by god i hope these will be removed, imo they are not rust , they are over powered and feel tacky.
You look at the bolt action , revolver and Bow , they are Rust. (if you know what i mean)
i heard that Automatics like m4 and mp5 was gonna be removed , if this is true then imo rust is gonna move on like a rocket into space.
any way this is my 2cents , inb4 i get alot of hate. Everyone is entitled to there opinon.
I like the idea of removing those automatic weapons too :D
(mainly cuz i suck with shooting them as the recoil kills me. bow & arrow ftw)
Where is this crossbow you speak of?
Remove modern high-tech weapons and replace them with self made guns. No need to take away full auto weapons. Wouldn't mind it, though.
The devs indicate that they won't be removed entirely, just very hard to find and non-craftable. I'd like them to stay in some form, as it allows for a wider range of tactics for players.
[QUOTE=madhatterzz;43944783]by god i hope these will be removed, imo they are not rust , they are over powered and feel tacky.
You look at the bolt action , revolver and crossbow , they are Rust. (if you know what i mean)
i heard that Automatics like m4 and mp5 was gonna be removed , if this is true then imo rust is gonna move on like a rocket into space.
any way this is my 2cents , inb4 i get alot of hate. Everyone is entitled to there opinon.[/QUOTE] Your idea is dumb, at makes no sense! ITS A FUCKING SURVIVAL GAME, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO THE MOON?!?!?!?!?! And tacky fully automatic weapons? I think its unrealistic how you yourself can make an perfectly working m4, but do you even know what tacky means? And if you cant use those kind of weapons... Then that's your problem!
Extra: HOLY HELL, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR! IMO DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE, THE A IN AUTOMATICS DOESN'T FUCKING NEED CAPITALIZED UNLESS ITS BEGINNING A SENTENCE. Btw, there is no crossbow in rust! That's all though :D
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43944919]Your idea is dumb, at makes no sense! ITS A FUCKING SURVIVAL GAME, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO THE MOON?!?!?!?!?! And tacky fully automatic weapons? I think its unrealistic how you yourself can make an perfectly working m4, but do you even know what tacky means? And if you cant use those kind of weapons... Then that's your problem!
Extra: HOLY HELL, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR! IMO DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE, THE A IN AUTOMATICS DOESN'T FUCKING NEED CAPITALIZED UNLESS ITS BEGINNING A SENTENCE. Btw, there is no crossbow in rust! That's all though :D[/QUOTE]
You must be from south carolina
lol why all the rage newbie. yes its a survival game but im sure that a normal civilian wouldnt be able to grab a M4 or even learn how to craft one within 4/6 hours.
it may had more tactics but they are stupid. Rust is something unique and having guns that are in every other fps is just not right.
they don't feel like Rust where as i stated , the revolver and bolt action do feel like Rust.
((Also i will not correct my grammar or spelling as English isn't my strong language))
[QUOTE=burntpie;43944819]I like the idea of removing those automatic weapons too :D
(mainly cuz i suck with shooting them as the recoil kills me. bow & arrow ftw)[/QUOTE] Again, the same thing I told Madhat, that's your damn problem! If you cant shoot an automatic weapon in a game, and cant account for recoil, then I wouldn't suggest playing fps shooters in general.
shotgun / mp5 / m4 / c4 need to replace with analog 'old type' weapon's:
Shotgun == harpoon;
mp5 == ???;
m4 == ???;
c4 == barrel with gunpowder;
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43944962]Again, the same thing I told Madhat, that's your damn problem! If you cant shoot an automatic weapon in a game, and cant account for recoil, then I wouldn't suggest playing fps shooters in general.[/QUOTE]
If you don't like my post its your damn problem!
If you can't take posts like this I suggest not reading the forums with these things called 'opinions'
Not that I mind yours though.
Aesthetically they may be out of place, but on an island with irradiated animals and towns, automatic guns aren't that far fetched. Dirty them up a bit, like an AK-47 that was buried for the last 10 years; but I don't think they should go completely.
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43944919]Your idea is dumb, at makes no sense! ITS A FUCKING SURVIVAL GAME, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO THE MOON?!?!?!?!?! And tacky fully automatic weapons? I think its unrealistic how you yourself can make an perfectly working m4, but do you even know what tacky means? And if you cant use those kind of weapons... Then that's your problem!
