So when I was launching rust I clicked on windowed mode and ever since than whenever I try to adjust my gamma in catalyst control center it doesn't work in rust. I tried on other games and the gamma works normal but in Rust I can't adjust the gamma at all it just doesn't work.
It's kind of the point, your not supposed to turn up your gamma and see easy in the dark.
Good. The game is dark for a reason.
Your answers are pathetic. I asked for help and u come here acting all smart like u don't use gamma. The game is unplayable without it because 95% of the players use it. If the game was suppost to be dark for a reason dev's should have fixed the gamma issue,go act smart somewhere else if you're not going to help thanks.
Yes, using a known exploit "because everyone's doing it" is the best way to do things. You come on here asking for help when trying to abuse an exploit and get pissy when people tell you no? LMAO
I don't use gamma. In fact, the last time I played the game I feel like most people didn't. That's because when I played the nights were pitch black and gamma didn't make any difference.
Also, I don't care for cheating. People will surely disagree with me here, but cranking up your gamma to have an [B]unfair advantage[/B] over people who have not is cheating to me.
The people who don't have their gamma are at [B]UNFAIR DISADVANTAGE.[/B] Not the other way around.
[QUOTE=Gragos;45683492]The people who don't have their gamma are at [B]UNFAIR DISADVANTAGE.[/B] Not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
you could say the same for people who aren't hacking. it doesn't make it fair.
but look at it this way. if the gamma exploit doesn't work for you, odds are its not gonna work for anyone else either;)
[url]http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/calibrate-your-display[/url]
At 3rd or 4th step of calibration there's a slider for gamma. Turn it up and play the game. Once you're done playing just hit cancel in the calibration window and it goes back to your former settings.
Sure, some people may call this cheating but it is not that clear. This is monitor calibration and not all monitors are created equal. It also depends on the environment in which you are using the PC.
I had a monitor which after a couple of years use became very dark. It worked fine but the gamma was too low to watch movies or play games. Had to turn it way up to make it look normal.
Mofo, turning up your gamma to look normal and cranking it up to see at night in a game that's supposed to be dark are two different things.
Gragos, you basically just validated the use of hacks. "The people who don't [use hacks] are at an [B]UNFAIR DISADVANTAGE.[/B]"
[QUOTE=Gragos;45683492]The people who don't have their gamma are at [B]UNFAIR DISADVANTAGE.[/B] Not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
Maybe if you're bad at rust, but otherwise there are ways to play around it.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;45688429]Mofo, turning up your gamma to look normal and cranking it up to see at night in a game that's supposed to be dark are two different things.
Gragos, you basically just validated the use of hacks. "The people who don't [use hacks] are at an [B]UNFAIR DISADVANTAGE.[/B]"[/QUOTE]
How are we supposed to know how dark it should get during the night? Should it be pitch black or should we still be able to see a bit?
When I first played rust I didnt change my gamma setting but since then I have been killed more and more at night at times where I couldnt see 5 meters in from of me. Btw I found that using fullscreen and gamma works. I dont use it much but when I know others are i do. I try to be fair and not use it but sometimes you cant play fair when your enemies arent going to either.
[QUOTE=Gragos;45682651]Your answers are pathetic. I asked for help and u come here acting all smart like u don't use gamma. The game is unplayable without it because 95% of the players use it. If the game was suppost to be dark for a reason dev's should have fixed the gamma issue,go act smart somewhere else if you're not going to help thanks.[/QUOTE]
So you have the same reasoning people who utilize hacks do. "Everyone else is using it, so I want to even the playing field."
Ive used raised gamma. Its cheap yes, but I watched the movie "It" too often to go anywhere where the lights aren't on.
[QUOTE=MofoJones;45690665]How are we supposed to know how dark it should get during the night? Should it be pitch black or should we still be able to see a bit?[/QUOTE]
Maybe just set gamma to the default level and leave it there? That seems like the obvious choice.
The nights used to be pitch black, they aren't anymore so I believe you should be able to see at least a little bit.
I realize that it's not very fair since everyone else is doing it but in my opinion you're just making yourself just as bad as them when you do the same thing, then YOU'RE the one being unfair.
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Frankly, I wish they'd just go back to pitch black nights and negate this whole issue.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;45698199]Maybe just set gamma to the default level and leave it there? That seems like the obvious choice.
The nights used to be pitch black, they aren't anymore so I believe you should be able to see at least a little bit.
I realize that it's not very fair since everyone else is doing it but in my opinion you're just making yourself just as bad as them when you do the same thing, then YOU'RE the one being unfair.
[editline]15th August 2014[/editline]
Frankly, I wish they'd just go back to pitch black nights and negate this whole issue.[/QUOTE]
Experimental looks kinda "darker" than the legacy rust though. If i'm not mistaken they had a plan to make gamma usage kinda worthless. The same tatic CoD use or bf4 i think... I may be wrong :| it was like 6 months ago they had a trello card about this.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;45698199]Maybe just set gamma to the default level and leave it there? That seems like the obvious choice.
The nights used to be pitch black, they aren't anymore so I believe you should be able to see at least a little bit.
