Would you consider this admin abuse? - Rust

[video=youtube;BvmBbffUO3g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvmBbffUO3g&feature=youtu.be[/video]Just wanted to hear your thoughts on this. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvmBbffUO3g&feature=youtu.be[/url] Ask any questions if you would like, I'll answer.

As a admin on a server, I would of said it was legit. For the legit raid. But once you got TP and then who ever TP behind you that would class as Admin Abuse. Just my opinion. :smile:

The raid was legit, I am not arguing with you there. And the fact that I believe he took all the loot from my body and gave it to the people who raided, or kept it to himself. Oh well, gg :D

What a douche-bag.. Why break their storage chests and furnaces when you got their loot? Glad you got admin abused. Karma right there buddy. lol

[QUOTE=chris21pl;43673315]What a douche-bag.. Why break their storage chests and furnaces when you got their loot? Glad you got admin abused. Karma right there buddy. lol[/QUOTE] Oh golly, I can sense the stupidity. [editline]25th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=chris21pl;43673315]What a douche-bag.. Why break their storage chests and furnaces when you got their loot? Glad you got admin abused. Karma right there buddy. lol[/QUOTE] If you must know, I was an enemy to this guy, him killing my friend and apparently getting Kevlar within 45 mins of server wipe (not sure about that one, just a rumor some people in the server are saying). I wanted to send a message as well as set him back a lot as well.

Eh.. there was a lot of really bad behavior on both sides. It's admin abuse, but you're also a pretty toxic player oshibas. I don't think that "bby" crap is really necessary. You also really didn't have to destroy all their stuff. You're doing that to be hostile, not to steal gear. I wonder how much different the whole thing would have been if you had just moved on and kept raiding instead of taking that huge amount of time to break their gear. Anyways, admins are allowed to do whatever they want on their own servers. I wouldn't expect admins to take your side if you're an openly toxic player.

[QUOTE=Scynix;43673438]Eh.. there was a lot of really bad behavior on both sides. It's admin abuse, but you're also a pretty toxic player oshibas. I don't think that "bby" crap is really necessary. You also really didn't have to destroy all their stuff. You're doing that to be hostile, not to steal gear. I wonder how much different the whole thing would have been if you had just moved on and kept raiding instead of taking that huge amount of time to break their gear. Anyways, admins are allowed to do whatever they want on their own servers. I wouldn't expect admins to take your side if you're an openly toxic player.[/QUOTE] Apparently saying "bby" is a form of toxicity? Destroying their stuff sets back the MAIN antagonists on that server, who also go around killing fresh spawns and raiding small little shelters that new players made who are new. We left after destroying their bottom floor, and came back. We didn't destroy anything after that... You're right, it's their server, it does not give them the right to abuse their power though.

Bubbles shouldn't have TPed you in the first place. He should have gone to you to confirm you were stuck. You were not stuck. You were caught. Even though you were doing well you had no way to leave their base and would have eventually died and lost everything anyways. So in reality there was no loss.

[QUOTE=nosut;43673477]Bubbles shouldn't have TPed you in the first place. He should have gone to you to confirm you were stuck. You were not stuck. You were caught. Even though you were doing well you had no way to leave their base and would have eventually died and lost everything anyways. So in reality there was no lose.[/QUOTE] Stuck definition - in an unpleasant situation or place that you cannot escape from

[QUOTE=oshibas;43673487]Stuck definition - in an unpleasant situation or place that you cannot escape from[/QUOTE] You know very well that in gaming being stuck is due to a problem with terrain or glitch. You were caught. Trapped by another player. You also had the option to suicide. You attempted to get a free pass and it bit you in ass. I see you did not deny that you would have eventually died had the admin not fallen for your "Stuck" line.

[QUOTE=nosut;43673504]You know very well that in gaming being stuck is due to a problem with terrain or glitch. You were caught. You attempted to get a free pass and it bit you in ass. I see you did not deny that you would have eventually died had the admin not fallen for your "Stuck" line.[/QUOTE] I guess you didn't see the part where I said I was "trapped" in their house, THEN he tp me. I later say I was stuck, because I WAS stuck. Stuck isn't just confined to a "gaming" definition. I probably wouldn't have died due to the fact that they left during that conversation, while my buddy was collecting materials for more C4. But the timing was bad as well, due to me having work soon.

TPing people is admin abuse in my and my friends books. It is something that is not featured in the official servers and shouldn't be there for player use. The only exception is if you were an admin that doesn't play on the server but only gets on to investigate cheaters. If a player gets legitimately stuck then they will learn to be more careful next time.

I didn't intend for this to be a shitstorm thread, but god watch the whole video before you make a comment xD

doesn't matter who is right or wrong in this situation, cause this happens all the time on every community server and admins are only sometimes right. Admins shouldn't have as much power as they do in a game like this if they have any friends on the server, or play on it.