Extra: HOLY HELL, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR! IMO DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE, THE A IN AUTOMATICS DOESN'T FUCKING NEED CAPITALIZED UNLESS ITS BEGINNING A SENTENCE. Btw, there is no crossbow in rust! That's all though :D[/QUOTE]
Jeepers, rage is clearly an issue for you kiddo. Rust is not for you sonny.
[QUOTE=madhatterzz;43944957]lol why all the rage newbie. yes its a survival game but im sure that a normal civilian wouldnt be able to grab a M4 or even learn how to craft one within 4/6 hours.
it may had more tactics but they are stupid. Rust is something unique and having guns that are in every other fps is just not right.
they don't feel like Rust where as i stated , the revolver and bolt action do feel like Rust.
((Also i will not correct my grammar or spelling as English isn't my strong language))[/QUOTE] First of all, newbie? Exactly, if I give you criticism that makes me a noob, and the devs first in visioned Rust to be a hybrid of Minecraft, and Dayz. An example of this, Minecraft: Able to build houses, gather materials, and craft| Dayz: Able to find supplies in random crates, (zombies till removed), weapons like an m4, bolt action rifle, etc. The reason that the guns, to you, don't feel like "Rust", is because the weapons you can find, and also craft, look like they just came out of assembly, in some factory! They look pristine, and brand new, and it doesn't make sense! But, since it is a hybrid of those two games, it will stay like that!
Didn't know English wasn't your first language, sorry.
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[QUOTE=burntpie;43945020]If you don't like my post its your damn problem!
If you can't take posts like this I suggest not reading the forums with these things called 'opinions'
Not that I mind yours though.[/QUOTE] You have the right to your opinion, but if you cant take criticism, then leave! And i never said that i didn't like your post, i'm just giving it constructive criticism.
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43945071]First of all, newbie? Exactly, if I give you criticism that makes me a noob, and the devs first in visioned Rust to be a hybrid of Minecraft, and Dayz. An example of this, Minecraft: Able to build houses, gather materials, and craft| Dayz: Able to find supplies in random crates, (zombies till removed), weapons like an m4, bolt action rifle, etc. The reason that the guns, to you, don't feel like "Rust", is because the weapons you can find, and also craft, look like they just came out of assembly, in some factory! They look pristine, and brand new, and it doesn't make sense! But, since it is a hybrid of those two games, it will stay like that!
Didn't know English wasn't your first language, sorry.
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firstly your new here @February 2014
Also you dont think i not know where they going with rust? I have played along side Helk *who is a dev btw* and have spoken with him along side a friend of mine called Xant about Rust.
But i hope you understand where i am comming from , reason i said m4's and mp5's feel tacky is because they dont have that Rust feel or look whereas the hand cannon , bow , bolt action and revolver do.
i just think things should be hard to find and even harder to craft.
Sorry for any misunderstanding , hope you understand
[QUOTE=SgtSinge;43945063]Jeepers, rage is clearly an issue for you kiddo. Rust is not for you sonny.[/QUOTE] Thanks grandpa, now go shit yourself, and take your pills :) silly old people! And i'm not raging, i'm a little bit frustrated that noobs want the game dumb'ed down because bandits killed them for the 30th time!
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[QUOTE=madhatterzz;43945125]firstly your new here @February 2014
Also you dont think i not know where they going with rust? I have played along side Helk *who is a dev btw* and have spoken with him along side a friend of mine called Xant about Rust.
But i hope you understand where i am comming from , reason i said m4's and mp5's feel tacky is because they dont have that Rust feel or look whereas the hand cannon , bow , bolt action and revolver do feel like Rust.
Sorry for any misunderstanding , hope you understand[/QUOTE] Yea, I understand. Crafting a pristine m4 from scratch is stupid, but at the end of the day, its a game!
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43945127]Thanks grandpa, no go shit yourself, and take your pills :) silly old people! And i'm not raging, i'm a little bit frustrated that noobs want the game dumb'ed down because bandits killed them for the 30th time!
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Yea, I understand. Crafting a pristine m4 from scratch is stupid, but at the end of the day, its a game![/QUOTE]
True , it is a game but yet without us posting these type of things , the game would not get molded by the community.
