I would personally like to see a wider range from starting out to the point where you get a gun.
Seems arrows are only good for 5minutes : /
You can easily beat a pistol guy with bow, hell me and my friend is running around in kevlar, m4s and a bow, you know, for silent killing.
I agree that all guns should be more difficult to obtain. The server I play on had a wipe and within 10 minutes someone already had a M4 and loads of ammo. Probably got lucky in the run to a rad area to get the m4, ammo, but to get 2 - 3 research kits as well to make his own ammo is unbelievable
I'm sure they will make kevlar/guns harder to get.
I agree, guns and/or ammo should be scarce enough that it wouldn't be wise to shoot naked people with M4's.
[QUOTE=Sithler;43361333]I agree, guns and/or ammo should be scarce enough that it wouldn't be wise to shoot naked people with M4's.[/QUOTE]
Keep dreaming.
[QUOTE=Sithler;43361333]I agree, guns and/or ammo should be scarce enough that it wouldn't be wise to shoot naked people with M4's.[/QUOTE]
then they have to make your attack less powerfull when your naked to or theres no point to armor
It only takes 2 hits with a pickaxe to kill a kevlar dude as it is... takes 2mins to get the axe from a walker
i just think there needs to be a larger range between lowest and highest quality for materials.
[QUOTE=Krondite;43361909]then they have to make your attack less powerfull when your naked to or theres no point to armor
It only takes 2 hits with a pickaxe to kill a kevlar dude as it is... takes 2mins to get the axe from a walker[/QUOTE]
I was talking about people shooting anyone on sight even if they are not a threat. (I did not make this clear in my original post, sorry for that)
There should be some 'sweet spot' of weapon scarcity that makes is feasible to defend against threats, but would be a waste to just kill naked monkeys on sight.
As it is now I feel that the naked monkeys need some more protection.
[QUOTE=Sithler;43362135]I was talking about people shooting anyone on sight even if they are not a threat. (I did not make this clear in my original post, sorry for that)
There should be some 'sweet spot' of weapon scarcity that makes is feasible to defend against threats, but would be a waste to just kill naked monkeys on sight.
As it is now I feel that the naked monkeys need some more protection.[/QUOTE]
Maybe we should let them throw their rocks... lol
I agree I think guns should be alot harder to create or get hold of.
[QUOTE=Deltadude;43361227]I would personally like to see a wider range from starting out to the point where you get a gun.
Seems arrows are only good for 5minutes : /[/QUOTE]
I agree, aside from the hand cannon, that is a believable gun you could craft up pretty "quick" but the 9mm handgun and onwards, I'd like to see become much harder to craft.
Ahem. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1340401[/url] (down right now due to the DDOS).
[QUOTE=CanVox;43362343]Ahem. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1340401[/url] (down right now due to the DDOS).[/QUOTE]
Why the hell are you advertising your server here.
I want official changes not community servers.
[QUOTE=Sithler;43362135]I was talking about people shooting anyone on sight even if they are not a threat. (I did not make this clear in my original post, sorry for that)
There should be some 'sweet spot' of weapon scarcity that makes is feasible to defend against threats, but would be a waste to just kill naked monkeys on sight.
As it is now I feel that the naked monkeys need some more protection.[/QUOTE]
that is part of the problem the nakeds "fresh spawns" are still a treat the a fully geared players... so abit unwise not to kill them to
[QUOTE=Krondite;43362952]that is part of the problem the nakeds "fresh spawns" are still a treat the a fully geared players... so abit unwise not to kill them to[/QUOTE]
i usually only go after them if i see them gatherin.
You don't even need M4's or anything else. Get a few dudes with pipe shotguns and not only is ammo extremely cheap, they're hilariously powerful.
I would like to see more homemade weapons, kind of like the ones in the Metro games. They all have their positives and negatives, such as the bastard smg which can be discharged quickly and powerfully yet it is prone to jamming.
alright make guns harder to get and ammo not so damn ridiculous.
[QUOTE=thorin987;43363568]alright make guns harder to get and ammo not so damn ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
personally i like ammo gathering where its at, makes it so you dont just spray it.
