well it reduces the number of post required from 9 to four, but they will cause alot of clutter inside buildings.
I don't really know why this needed to be it's own thread.
yep its fucked if u c4 one outside wall the rest fall down now cause of no pillars and you cant seem to place them on triangle foundations at all now
I truly do not understand the thought process behind the block removal and now the changes to pillars, While i do appreciate the new placement option in the center i believe it removed too much creative potential
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What would a building like this look like with the new pillar design?
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Or something like this?
The answer is they would look very stupid, my bridge wont ever be a bridge again, my stilts wont ever be stilts unless i build 2+ wide walkways and even then it would not be aesthetically pleasing at all.
Please consider making it so that we have the option to place pillars as before and add in the 5th option for the center.
haven't gotten on in a bit; are the pillars ONLY placeable in the centre, or can they still be placed in the corners instead? after all, legacy had both, so it would make sense to have the same.
Only in the center of square foundations / floors .
On the ends of triangle foundations / floors.
This is effing comical.
now all you have to do is c4 one of the outside bottom walls and the rest fall down so fucking stupid
I think this is awful. It restricts building so much and stability seems to be fucked along with it.
I agree. Its limiting the creativity, its like when the ladders were introduced and that you HAVE to build lips to protect yourself.
This new update really surprised me and i was super upset when i saw these pillars, when i went to build my base they should change it to where you can place them anywhere like in legacy 1 middle and 4 around the edges
Just some thoughts
It's punishment for complaining about 1/2 blocks and steps.
I have to agree the pillars in this new update are awful, at least make it like Legacy with the option to place pillars on the edges and the insides.
I can't place them on triangle foundations, wonderful.
It's not just pillars that ruined creativity, the missing half blocks does as well.
Building on an incline requires the use of stairs to drop your foundation line, which drops it by half a block each set of stairs (foundation stairs). This requires a half block to bring a particular floor back up to the height to make it link up with the rest of the building when building upwards.
the half block ramps were also useful in conjunction with this for ease of getting around.
With 2 blocks now not in the game and the pillars moved, the creative potential of building making has plummeted.
Honestly why was pillars in the corner not favoured? they are only easily destroyed if people forget to upgrade them, which is the same as any building node.
Doors are a little weird and cumbersome now, but they are manageable at least.
Honestly, building a house now is a jumbled mess. I recently became an admin on a server and was able to test many possible builds with the new pillar system. Its almost not worth building a base larger than 1 story. Just to have an air lock or to build stairs "effectively", you have to sacrifice ceiling and second story floor stability. Not to mention the pillar placement makes it awkward to move about inside your base.
I think i understand what they were going for, it does in fact lower the amount of resources to build a house, making it so that the exterior walls double as outer supports for the structure. however, if they were going to do that, why not just remove the option to place pillars on outer-most foundations that aren't connect to another foundation. By that i mean making so that you have to build walls on the outer rim of your foundation. Then, keeping the old pillar placement system, allowing players to place pillars on the cross sections of foundations in the inner most part of the foundations instead of making then place them in the dead center.
There was really nothing wrong with the old pillar placement. In all honesty, Rust went from having a decent building system, to having a nearly broken one in a matter of hours. Whoever thought this was a good idea, REALLY needs to make sure that they left their house wearing pants this morning.
OMG The world has ended.
You can't build the way you use to, and you can't build any other way after a half a day of playing.
[QUOTE=jumonjii;49059190]OMG The world has ended.
You can't build the way you use to, and you can't build any other way after a half a day of playing.[/QUOTE]
Rather naive and childish remark.
The point everyone is making is they removed a lot of creativity to the game and replaced it with things that are far far below anything of equal benefit.
Everyone has been quite constructive in their arguments and comments.
The game is changing.
Yeah it sucks that half blocks are gone.
Yeah it sucks that pillars are in the middle of foundations now.
Yeah it sucks that people grief with barricades and walls and whatever else now.
What if these building items weren't in the game to start with?
It's been less than a day, is my point. Take some time to build differently, you may surprise yourself.
[QUOTE=jumonjii;49059309]The game is changing.
Yeah it sucks that half blocks are gone.
Yeah it sucks that pillars are in the middle of foundations now.
Yeah it sucks that people grief with barricades and walls and whatever else now.
What if these building items weren't in the game to start with?
It's been less than a day, is my point. Take some time to build differently, you may surprise yourself.[/QUOTE]
While i would normally wholeheartedly endorse your sentiment on pushing creativeness, there is a difference between exploring new ideas and methods, and what this patch brings.
I would honestly encourage you to follow your own closing statement, and apply it to a base bigger then a single floor 2 x 2.
Wait this isn't a bug? I don't get it
[QUOTE=Atrum;49059346]While i would normally wholeheartedly endorse your sentiment on pushing creativeness, there is a difference between exploring new ideas and methods, and what this patch brings.
I would honestly encourage you to follow your own closing statement, and apply it to a base bigger then a single floor 2 x 2.[/QUOTE]
"than".
5x5x3 is the minimum I build, and I mostly play solo.
So is this a way of reducing load by keeping the building down?
[QUOTE=Datadawg;49059443]So is this a way of reducing load by keeping the building down?[/QUOTE]
What do you mean?
Dude, new pillars SUCK! What the hell?! It's blocking my windows, my doors ... it's just ugly! PLEASE FIX THIS!
I really hope you reconsider, I really want to build some epic stuff in the future for this game!
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Complete retard this is. I agree with everything Gary has done so far but this.....omg
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