Also i am far from a noob , ive been gaming for 11 years , i get killed quite alot on rust by bandits but then again ive had my fair share of kills. Rust is a dog eat dog game :)
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43945127]Thanks grandpa, now go shit yourself, and take your pills :) silly old people! And i'm not raging, i'm a little bit frustrated that noobs want the game dumb'ed down because bandits killed them for the 30th time![/QUOTE]
LOL - you take frustration to a whole new level. Like you said, its just a game kiddo.
Cheers, from the grandpa :)
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43944919]Your idea is dumb, at makes no sense! ITS A FUCKING SURVIVAL GAME, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO THE MOON?!?!?!?!?! And tacky fully automatic weapons? I think its unrealistic how you yourself can make an perfectly working m4, but do you even know what tacky means? And if you cant use those kind of weapons... Then that's your problem!
Extra: HOLY HELL, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR! IMO DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE, THE A IN AUTOMATICS DOESN'T FUCKING NEED CAPITALIZED UNLESS ITS BEGINNING A SENTENCE. Btw, there is no crossbow in rust! That's all though :D[/QUOTE]
bahhaha as i read this i got this vivid image of you wearing a bib a bonnet and a diaper slamming on the keyboard and wailing crying like a true baby bitch
the modern warfare generation, ladies & gents
Just make the weapons homemade / garage made weaponry. Then keep the existing "military grade" (whatever that means) weapons but have them be rare and possibly incapable of being crafted / very hard to craft / or very hard to maintain (when they finally add in durability). Only get them from things like airdrops or very rare crate spawns. Finally make them ever so slightly better / more reliable / higher durability than their homemade counterparts. Also would be really nice if they didn't make them left-handed. Looks rather goofy to have the chamber on the left side. I know it's done for aesthetics and sure in reality you can get left ejecting variants of most of those guns (not all) it's just rather odd.
i still think everything should be black powder.
I would love to see a Thompson Submachine Gun.
A Thompson is still a weapon that requires more of a dedicated assembly setup to make than something easy like a Sten gun or a Grease gun. Those things were very quick and easy to make. So I'd expect the MP5 to be replaced by some kind of similar open bolt system firearm. In addition the Thompson would require .45 ACP ammo to be "accurate" so they'd either have to add that (which could be kinda cool) or they'd have to make it use 9mm.
Why not a instagib or a lightsaber made of wood and rock ? lol. Its simple, rock-make knife, harpoon, rock and wood made weapon. How the hell can we give a logic of a gun made of alluminium with a hollographic system made of some wood and metal ?
my english isnt my primary language
But think, The game developers will get like 2k replies on thier page just askeng whered the gns go whhered they go?
they have already had well over 2k replies requesting that they be phased out, which has always been the plan.
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43945127] Yea, I understand. Crafting a pristine m4 from scratch is stupid, but at the end of the day, its a game![/QUOTE]
That's all well and good but "at the end of the day" these are the official forums for Rust and we want feedback here in order to improve the game for the future. To say "it's just a game" does not help us. Rather than flaming people for disagreeing with you, how about you actually put together a decent counter-argument.
Nothing wrong with full auto weapons. Top end should be something more like an AK47 though. AK is primitive enough to match the setting I think. Replace the MP5 with like an STG88 maybe. Shotgun function wise is fine, but maybe a double barrel would make more sense, not an 8 slot reload. Pistols IMHO should go away, P250 is really powerful, crazy range and damage. Revolver is perfect as well as the rest.
[QUOTE=ahotes09;43945071]First of all, newbie? Exactly, if I give you criticism that makes me a noob, and the devs first [B][U]in visioned[/U][/B] Rust to be a hybrid of Minecraft, and Dayz. [/QUOTE]
You raged on someone because they did not use proper english, but you can not spell [B]ENVISIONED[/B] correctly. [B][I]Constructive[/I][/B] criticism is not battering someone with insults and giving no argument as to why their idea is a bad one. You said the OP was a noob who couldn't handle the recoil so he should quit. But the issue here is not that a player is not skilled with these weapons, but that the weapons do not fit in with Rust's style.
Changing them out with more rustic/historic weapons would be a good idea in [U]my opinion[/U]. It would make Rust feel more...rusty.
I just edited my loot table to remove military weapons:
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1352056[/url]
Lootable/craftable weapons:
HandCannon
Pipe Shotgun
Revolver
You can still find the bolt-action , super rare tho.
And the shotgun will have a chance to drop in airdrops
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