Once "owned" houses are implemented, bases need to be indestructable. - Rust

Once houses can be "owned", something needs to be coded when "owners" and residents are offline, the houses become indestructible. This prevents bitches from bitching out and raiding while their opponents are offline like a bunch of bitches. 3 days after a server wipe, our group of 12 people on a server of 50 were raided. 4 different houses. 40+ metal doors, 50+ wood walls all exploded between our 4 houses. None of us were online. It was done at the weirdest hour imaginable. That is an INSANE amount of c4 in 3 days only. Raid when people are online!! Bitches!! Before the server wipe, we were raided twice. Both while we were offline. No one has ever attempted to raid us while we're online. Are some of you seriously that pussy-ish to not face people while they're online? And who the hell has the time to create 130+ c4 in 3 days only??

if you are 12 and i am 1, i'll wait 'til you're offline to raid you. otherwise you'd just kill me.

Yeah it's kind of an issue right now. Too many punks raiding at odd hours of the morning. Seems players can't man up and raid someone while they are online. My group refuses to raid people who are not online. People who play Lone Wolf or in a group of 2 might have no other choice, but if you play in a semi-large group and you are still raiding during off-hours.. grow a pair..

[QUOTE=A. James;43861775]Once houses can be "owned", something needs to be coded when "owners" and residents are offline, the houses become indestructible. This prevents bitches from bitching out and raiding while their opponents are offline like a bunch of bitches. 3 days after a server wipe, our group of 12 people on a server of 50 were raided. 4 different houses. 40+ metal doors, 50+ wood walls all exploded between our 4 houses. None of us were online. It was done at the weirdest hour imaginable. That is an INSANE amount of c4 in 3 days only. Raid when people are online!! Bitches!! Before the server wipe, we were raided twice. Both while we were offline. No one has ever attempted to raid us while we're online. Are some of you seriously that pussy-ish to not face people while they're online? And who the hell has the time to create 130+ c4 in 3 days only??[/QUOTE] Large organized groups that do most of their resource farming during low pop hours can get large numbers of c4 pretty quickly. My group of 3-4 guys had 15 c4 in 1 night. Its not impossible, just take some work. With that said 130+ C4 would not be worth what they got out of your stash by any stretch. It was more of the point to just raid Second, I like the idea of raiding during off hours. It gives a different aspect to the raid game that can be interesting because you never know if someone is going to come online when you are raiding, which could throw a wrench into things. Also raiding offline gives the smaller groups a chance to actually pull off the heist. Otherwise if it is 12vs3 they will just get rolled and never be able to raid any larger groups. Just man up take your licks and start over. If you have a group of 12 people it will not take long to replace your stuff.

did you keep any C4 in your house or on you? maybe they had like a bunch of C4, went into your house, got YOUR C4 and then used it on the rest of your house. Oh the irony (right?). anyhow, who's the bigger bitch? the guys that stole all your e-shit...or the guy that comes on the forums to cry about getting their e-shit stolen?

Well i usually play alone so its kinda hard to raid a house where 5 people live when they all are online. This is kinda stupid though because then people could just disconnect when its being raided

[QUOTE=InfoWarrior;43862074]Well i usually play alone so its kinda hard to raid a house where 5 people live when they all are online. This is kinda stupid though because then people could just disconnect when its being raided[/QUOTE] ^ True story, the mechanic your asking for would be viciously abused in this way. Just come to terms you where probably rolled by a bigger more efficient group and go get your revenge.

[QUOTE=A. James;43861775]Once houses can be "owned", something needs to be coded when "owners" and residents are offline, the houses become indestructible. This prevents bitches from bitching out and raiding while their opponents are offline like a bunch of bitches. 3 days after a server wipe, our group of 12 people on a server of 50 were raided. 4 different houses. 40+ metal doors, 50+ wood walls all exploded between our 4 houses. None of us were online. It was done at the weirdest hour imaginable. That is an INSANE amount of c4 in 3 days only. Raid when people are online!! Bitches!! Before the server wipe, we were raided twice. Both while we were offline. No one has ever attempted to raid us while we're online. Are some of you seriously that pussy-ish to not face people while they're online? And who the hell has the time to create 130+ c4 in 3 days only??[/QUOTE] Jesse? Is that you?

U mad bro? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("meme reply" - postal))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=cubsfan-budma;43862064]did you keep any C4 in your house or on you? maybe they had like a bunch of C4, went into your house, got YOUR C4 and then used it on the rest of your house. Oh the irony (right?). anyhow, who's the bigger bitch? the guys that stole all your e-shit...or the guy that comes on the forums to cry about getting their e-shit stolen?[/QUOTE] Well, we only had 5 c4...but a substantial amount of resources to build c4. However, the point isn't about crying about stolen e-shit (reading comprehension is essential, you should try it some time); the point is RAIDING while people are OFFLINE. I thought that was clear? [QUOTE=Dreldan;43862104]Jesse? Is that you?[/QUOTE] Magnets, bitch!