[QUOTE=sufficient;43673639]doesn't matter who is right or wrong in this situation, cause this happens all the time on every community server and admins are only sometimes right. Admins shouldn't have as much power as they do in a game like this if they have any friends on the server, or play on it.[/QUOTE] Agreed

Admin should have checked that you were stuck, because you weren't stuck.. they 'won' by trapping you in their base.. good on them. Admin TPing to you and killing you is abuse. So to me there is two instances of admin abuse. People talk crap all the time and you saying you was stuck is just a BS line he should have checked out.

[QUOTE=Tais;43673667]Admin should have checked that you were stuck, because you weren't stuck.. they 'won' by trapping you in their base.. good on them. Admin TPing to you and killing you is abuse. So to me there is two instances of admin abuse. People talk crap all the time and you saying you was stuck is just a BS line he should have checked out.[/QUOTE] At first I said trapped, which is what he followed up on, not me saying I was stuck LATER in the video, because I was stuck in their base. Do people know the definition of stuck? Everything else I agree with you on.

[QUOTE=oshibas;43673471]You're right, it's their server, it does not give them the right to abuse their power though.[/QUOTE] Actually I'm pretty sure it does. It's their server. If they want to use their admin powers to kill you they can. You're choosing to play there, no one is forcing you to. I've been banned for everything from killing the admins friends when they were raiding my base to "supporting gay rights". There's a thread here that talks about it already. You should expect it on community servers, frankly. Saying "bby" is not toxic, using it in the way you are, as some kind of sarcastic jab is toxic, and you PRETENDING like you don't know implies that you know damn well you're a toxic player. I'm not saying that to be hostile oshibas, a lot of people are that way. Especially in Rust, but I would recommend finding a server that has more leniency. If you aren't friendly with the admins, why would you expect them to NOT treat you like you treat others? And destroying storage crates does not "set back the main antagonists". It's a nuisance, easily repaired- that's the point. You did it to be malicious, not for any strategic gain.

[QUOTE=oshibas;43673487]Stuck definition - in an unpleasant situation or place that you cannot escape from[/QUOTE] On my server we don't tp people who are stupid enough to get themselves stuck inside a persons house during a raid. You keep pulling up the definition of stuck like that means anything to us. If you got yourself into that situation then you can get yourself out. Through killing them when they open doors, getting killed, or using the suicide option. The only way we tp people on my server is if they are actually physically stuck in the world or world objects. Like being stuck in a tree, a wall, a rock, or a crevice. Stupidity during a raid doesn't fall under that. [editline]25th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=sufficient;43673639]doesn't matter who is right or wrong in this situation, cause this happens all the time on every community server and admins are only sometimes right. Admins shouldn't have as much power as they do in a game like this if they have any friends on the server, or play on it.[/QUOTE] They pay their own money to run a server that you are then able to play on. These admins are entitled to use their powers how they want because it's their money. This will never change no matter how loud you cry about it. The beauty of this game though is that if you don't like that, there are plenty of other servers to play on like the official where that will never happen. You can also make your own server.

[QUOTE=Scynix;43673707]Actually I'm pretty sure it does. It's their server. If they want to use their admin powers to kill you they can. You're choosing to play there, no one is forcing you to. I've been banned for everything from killing the admins friends when they were raiding my base to "supporting gay rights". There's a thread here that talks about it already. You should expect it on community servers, frankly. Saying "bby" is not toxic, using it in the way you are, as some kind of sarcastic jab is toxic, and you PRETENDING like you don't know implies that you know damn well you're a toxic player. I'm not saying that to be hostile oshibas, a lot of people are that way. Especially in Rust, but I would recommend finding a server that has more leniency. If you aren't friendly with the admins, why would you expect them to NOT treat you like you treat others? And destroying storage crates does not "set back the main antagonists". It's a nuisance, easily repaired- that's the point. You did it to be malicious, not for any strategic gain.[/QUOTE] We're all "toxic" in some shape or form then. It happens, but one instance does not make me an overall "toxic" player. It's causing them to spend more time refortifying their base, more time getting resources, and spend more crafting time to rebuild. I'd say it's a pretty good strategic gain. Either way, I see what you are trying to say, no disrespect towards you. [editline]26th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Yoshihito;43673724]On my server we don't tp people who are stupid enough to get themselves stuck inside a persons house during a raid. You keep pulling up the definition of stuck like that means anything to us. If you got yourself into that situation then you can get yourself out. Through killing them when they open doors, getting killed, or using the suicide option. The only way we tp people on my server is if they are actually physically stuck in the world or world objects. Like being stuck in a tree, a wall, a rock, or a crevice. Stupidity during a raid doesn't fall under that. [/QUOTE] You act like I asked to be tp out...Please guys.

[QUOTE=oshibas;43673755] You act like I asked to be tp out...[/QUOTE] Why would you be yelling stuck then? To get tp'd out is really the only reason.

[QUOTE=Yoshihito;43673801]Why would you be yelling stuck then? To get tp'd out is really the only reason.[/QUOTE] "Trapped" Stahp inferring that it was all a devious ploy plz.

Btw this is Keyori's (LoL YouTube Entertainer) server, Keyring. For anyone who wants to know.