I realize that it's not very fair since everyone else is doing it but in my opinion you're just making yourself just as bad as them when you do the same thing, then YOU'RE the one being unfair.
[editline]15th August 2014[/editline]
Frankly, I wish they'd just go back to pitch black nights and negate this whole issue.[/QUOTE]
There's no such thing as "default" gamma. Sure, on software level you can set that but every monitor has it's own natural "brightness". That's why people calibrate monitors when they work with graphics - all monitors have different colors and brightness levels. Which can also change over time.
It will never be equal to anyone just because you leave it on default.
[QUOTE=MofoJones;45700760]There's no such thing as "default" gamma. Sure, on software level you can set that but every monitor has it's own natural "brightness". That's why people calibrate monitors when they work with graphics - all monitors have different colors and brightness levels. Which can also change over time.
It will never be equal to anyone just because you leave it on default.[/QUOTE]
Brightness and gamma are two different things. And I never said everyone's will be exactly the same, but I feel like anyone could figure out a pretty much "average" level that doesn't make their desktop all whitewashed and makes the game actually dark.
Or you could keep coming up with silly reasons to allow yourself to keep cheating, doesn't matter to me.
If you actually turn up the gamma to get an advantage in Rust you are the lowest scum of the Earth.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;45701016]Brightness and gamma are two different things. And I never said everyone's will be exactly the same, but I feel like anyone could figure out a pretty much "average" level that doesn't make their desktop all whitewashed and makes the game actually dark.
Or you could keep coming up with silly reasons to allow yourself to keep cheating, doesn't matter to me.[/QUOTE]
Gamma is a part of overall brightness. You can't work out an average. If something is not supposed to be visible - don't render it. If it is rendered - it is supposed to be seen. If it is still not visible - turn up your gamma.
I don't need to come up with any reasons to turn up or to not to turn up my gamma. As long as the game allows it I don't give a crap what anyone thinks.
I'm a seasoned quake 2 and 3 player. There everybody tweaks their game config to best suit their hardware, eyes and hands. Everybody would force bright colored fat enemy models so they could see better and react faster. I don't see a problem with that as long as everyone has the same tools available at their disposal.
Now using cheats and hacks is a different story because it gives you advantages over other players that they can't have in any circumstance no matter what they do legitimately.
People seriously stop being such pretentious smartasses.
The majority of regular Rust players use the gamma slider ironically provided by Windows.
You can't blame players for using it because it's a fucking Windows feature free to everyone to use... If you wanna be mad at someone for it be mad at the devs for not thinking about this before putting the game in alpha. Then again, they're working on an awesome new version of Rust for good reasons :).
I mean.. just tell the guy how to do it and get it over with seriously, nearly everyone knows and uses it and we can all agree that this kind of way of getting an advantage is on a completely different level than cheats such as aimbot/speedhack/flyhack/jumphack/noclip/norecoil/ESP -.-
Turning up gamma is cheating (and so is turning off grass, since we're on the subject.) If you're going to do it, at least have the decency to admit you're a cheater.
[QUOTE=Doogla;45711735]Turning up gamma is cheating (and so is turning off grass, since we're on the subject.) If you're going to do it, at least have the decency to admit you're a cheater.[/QUOTE]
How is it cheating if the game developers made it a free to use feature? How is it cheating if it's a standard windows feature to change your display settings to whatever suits you. You cannot blame the one doing it, there's nothing "illegal" or "unfair" about it. Yes it gives you an advantage, an advantage EVERYONE can use at their own free will without getting any punishment.
[QUOTE=Falxhor;45712684]How is it cheating if the game developers made it a free to use feature? How is it cheating if it's a standard windows feature to change your display settings to whatever suits you. You cannot blame the one doing it, there's nothing "illegal" or "unfair" about it. Yes it gives you an advantage, an advantage EVERYONE can use at their own free will without getting any punishment.[/QUOTE]
It may not be cheating but it's cheap as hell and you have no honor in your family if you do it.
[QUOTE=Falxhor;45712684]How is it cheating if the game developers made it a free to use feature? How is it cheating if it's a standard windows feature to change your display settings to whatever suits you. You cannot blame the one doing it, there's nothing "illegal" or "unfair" about it. Yes it gives you an advantage, an advantage EVERYONE can use at their own free will without getting any punishment.[/QUOTE]
It's not illegal, but if they wanted you to be able to see at night without a torch or a flashlight, they wouldn't have made it so dark. You're a cheater. Just accept it and move on.
I understand both sides of the argument.
I refused to turn up my gamma for quite a while. I felt like it was a cheap tactic and took away from the overall experience of the game. I remember making sure I was in my house by nightfall because it was so fucking dark. Sometimes I was forced to hide in the rocks during the pitch blackness. BOOM, all of a sudden dead. Running along the map guiding yourself back home by the silhouettes of the rocks and mountains, then gunned down 50+ meters away.
Fuck. That.