[QUOTE=A. James;43862170]Well, we only had 5 c4...but a substantial amount of resources to build c4. However, the point isn't about crying about stolen e-shit (reading comprehension is essential, you should try it some time); the point is RAIDING while people are OFFLINE. I thought that was clear?[/QUOTE] This is one of the reasons I prefer servers with rare C4.

[QUOTE=Rustypipe;43862094]^ True story, the mechanic your asking for would be viciously abused in this way. Just come to terms you where probably rolled by a bigger more efficient group and go get your revenge.[/QUOTE] My suggestion wasn't a sincere idea; more of an extreme one to illustrate a point.

RAIDING = STEALING, no? My reading comprehension is excellent. Your e-shit got raided, your e-house got fugged up. You're RL crying about it. That seems far more pussyish then actually perpetrating the RAID on your e-shit. [QUOTE=A. James;43862170]Well, we only had 5 c4...but a substantial amount of resources to build c4. However, the point isn't about crying about stolen e-shit (reading comprehension is essential, you should try it some time); the point is RAIDING while people are OFFLINE. I thought that was clear? Magnets, bitch![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=cubsfan-budma;43862197][/QUOTE] Your comprehension is terrible whether you personally believe it or not. Again, the point is raiding while your opponents are offline. I can try to be more clear if that doesn't suffice.

[QUOTE=A. James;43862233]Your comprehension is terrible whether you personally believe it or not. Again, the point is raiding while your opponents are offline. I can try to be more clear if that doesn't suffice.[/QUOTE] i'll boil it down: you called people bitches for raiding you while you were offline. i'm calling you a bitch for coming on the forums and whining about it.

[QUOTE=A. James;43862233]Your comprehension is terrible whether you personally believe it or not. Again, the point is raiding while your opponents are offline. I can try to be more clear if that doesn't suffice.[/QUOTE] Welcome to Rust. If you can't deal with it, play something else.

[QUOTE=A. James;43862233]Your comprehension is terrible whether you personally believe it or not. Again, the point is raiding while your opponents are offline. I can try to be more clear if that doesn't suffice.[/QUOTE] The reality of it is there is no silver bullet to fix this problem. If you restrict it to when x number of people are on, people will exploit it. If you limit to a number of hours per day, not everyone has the same schedule so people will be pissed. The best way to deal with it is to just hide your base better and deal with the fact its part of the game. Another thing you can do is go to a non-craft C4 server. Problem solved. Here is one server that allows c4 but restricts it so people are not running around with massive stock piles of it: [url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/252490/discussions/1/630802344570078379/[/url] I'm sure some people already have made mods where raiding can only take place during mainstream hours, or c4 only works then or something, try taking a look for it or posting the question on the server sub forum. People have done some creative things in the mod community already.

[QUOTE=Rustypipe;43862298]The reality of it is there is no silver bullet to fix this problem. If you restrict it to when x number of people are on, people will exploit it. If you limit to a number of hours per day, not everyone has the same schedule so people will be pissed. The best way to deal with it is to just hide your base better and deal with the fact its part of the game. Another thing you can do is go to a non-craft C4 server. Problem solved. I'm sure some people already have made mods where raiding can only take place during mainstream hours, or c4 only works then or something, try taking a look for it or posting the question on the server sub forum. People have done some creative things in the mod community already.[/QUOTE] You still get raided on nocraft c4 servers, it just takes more effort. Which is why I like them.

[QUOTE=Rustypipe;43862298]The reality of it is there is no silver bullet to fix this problem. If you restrict it to when x number of people are on, people will exploit it. If you limit to a number of hours per day, not everyone has the same schedule so people will be pissed. The best way to deal with it is to just hide your base better and deal with the fact its part of the game. Another thing you can do is go to a non-craft C4 server. Problem solved. I'm sure some people already have made mods where raiding can only take place during mainstream hours, or c4 only works then or something, try taking a look for it or posting the question on the server sub forum. People have done some creative things in the mod community already.[/QUOTE] I understand those servers exist, but they are boring. You know what else is boring? Raiding while opponents are offline. It's such a bitch way to play. (which again; for cubsfan, that's the point of my rant.)

[QUOTE=wreckington;43862378]You still get raided on nocraft c4 servers, it just takes more effort. Which is why I like them.[/QUOTE] When you can only raid with F1 Grenades you should be able to build your base so its next to impossible, stupid hard, or not worth someones time.

You guys are complaining about being raided while offline? What's next you gonna complain when someone kills the deer outside your house? You're calling people who raid you while you're offline bitches when you're the one bitching on the forums about it. It's just smart play. That's it. "Huh, should I raid this guy's base when he's offline so he can't defend it, or when he's online when he'll be shooting at me? Hmmmmm..." I mean honestly. Grow up and quit complaining. Improve your base's defenses, or golly, don't build your base in the middle of an open field you twat.

