Poll about half block and stairs - Rust

Lets see (and show Garry) do we need half blocks and stairs.

PLEASE bring them back! It's not so much the blocks or stairs, it's being able to fit 4 chests in a 1x1 "pantry" using a shelf.

They already announced they will be adding shelves

[QUOTE=Havok316UK;49014187]They already announced they will be adding shelves[/QUOTE] honestly, i never use shelves. i build alway big houses (like 11x11) and i need stairs (not the u or L shape wich are very bed) and halfblock to flaten the uneven area.

Please add them back, we use it for protection against raiders and designing the house! Why remove them?

Bring the Half Blocks, Stairs Back! Guys, please Bring the Half Blocks, Stairs Back! You need give Us more construction elements, but not delete them. I'm builder, not only killer,or raider... Edited: [video=youtube;eQHO-f4WTCM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQHO-f4WTCM[/video] [video=youtube;4wn_EgQ3cPo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wn_EgQ3cPo[/video] [video=youtube;FpK0KzEKvFk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpK0KzEKvFk[/video]

je suis francais, et j'aimerais vivement que vous laissiez en place les Demi bloc et demi escalier en pente. c'est à mon gout, une partie indispensable de nos construction. les supprimés nous retire beaucoups de possibilités. Merci de les remettre SVP. Translate google: I am French, and I very much want you to leave in place the half block and a half sloping staircase. it's my taste, an indispensable part of our construction. Deleted withdraws us alot of possibilities. Thank you to hand over the SVP.

Fix the exploits instead of removing features and add the replacements before removing stuff you wish to replace. That is all.

[QUOTE='Deicide[RS];49014567']Fix the exploits instead of removing features and add the replacements before removing stuff you wish to replace. That is all.[/QUOTE] [B]THIS[/B] (thanks for summarizing clearly and efficiently the general feelings of a fair part of player base ^^).

Keep them out and take away a few more things, all we really want to do is kill each other anyway. Let's just have another shooter to add to the zillions of other crappy shooters out there.

For some of my project im a frequent block user for example: [IMG]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28554407/2015-10-11_00004.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28554413/2015-10-11_00001.jpg[/IMG] This waterbase design of my is using a lot of blocks ( the walls around the building. ) The problem is now. I cant create the same walls anymore in the water. ( i think, or it will cost me like triple the amounth of stones. ) So the argument for removing the blocks is invalide in my opinion and they should aks the opinion ( poll ) of the community first, and not just remove it because... yea that comment ( [url]http://playrust.com/devblog-84/[/url] )

Atleast its better to not get your base put full of stone blocks when you get hacked or raided so I think its a good thing + we will get something else soon i'm sure

[QUOTE=s1N1x;49014787]For some of my project im a frequent block user for example: [IMG]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28554407/2015-10-11_00004.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28554413/2015-10-11_00001.jpg[/IMG] This waterbase design of my is using a lot of blocks ( the walls around the building. ) The problem is now. I cant create the same walls anymore in the water. ( i think, or it will cost me like triple the amounth of stones. ) So the argument for removing the blocks is invalide in my opinion and they should aks the opinion ( poll ) of the community first, and not just remove it because... yea that comment ( [url]http://playrust.com/devblog-84/[/url] )[/QUOTE] Great Work!!!

[QUOTE=Thewishmaster;49014846]Atleast its better to not get your base put full of stone blocks when you get hacked or raided so I think its a good thing[/QUOTE] If you get raided down to your cupboard, you don't own the house anymore. Once you lose control of the build zone, there are plenty of ways to grief a house without the half-block. And are we really going to justify dumbing down the building system because EAC can't address the hacking? [QUOTE=Thewishmaster;49014846]we will get something else soon i'm sure[/QUOTE] Your avatar is aptly-named.

So far, the decision for removing the half-blocks and conventional stairs is: "People found new ways to use them, and we don't like that." Is that correct?

[QUOTE=Maximum Over;49014895]So far, the decision for removing the half-blocks and conventional stairs is: "People found new ways to use them, and we don't like that." Is that correct?[/QUOTE] Maybe he's smart enough to know that in Early Access, almost all activity is good activity. This update was light on content. Manufacture some drama by doing something pointless and irritating, and everyone rushes online and starts talking about Rust.

As admin of servers and same of commetarys above, blocks and stairs are ESSENCIAL to build big buildings in different areas. Is impossible to flat the uneven terrain without them. Please bring them back so we are able to build great structures

[QUOTE=ZombieKerriga;49015001]As admin of servers and same of commetarys above, blocks and stairs are ESSENCIAL to build big buildings in different areas. Is impossible to flat the uneven terrain without them. Please bring them back so we are able to build great structures[/QUOTE] Well we do have foundation steps still, so not all is lost. What I don't accept is the reason why they were removed. There are several exploits with blocks/stairs that needed addressing: 1. Being able to put a cupboard on a slanted block to obtain non-horizontal half-spheres. There were videos of this and I feel it was a form of exploit or at the very least non-intended use of stairs. 2. Being able to put crates on slanted stairs and have them stick though the floor, allowing transfer of items through ceilings/floors. This allowed players to make "suicide" rooms. Again, non-intended use of both slanted blocks and crates 3. Being able to make fake foundations by using blocks/foundation steps (this doesn't have to do with blocks directly, but not being able to snap floors to foundations -- and people were using blocks to get around this limitation). While I agree all of these were exploits and eventually had to be fixed, removing blocks and slanted stairs was not the solution. Shelves were never a problem... Half levels were never a problem... "Slit" windows were never a problem... So basically they removed 3 nice "think out of the box" features that blocks/slanted blocks allowed and "fixed" 3 exploits. Why not just fix the exploits? Just don't allow cupboards to sit on slanted blocks. Just don't allow chests to protrude through floors/walls/etc. As for the fake floors, these were only a problem because you could stick chests through floors... No point having a hidden room if you can't transfer stuff to and from it. Besides, what's wrong with having a hidden room in your foundations? They are easily identified (floors have stability, foundations do not), they are raidable just as any wall/floor.. Wrong solution........... And finally of course, don't tease us with new stuff.. Wanna remove blocks to fix shelves and bunker slits? Fine, give us shelves and bunker slits and THEN remove the blocks... I fear this will be like cars, riddable horses, raiding ladders, satellite events, etc... We'll get those shelves and arrow slits in 2024... if ever.