Gamma time it is. First time I saw the night time with gamma jacked up I literally said, "Holy shit, this is cheats." It really is ridiculous. I do not use it for the advantage of killing people at night. I don't hunt down bambis or even geared people at night. I use gamma to put me on an equal playing field with those that have their gamma up as well. It's pretty obvious when someone shoots at you from a distance that their gamma is cranked up. I have to defend myself somehow.
Before people say "Would you buy hacks to put yourself on a level playing field with actual cheaters?" Of fucking course not, I am not an idiot. Turning gamma up and using an actual hack to cheat in a game are two very different things that can walk a fine line.
agreed tastyslug. i have used my gamma. but to be honest, i stopped because i feel like it ruins the immersion of the game. to me, it was cheating because it made things easier. so when i was using it, it was for night harvesting to build a base and sneaking into hostile rad sites, not for raiding players and hunting nakeds.
but even though it CAN be done doesn't make it a fair play method. you can build a foundation over a sleeping bag in legacy and have an invincible base. you can use sleeping bags and respawn to break into a base. you can build a thousand ramps on the one block... but that is exploiting weaknesses in the game, not playing as the game is "intended" to be played, and some people consider that cheating. and in the simplest sense, those people will not want to play with you.
regardless of "cheat" or "exploit" or "legitimate tactic", i will not be sad to see gamma abuse negated so we can all be scared in the dark together;)
[QUOTE=Doogla;45713301]It's not illegal, but if they wanted you to be able to see at night without a torch or a flashlight, they wouldn't have made it so dark. You're a cheater. Just accept it and move on.[/QUOTE]
It's a windows feature... come on.. "I'm a cheater" are you serious? You're going to fucking cry about this when there's thousands of real cheaters out there using aimbots/speedhacks/ESP etc. etc.
Because that's really unproportional, even if this was "cheating" it's on a completely different level. When this game became more an FPS than a survival game for the majority of players (including those on vanilla servers) evening the odds became something normal and I'd even go as far as to say necessary if you want to play at night... I don't even think it's "cheap" when everyone who focusses on FPS'ing people uses it because you'll be at such a big disadvantage at night if you want to do the same..
Sure the argument that just because everyone does it doesn't necessarily make it right for you to do it as well and I know you shouldn't do it according to some ethical points of view. But really guys, it is the last thing in the current Rust you should be crying about.
Dying in Rust has big consequences so decreasing your chances of dying by using a standard windows feature that everyone else uses, to me, seems justified, if you don't wanna get fucked in the dark you don't really have a choice.
It should NOT be Gamma users people should be frustrated about when there's so many bigger game breaking issues.
I agree it would be best if Gamma wouldn't have influences on whether or not you can see in the dark and I hope they work on this for the new Rust.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;45682746]I don't use gamma. In fact, the last time I played the game I feel like most people didn't. That's because when I played the nights were pitch black and gamma didn't make any difference.
Also, I don't care for cheating. People will surely disagree with me here, but cranking up your gamma to have an [B]unfair advantage[/B] over people who have not is cheating to me.[/QUOTE]
Try running around at night on a high pop server with gamma turned up.
I think the number of people you'll see who are clearly using gamma themselves will be quite eye-opening...
[QUOTE=Falxhor;45715597]It's a windows feature... come on.. "I'm a cheater" are you serious? You're going to fucking cry about this when there's thousands of real cheaters out there using aimbots/speedhacks/ESP etc. etc.
Because that's really unproportional, even if this was "cheating" it's on a completely different level. When this game became more an FPS than a survival game for the majority of players (including those on vanilla servers) evening the odds became something normal and I'd even go as far as to say necessary if you want to play at night... I don't even think it's "cheap" when everyone who focusses on FPS'ing people uses it because you'll be at such a big disadvantage at night if you want to do the same..
Sure the argument that just because everyone does it doesn't necessarily make it right for you to do it as well and I know you shouldn't do it according to some ethical points of view. But really guys, it is the last thing in the current Rust you should be crying about.
Dying in Rust has big consequences so decreasing your chances of dying by using a standard windows feature that everyone else uses, to me, seems justified, if you don't wanna get fucked in the dark you don't really have a choice.
It should NOT be Gamma users people should be frustrated about when there's so many bigger game breaking issues.
I agree it would be best if Gamma wouldn't have influences on whether or not you can see in the dark and I hope they work on this for the new Rust.[/QUOTE]
You're arguing that you are not, on a standard viewpoint, cheating. Yet, you get an advantage that other people do not, if they do not choose to. You can't dismiss that you are getting an unfair advantage over other people just because there are some people (usually 1-2 per 40 people on a server) who use cheats that you could never do actually in the game. If the developers didn't want the game to be really dark, they would have implemented a gamma slider, or made it so your eyes adjust to the darkness.
Now, Rust may well be in Vanilla but for some reason you think that dismisses blatant cheating. If the majority of people used 3rd party cheating programs on Rust, and some didn't, would you start cheating too so that way it would be fair? Don't wanna get fucked in the dark? Don't go out in the dark, that's part of the whole survival aspect and why people don't go running around in a forest at night. People can't turn up a gamma slider in real life just so they can not get their shit stolen.
Just because others cheat doesn't mean you should.
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