[QUOTE=FlippyT;43862417]You guys are complaining about being raided while offline? What's next you gonna complain when someone kills the deer outside your house? You're calling people who raid you while you're offline bitches when you're the one bitching on the forums about it. It's just smart play. That's it. "Huh, should I raid this guy's base when he's offline so he can't defend it, or when he's online when he'll be shooting at me? Hmmmmm..." I mean honestly. Grow up and quit complaining. Improve your base's defenses, or golly, don't build your base in the middle of an open field you twat.[/QUOTE] I know it was only a matter of time until someone from PETA showed up! :P

I don't know about you but the clever man will always raid when the victim is offline. If you were assigned a task to steal a TV from someone's house you would go in when they were not there, correct? Same applies for rust. Even an equal amount of players on both sides the base owners will usually win as they have spawn points right there, windows to shoot out of, doors to open, literally all of the advantages you can imagine. Offline raids are a lot safer and all in all the point of the raid is to set the victim to stage 1 again and get loot. Both possible with offline raids.

ITT: OP cries about being raided offline, then continues to cry about people telling him to grow a pair. Basically, ocean of teary eyed 12 year olds with bed times.

Well, to twist the mindfucking repititve rants :- Sleepers ON? Then you got robbed while you're sleeping. Wanna stay safe? Don't sleep. If you know what I mean. Slow brain? Read post #23

I feel you, OP. I have zero interest in playing anymore since people will stay up just to raid you from 3-5am. You will not be raided while you're online unless you're a solo player. My group is guilty of this though I personally don't stay up to raid since I don't care that much about loot that doesn't matter. I play the game for the interaction not the gunplay or loot. Until they give us formiddable base defense, I can't justify putting anymore time into this game. I've seen and done all it has to offer and will come back in a few weeks, maybe even longer. Bought Insurgency and have been loving it, hopefully Rust will have something new to offer by the time this game gets old.

So far the only place left that not got raided was in a PvE server, recently raiders seems less active but maybe someone broke into my little house as we speak... Any PvP servers, as a solo player myself, 999% guaranteed screwed. Been KoS, raided non stop, blah blah blah. But despite getting screwed so badly every single day, still it kinda fun to keep playing... Not sure if forcing myself. Trying to get a group of people I can trust to play together but that's harder than it sounds. Not really much players in my local online community playing this game... After all it's Alpha. If I can't slap them on the face or call the local police to screw them, then i cannot trust them. :v:

[QUOTE=OppositeTalen;43862809]I don't know about you but the clever man will always raid when the victim is offline. If you were assigned a task to steal a TV from someone's house you would go in when they were not there, correct? Same applies for rust. Even an equal amount of players on both sides the base owners will usually win as they have spawn points right there, windows to shoot out of, doors to open, literally all of the advantages you can imagine. Offline raids are a lot safer and all in all the point of the raid is to set the victim to stage 1 again and get loot. Both possible with offline raids.[/QUOTE] That still doesn't address the fact that the way things work now represents a still poorly designed system. Normal, because alpher. The main difference is that In real life you don't go around tearing down walls without consequences. Also, most people have a life. Hell, even uber-nerds who are still in school/vacation generally have the slightest hint of a life. That obviously rules out scrunching 24/7 over a computer screen. Obviously the OPs suggestion is stupid. But the fact is that raiding will probably be balanced eventually by the use of artificial limits and refined mechanics, that will probably be a given. Of course, many people on the forums will bitch and moan when that happens. Myself included (just like I did rage about the backpack nonsense). Forums, like most "closed" communities, are completely backwards. Seriously, if we look at ourselves with an impartial view, we're like a bunch circlejerking of inbred rednecks for crying out loud. Games will always be balanced around gameplay. And gameplay is balanced around player behaviour and/or faulty mechanics.

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I reckon while the OP's suggestion is somewhat stupid, there's a real pain here for a lot of people (builders, mostly) It's not that you got raided, things taken, that you can live with. Well, a full wipe-out is really painful, but still. [B]But your hard-earned and built fortress is now useless, too; that's a real pain. [/B] (due to stairs an other whatnot at the side of your building) So you have to restart from complete scratch now. Without resources... But! If you could repair/upgrade it without too much hassles, that'd be less painful, right? I reckon if you (as the owner of the base) could in fact "recycle" stuff on/next to your base, that'd help with this enormously. Even w/o resources, you'd immediately have some recycled materials, and could fix the worst of the damage probably, while removing unsightly and dangerous attachments put there by the raiders. It'd also provide a continuous, recurring challenge to raiders, as bases would get better and better, presumably quicker.