I think the admin was just correcting his mistake. Hopefully he gave the loot from you to the people whose house you were trapped in.

This is why you always salt the earth behind you.. Pillar the fuck out of that base so you can't get caught like that with your pants down.. Was it Admin abuse? uhh you bet your sweet ass it was.. Shit Server.. Come play one ours instead.. Admin powers all disabled except Kick/Ban.

Every time an admin uses the admin tools to gain an advantage over other players in PvP or PvE it's admin abuse. Then there are different grades of admin abuse.

People are really getting upset over the destruction of their boxes. Sometimes, people hide C4 or other valuables in small stashes behind these objects. Sometimes, you need to destroy them to set back the biggest players in the server. It's a survival game - sometimes survival means putting others further behind. As for if this was admin abuse or not - grey area. I think TP'ing you out was admin abuse, personally. Killing you after was dumb, and also admin abuse.

his fault for tping you, he shoulda just tped you back into their base, assuming he know thats where you were before.

You were stuck in a bind and called for help to get out with a full inventory. That was not cool. Saying your stuck to get out of a situation that would benefit you when your in someone elses base. I would have killed you too if I were the admin that TP'd you after crying wolf. Then again I would have TP'd to you and actually evaluated the situation. You should NEVER get a admin TP if your raiding someone elses base. You sir are the one who abused the system. In the end, the admin who TP'd you didnt realize you were raiding someone until AFTER he already did it. So he had every right to shoot you after pulling a stunt like that. Even you said "did Bubbles really just TP me?! OMG he just TP'd me out" as if you knew it was the wrong thing to do. If the admin knew you were raiding the base and still TP'd you out and let you live... that would be abuse. To pin this on the admin is plain irresponsibility. The evidence is all at the end of the video. We don't need to argue whether you knew this was right or wrong. Do yourself a favor and delete the video to save yourself the embarrassment.

[QUOTE=PanicElastic;43685832]You were stuck in a bind and called for help to get out with a full inventory. That was not cool. Saying your stuck to get out of a situation that would benefit you when your in someone elses base. I would have killed you too if I were the admin that TP'd you after crying wolf. Then again I would have TP'd to you and actually evaluated the situation. You should NEVER get a admin TP if your raiding someone elses base. You sir are the one who abused the system. In the end, the admin who TP'd you didnt realize you were raiding someone until AFTER he already did it. So he had every right to shoot you after pulling a stunt like that. Even you said "did Bubbles really just TP me?! OMG he just TP'd me out" as if you knew it was the wrong thing to do. If the admin knew you were raiding the base and still TP'd you out and let you live... that would be abuse. To pin this on the admin is plain irresponsibility. The evidence is all at the end of the video. We don't need to argue whether you knew this was right or wrong. Do yourself a favor and delete the video to save yourself the embarrassment.[/QUOTE] Oh golly. I so embarrass. I did not ask for a TP, all I said that I was trapped in his base, that's where I was actually TP'ed. But I'm not going to explain this again for people who cannot pay attention. I did NOT call for help (besides the when I wrote "plz halp" but that was towards everyone (including my group) as a joke, not towards an admin.) As for me shouting "did he just TP me?" and all the other shit, I was surprised. It was his wrong doing. I would completely understand if he took me back to where I was stuck in their base. But killing me and taking all the loot for either himself or the raided was completely unnecessary. I did however try to take advantage of that TP he unnecessarily gave me, but knowing that I probably wouldn't have kept it due to a stunt like this. I figured messing with the admin's friends base would turn out badly. He is still abusing the system either way. [editline]27th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Gawdsed;43685375]his fault for tping you, he shoulda just tped you back into their base, assuming he know thats where you were before.[/QUOTE] I would've been okay if he tp'ed me back into their base, it's understandable. The fact that he took all of the gear I worked for killing 20+ people was taken for either himself or gave back to the people who were raided. [editline]27th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Evil Joe;43685103]People are really getting upset over the destruction of their boxes. Sometimes, people hide C4 or other valuables in small stashes behind these objects. Sometimes, you need to destroy them to set back the biggest players in the server. It's a survival game - sometimes survival means putting others further behind. As for if this was admin abuse or not - grey area. I think TP'ing you out was admin abuse, personally. Killing you after was dumb, and also admin abuse.[/QUOTE] You win. [editline]27th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Immortalis;43684531]This is why you always salt the earth behind you.. Pillar the fuck out of that base so you can't get caught like that with your pants down.. Was it Admin abuse? uhh you bet your sweet ass it was.. Shit Server.. Come play one ours instead.. Admin powers all disabled except Kick/Ban.[/QUOTE] We should've done that...our stupid mistake. We're still new to Rust. [editline]27th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=SirZiggy;43684427]I think the admin was just correcting his mistake. Hopefully he gave the loot from you to the people whose house you were trapped in.[/QUOTE] I think it was the wrong choice in killing me then giving back their loot. I would've accepted that he tp'ed me back, that way they can actually earn it instead of getting an admin online and banning one of our group members as well.