Helicopters need to be changed. - Rust

Simply put, before the update i played Rust almost every night, since the update ive played it maybe 3 times. I love the helicopters, they are a great addition to the game and should be kept. However, they should be changed somewhat. I feel that it is wrong that i should be killed by the Helicopter unless i am in possession of firearms or explosives. I was motivated to adapt to the addition of helicopters, as a solo player of PVE, but my last experience/encounter with the helicopter motivated me to write this post. I was wearing: Hide Poncho Hide Pants Hide Boots Hide Vest Leather Gloves Candle Hat I was carrying: Stone Hatchet Stone Pickaxe Stone Spear Bandage Map Hammer Building Plan general resources & materials i had been playing for an hour, i had not started a base. i moved to an airdrop while the heli was around. i viewed it - it contained a sword, a stone wall, a quarry & survey charges. i did not take any of it, out of fear for carrying a sword in the presence of the heli. i died via missiles. i am not very motivated to play rust anymore, which is sad, since i considered it one of the best games id ever played up until now. I'm not interested in what it was that killed me, I simply feel that i should not have been attacked. I just wanted my opinion heard. Please change this. Thanks.

u remember this game isn't finished yet?

You hear the helicopter from distance and you should run the other direction. As extreme measure you can temporarily drop your weapons (including hatchets) to avoid getting attacked. It's a survival game where you need to learn what to do and what not to do. You learned and I'm pretty sure next time you will not die from the helicopter.

IMHO carry some wood and a building plan OR a sleeping bag with you at all times. When I hear the chopper I typically just make a twig 1x1 and hide in it. A sleeping bag can be used in those cases where you aggro it by accident.. let it kill you, wait a min and spawn back and make that twig 1x1 :)

I was completely naked and carrying only my rock, torch, a bow, and maybe 10 arrows. I went to try to loot some corpses near the helicopter, and it killed me. Either carrying a bow will make you a valid target for the helicopter, or it will attack anyone who gets too close during a firefight no matter what you are carrying. I haven't had another chance to test this as a true naked. Has anyone ever been killed by the helicopter with only a rock and torch?

The vast majority of people I've heard complain about the helicopter have been PVE'ers. That's pretty astounding at first glance, considering they finally added an "E" worth lifting a brow at and it's the PVE'ers, not the PVP'ers, that are up in arms. Considering the next most dangerous NPC in the game is a slow-moving bear who can be killed with a stone spear and 3/4 health, I have to assume that the PVE'ers who dislike the chopper's aggression aren't actually interested in "PVE" at all... they're actually pacifists who want to be left alone completely to pick off dumb animals with a bow. Perhaps it would be better if Facepunch simply updates the description of the helicopter in the devblog so people don't assume they can strip naked and run for an airdrop in complete safety, so everyone could be prepared to keep their head up and run for cover [B]before[/B] it's passing over them.

In fact my biggest issue with the chopper is that it runs off after a certain time. Twice this week we almost killed one (me and a buddy) but it ran off like a few bullets before going down. IMHO so long as it's being shot at it shouldn't go away.

[QUOTE=Murdo;48867405]The vast majority of people I've heard complain about the helicopter have been PVE'ers. That's pretty astounding at first glance, considering they finally added an "E" worth lifting a brow at and it's the PVE'ers, not the PVP'ers, that are up in arms. Considering the next most dangerous NPC in the game is a slow-moving bear who can be killed with a stone spear and 3/4 health, I have to assume that the PVE'ers who dislike the chopper's aggression aren't actually interested in "PVE" at all... they're actually pacifists who want to be left alone completely to pick off dumb animals with a bow. Perhaps it would be better if Facepunch simply updates the description of the helicopter in the devblog so people don't assume they can strip naked and run for an airdrop in complete safety, so everyone could be prepared to keep their head up and run for cover [B]before[/B] it's passing over them.[/QUOTE] Was just about to write something similar, haha. It's truly ironic that they add a challenging PVE element to the game and the self proclaimed PVE'ers are bitching about it. Bigger challenges like the helicopter are what leads to people working together. If you let every idiot that runs towards an attack helicopter live, then people are just going to PVP that much harder. [QUOTE='Deicide[RS];48867872']In fact my biggest issue with the chopper is that it runs off after a certain time. Twice this week we almost killed one (me and a buddy) but it ran off like a few bullets before going down. IMHO so long as it's being shot at it shouldn't go away.[/QUOTE] This makes absolutely no sense. Why would the helicopter hover there letting you shoot at it. If anything it should dodge and switch areas more to prevent it from getting shot down easily.

