,...I have nothing more to say.
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
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You sound like someone who is butthurt for being banned from a server. Get over yourself. There are a lot of abusive admins, but the line you've drawn for abusive is so far past biased against the admins that it's painful. Good admins are good, but make mistakes too. They don't deserve the kind of ridicule placed on them for WORKING while other players play.
[editline]9th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Quoetzl;43473327]Server admins are very limited currently in what they can do to combat hacking.
Partial invisibility, teleporting to observe and ban/kick are about all they have.
What does VirtuousViper propose that admins should do to prevent rampant hacking on their servers?
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