Guns are already hard to get if you craft them,
the spawnrates in loot boxes on the other hand are quite high. Check 2 radplaces and you normally get at least 1 gun.
Imho the problem isnt aquiring a gun, but the fact that they stay forever.
Guns should break down after x number of shots, which would result in way less guns.
Maybe make ammo only craftable and dont spawn it.
The biggest issue with guns i have though, you dont know who has one with him.
Playermodels should show guns. Right now any naked caveman is a threat.
If they get to close to me i shot them, they might take out a shoutgun at any time.
Id prefer if i hadnt have to do that, because i kill a lot of freshspawns and little bambis that way.
I dont really like doing that, but it is necesarry to survive, so i will(normally after a warning though).
Once you have a research kit, you can just research the most powerful weapon and then craft a ton of them.
And do you have any idea how expensive it is to craft an m4?
I guess not, so i will tell you.
25!! lower grade metal which is over 300 metal fragments which is over 50 metal ore which is about 5-7 rocks, depending on the outcome.
That would only be the weapon part.
Crafting ammunition is even more expensive.
What makes people have all the guns, are the spawncrates and the fact that they stay ingame forever.
(oh and btw, atm noone in the right mind crafts weapons oO its way to easy to get them otherwise)
[QUOTE=Bintin;43363899]And do you have any idea how expensive it is to craft an m4?
I guess not, so i will tell you.
25!! lower grade metal which is over 300 metal fragments which is over 50 metal ore which is about 5-7 rocks, depending on the outcome.
That would only be the weapon part.
Crafting ammunition is even more expensive.
What makes people have all the guns, are the spawncrates and the fact that they stay ingame forever.
(oh and btw, atm noone in the right mind crafts weapons oO its way to easy to get them otherwise)[/QUOTE]
true true ammo is alot harder to get than guns at this point
[QUOTE=Bintin;43363670]Guns are already hard to get if you craft them,
the spawnrates in loot boxes on the other hand are quite high. Check 2 radplaces and you normally get at least 1 gun.
Imho the problem isnt aquiring a gun, but the fact that they stay forever.
Guns should break down after x number of shots, which would result in way less guns.
Maybe make ammo only craftable and dont spawn it.
The biggest issue with guns i have though, you dont know who has one with him.
Playermodels should show guns. Right now any naked caveman is a threat.
If they get to close to me i shot them, they might take out a shoutgun at any time.
Id prefer if i hadnt have to do that, because i kill a lot of freshspawns and little bambis that way.
I dont really like doing that, but it is necesarry to survive, so i will(normally after a warning though).[/QUOTE]
considering i have crafted all guns, including the bolt action, yes i do know how "hard" they are.
how about we don't widen the gap between the zerg groups and solo players any more. because thats all you will accomplish by making guns harder to obtain. make explosives craftable at spawn just so we kill this tech gap completely ..
Making ammo/guns more rare will not solve the problem, it will only make it worse.
Groups or players who have been on a server for a long time will have a HUGE advantage over newer players or people who can't spend 10 hours a day gaming.
It is fair enough as it is, people need a way to defend themselves.
Not to mention that bows are ALWAYS useful, silent killers, super good for killing zombies, wreck people even with Kevlar, I always carry a bow and 20-50 arrows with me.
Would you mind to tell me your ratio of crafted guns to spawned guns?
I am quite sure it will be somewhat around 99 to 1?
Edit:
Btw, does you mentioning your expirience with guncrafting have a point? Because right now your post is a random "i have crafted all guns" without any deeper meaning (at least i cant see it)
[QUOTE=Bintin;43363986]Would you mind to tell me your ratio of crafted guns to spawned guns?
I am quite sure it will be somewhat around 99 to 1?
Edit:
Btw, does you mentioning your expirience with guncrafting have a point? Because right now your post is a random "i have crafted all guns" without any deeper meaning (at least i cant see it)[/QUOTE]
Means i know how much the materials cost.
Also spawned guns?
Depends on the server, harder to get when you are in a populated server. Now if you're on a low pop server it's easier as you don't have to avoid PVP.
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