[QUOTE=wshnaek;48866911]I was completely naked and carrying only my rock, torch, [B]A BOW[/B], and... [U]Has anyone ever been killed by the helicopter with only a rock and torch?[/U][/QUOTE] How come you only had a rock and torch when you actually had a ranged weapon. Though, yes, what can bow do to the helicopter, but that's another question. The thing is, having a bow and arrows ≠ just a rock and torch (sry to come out picky here, but that's just how it works atm)

[QUOTE=Thulf Waatu;48869939]How come you only had a rock and torch when you actually had a ranged weapon. Though, yes, what can bow do to the helicopter, but that's another question. The thing is, having a bow and arrows ≠ just a rock and torch (sry to come out picky here, but that's just how it works atm)[/QUOTE] Stop being pedantic. The chopper will shoot at you regardless of what you are carrying.

Been wandering around on servers with helicopters. Never been attacked unless I had at least a revolver and a bow. So no, it won't shoot you regardless of what you're carrying.

It has attacked me whilst I was naked and only had a metal hatchet in my hotbar. Things of this magnitude will always take some balancing.

I understand some people like the idea of having to adapt to survive, I do too but I do think the heli should only attack targets that have a gun (maybe not eoka or pipey), armour (road sign, metal), shoot at it (with anything), hang around an active gun fight area or are carrying explosives. The devs said it will attack 'geared' players but it mows down everyone in sight. Just my opinion though I know it's an alpha.

Yeah they should only have it attack if you are in possession of any item made from HQM imo.

i think they should just attack anyone they detect. how are you going to see if a player has a HQM weapon in their hand from 200m away? besides, it makes it simple. helicopter is not your friend, run, hide or fight if you can. there is no being ignored.

I agree they should just attack anyone. They should maybe give a warning when they're about to spawn in and if you're nearby you should run like hell whether you're naked or geared. I mean the helicopter is here to gun people down, it make no sense to me that they'd only target geared people (I get it was done for some semblance of balance) but not shooting nakeds seems weird. Surely if all they want to do is kill people the heli crew wouldn't care if your naked or not, you're just a target to them.

When it was added, it was mentioned it would more than likely need to be tweaked. I think it shouldn't be able to be downed, and there should be more of them. Everyone pisses and moans about how boring Rust gets and there's nothing to do. Now there is a helicopter that you can't defend easily against and everyone is pissing and moaning about how unfair it is.

[QUOTE=Thulf Waatu;48869939]How come you only had a rock and torch when you actually had a ranged weapon. Though, yes, what can bow do to the helicopter, but that's another question. The thing is, having a bow and arrows ≠ just a rock and torch (sry to come out picky here, but that's just how it works atm)[/QUOTE] You misunderstood my post. I never said I only had a rock and a torch. I stated exactly everything that I had. That's why I asked if anyone has been killed with only a rock and a torch, because I haven't had a chance to go near the helicopter with only a rock and a torch. Basically what I want to know is, is there any way to scavenge the bodies of the people the helicopter kills without it attacking you.

What's next? Bears and wolves need to be changed! They attack unarmed people!

i tried to take the heli down. Watched a video of a guy doing that. So i made alot ammo, rockets, armor and stuff...and started the fight...! I was dead after like 10 seconds...so that means: 1.) the heli is too strong 2.) i suck

[QUOTE=mrknifey;48871964]i think they should just attack anyone they detect. how are you going to see if a player has a HQM weapon in their hand from 200m away? besides, it makes it simple. helicopter is not your friend, run, hide or fight if you can. there is no being ignored.[/QUOTE] This

[QUOTE=RageKwit;48885274]This[/QUOTE] That's true a heli isn't your friend, and more to the point we still don't know exactly what rust is. Is it some twisted form of the Truman show? If so then the heli is the perfect pain bringer!

Oh hey lets add a helicopter that wrecks you if you have valuable gear...yeah cause i wanna work hard in this game just to get torn up by some flying ai death machine....heli killed rust for me...

[QUOTE=FraktaL;48887407]Oh hey lets add a helicopter that wrecks you if you have valuable gear...yeah cause i wanna work hard in this game just to get torn up by some flying ai death machine....heli killed rust for me...[/QUOTE] Why complain on the forums? Why don't you, Bedtime Bear, Birthday Bear, Cheer Bear, Friend Bear, Funshine Bear and all the rest of the clan chip in and pool your "Belly Magic", then rent a modded server with no helicopters, no PVP, passive animals and half-damage on cold water. [I]One of [/I]your problems: solved.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan;48884511]i tried to take the heli down. Watched a video of a guy doing that. So i made alot ammo, rockets, armor and stuff...and started the fight...! I was dead after like 10 seconds...so that means: 1.) the heli is too strong 2.) i suck[/QUOTE] The answer is 2. I duo'ed it with a clan member several times this week after the buff. We didn't die once. I just put a bunch of high walls in a field and would use them as protection. My other clan members was in a rock formation forming a "bowl" that was just perfect for him to dodge all attacks. No napalm blanket was ever fired...