I hope Facepunch understands how furious I am about this. I don't understand how this update is supposed to help, but I am EXTREMELY OCD. I use half-height blocks to create walls to protect my base. Without this, I will need to not only have completely flat land that has no varying height requirements, and not be able to build nearly as tall of buildings because of integrity. I've been playing this game since July and now I'm done. Fuck you, Facepunch. I bought your game because it was fun to build. I've killed 15 people in the 5 months I've had this game. I'm not a raider, I'm not a cheater...I'm a builder. I scavenge what I need and then create beautiful architecture. Now you've stopped that. You've messed with something that brings me so much joy...and now I'm done. I hope it was worth it to punish thousands that don't deserve it...

[QUOTE='Deicide[RS];49014567']Fix the exploits instead of removing features and add the replacements before removing stuff you wish to replace. That is all.[/QUOTE] Couldn't agree more. Add the new shit before removing stuff that people currently use. Not to mention that people actually DO use the removed parts as intended.

[QUOTE=Applehoof;49015135]I hope Facepunch understands how furious I am about this. I don't understand how this update is supposed to help, but I am EXTREMELY OCD. I use half-height blocks to create walls to protect my base. Without this, I will need to not only have completely flat land that has no varying height requirements, and not be able to build nearly as tall of buildings because of integrity. I've been playing this game since July and now I'm done. Fuck you, Facepunch. I bought your game because it was fun to build. I've killed 15 people in the 5 months I've had this game. I'm not a raider, I'm not a cheater...I'm a builder. I scavenge what I need and then create beautiful architecture. Now you've stopped that. You've messed with something that brings me so much joy...and now I'm done. I hope it was worth it to punish thousands that don't deserve it...[/QUOTE] Not only that, but walls cannot do what blocks can. Blocks are sturdy and viable for building walls or extending the foundation without causing an adverse height. I just hopped into a random server and tried building...it's disgusting. If I could, I would grab the nearest Facepunch dev and shake them...why the fuck would they remove something so integral to my OCD habits? Why stop there? Why not remove snap building all together and have us eyeball the next wall or foundation? Who the fuck cares anymore, right? You have utterly destroyed my desire to play, Facepunch. I paid $20 and I deserve to have fun. Not like this...you clearly don't care about your community when you just do something without asking us. So what now? What's the next thing you're going to add? I created an account on these forums just for this. I am sickened how little you care about us. You lock our character appearance, change things integral to our enjoyment of the game, and now you do this...never asking once if it's something we desire. Fuck you guys. Fuck you all. I'm done playing as long as this bullshit is still gone by next week.

With C4 having no splash damage, half blocks are actually awesome for building wall cores to make 3-ply outer walls. A stack of 2 half blocks with a wall on each side make a pretty damn hardened outer wall to a building that takes a lot of C4 to breach. To me, this was by far the most valuable use of half blocks.

they said they would add shelves and new types of windows but what about people that like using half block stairs instead of the crappy U-shape and L-shape stairs? what can they implement to replace those so we can get our ramps back?

What's wrong with the u shaped or L shaped stairs they work fine and take up less space

Please garry for the love of god read this thread and appreciate the creativity that your game inspired. Please don't remove features just because they are being used in a way that you think is "wrong". These bases will no longer exist. Please reconsider adding the half block and the stairs and maybe in a few weeks add a shelf if you think it will make the game better. Removing these building pieces is removing content and quality from the game.

[QUOTE=halfhand2012;49015587]What's wrong with the u shaped or L shaped stairs they work fine and take up less space[/QUOTE] ummm they don't line up with doorways they cant be used to level out floors and walls so your floors aren't in the middle of your doors I rather use ladders then those L and U shaped stairs any day but that's not the point the main point people are trying to make here is a lot of the building design requires these blocks because the ground is to unlevel I tried to do a test build today so I can have a test build for after the wipe and I cant build it because my floors and walls cant be level out now so I can connect to other building my floors are half way into the doors roof isn't level so basicly I abandon the build seeing its no long possible to build nice building in rust which im sure a lot of people will find out after the force wipe this thursday of how much they depended on these half blocks when they are forced to try to build with out them

[QUOTE=Crunchmeister;49015245]With C4 having no splash damage, half blocks are actually awesome for building wall cores to make 3-ply outer walls. A stack of 2 half blocks with a wall on each side make a pretty damn hardened outer wall to a building that takes a lot of C4 to breach. To me, this was by far the most valuable use of half blocks.[/QUOTE] I absolutely agree with this and have used this for virtually every base I construct, and why I haven't seen anyone else point this out is quite interesting, imo. I was going to get a little creative with interior corridors as well, with sentry turrets strategically placed and using my half-block-walls to almost 'force' the raider through my sentry guarded halls and corridors. Back to the drawing board...

ok, the poll is close now. Garry, what you think about it?

[QUOTE=guru80;49045564]ok, the poll is close now. Garry, what you think about it?[/QUOTE] 69 voters actually care :V

Well. Few weeks ago the polls were very important, because of all the troubles they had with the patches. Im wondering if this poll will do the same. But, yea.