Fear of being banned - Rust

Hi, Even before i bought RUST i have always had that fear that one day i will get banned for no reason. I never used any hack and i'm not going to do this but i'm so unlucky... Then i won't even come here to defend myself because i know nobody will belive me and everyone on my friends list will think i am a cheater:/ Am i the only one thinking like that? Was there ever a case of someone really being banned by mistake? Yes i know... everyone here is banned by mistake. What i am scared the most is that some kind of virus (i am using antivirus software) is messing somehow with processes being run and EAC will read that as an attempt to cheat. Maybe i am just paranoid:D

I'd definitely say that's paranoia on your end. Unless the virus somehow manipulates your copy of the game to make you invincible or somehow give you things that you normally have to work for, I don't see how you'd get EAC banned from having a virus on your computer. Just keep your nose clean (basically avoid going to any sites that offer free or paid Rust hacks/cheats/exploits and downloading said things), and you should be fine. Though, if your paranoia is really getting to you, you could also take the more extreme route and just completely reinstall your OS before your start playing the game for the first time (assuming you haven't yet already).

If your antivirus interfered with EAC, the way you'd find out is that EAC would simply refuse to start and would display symptoms that'd go away when the antivirus was disabled or an exception was added into the av for Rust and EAC. If your antivirus is injecting things into Rust's memory, which [I]could[/I] in theory trigger a detection, you might want to look into uninstalling that antivirus and getting a better one.

No worries. EAC only bans for definite [B]Rust[/B] cheat detections. It won't ban you for using single player cheats or cheats with other games. In order to get EAC banned the hack needs to be loaded inside Rust game memory. What comes to viruses and trojans; on some very rare cases they might interfere with EAC causing the game to crash, but never get you banned (as they are not cheats). EAC does not scan your HDD for files so you wouldn't get banned even if you would have some Rust cheat files on your hard disk. The cheat needs to be loaded. For every ban we also store a piece of the game memory as evidence. This evidence is then stored indefinitely and can be re-analyzed aferwards. For more info check this: [url]http://www.easyanticheat.net/privacy/[/url]

There are living examples of what you're talking about. I'll link the video below, but basically the Superbunnyhop guy was VAC banned for downloading a mod for a game he owned on steam. He goes on to discuss the zero-appeal policy VAC has, and the extremely small group that it affects. This cheating scourge is nasty stuff, and fighting it means getting a little bit dirty too. Just look at Batman. To be brutally honest, I've actually thought about that myself. I've put thousands of hours into Rust alone on my account, and if I ever caught a false positive, it would pretty much shut down my ambition to continue for the remainder of my days. I'm sure it does happen...but I'm also sure that NONE of the threads about EAC bans on this forum are included in that group. They are straight up cheaters who choose the "thread of shame" route. Never ever gets old seeing which divisive route they choose when wording their story. Anyway, Observe: [video=youtube;FG6fo34JOAk]http://youtu.be/FG6fo34JOAk[/video]

Dark Souls II stopped using VAC almost immediately because of the ridiculous false positive rate, but FROM maintain their own cheat detection. Rust has used VAC for two years, and EAC was rolled in during the experimental branch. Also, VAC is not "Zero appeal". If you have a legitimate false positive situation, you [I]will[/I] be unbanned. [t]http://www.vacbanned.com/images/seth_ban.png[/t] However, if someone says they were falsely VAC banned and Steam Support doesn't agree, they're lying. Cheat forums explicitly instruct banned cheaters to lie. It's a campaign to stain anticheat reputations by throwing doubt onto them - and if the anticheat makers are intimidated enough to reveal screenshot proof, that'll be info the cheat writers can use to bypass detection. I have seen one thread on FP where EAC said "oops, this is a false positive, we'll remove your unban, sorry" and it was not later reinstated. So, it's happened once, that I'm aware of, and it was quite recent. There have also been a few glitches where Rust servers started acting like people were EAC-banned and threw error messages indicating that at players... even though those players were never added to the EAC banlist (and so there never even was a false positive to begin with, just the server puking and assuming random people are cheaters).

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49459187]Cheat forums explicitly instruct banned cheaters to lie. It's a campaign to stain anticheat reputations by throwing doubt onto them - and if the anticheat makers are intimidated enough to reveal screenshot proof, that'll be info the cheat writers can use to bypass detection.[/QUOTE] Damn that makes a lot of sense. Crafty little shits...

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49459187]I have seen one thread on FP where EAC said "oops, this is a false positive, we'll remove your unban, sorry" and it was not later reinstated. So, it's happened once, that I'm aware of, and it was quite recent.[/QUOTE] Yes, this is true. It was the server-side anti-cheat that sent corrupted data to our back-end and at the same time the player was reported to be hacking on twitter. This caused automatic ban to trigger as the server-side data showed the player to be flying on the sky and at the same time he was reported on twitter to be cheating. After the user complained of being banned falsely we ofcourse double-checked the detection data which made no sense so we lifted the ban. For every EAC ban there needs to be a solid evidence that can be re-evaluated. All of these bans that people are complaining are valid bans which we have double-checked. We always double-check if someone complaints. [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49459187]Cheat forums explicitly instruct banned cheaters to lie. It's a campaign to stain anticheat reputations by throwing doubt onto them - and if the anticheat makers are intimidated enough to reveal screenshot proof, that'll be info the cheat writers can use to bypass detection.[/QUOTE] This is also true. This is why we don't even tell the cheat name. We don't mind replying to complaints. We love what we do. [I]We believe in exploring the limits of what is possible, thereby doing something exciting and meaningful. As a result, EasyAntiCheat exists around a shared love of gaming, excellence, and programming.[/I]

Thank You for explanations. So i should be fine then:D If anyone is interested in my responses: - being invincible or getting free stuff: only on those "creative" servers to test buildings - reinstalling OS: last time i did it few years ago but my system is running with no problems. - antivirus: KiS 2013. Before installing RUST i've also used adwcleaner and ccleaner. - cheating in other games: only those IDDQD kind of cheats long time ago:D

I love you EAC guys. Full homo, I don't even care. Thanks for your hard work.

I've been playing Rust on and off for nearly three years. My brother sometimes plays it too on my Steam profile. I've never been anti cheat banned. If you and/or any family members have the common sense to not use any of the "cheats" floating around, you are golden. I bring up my brother as he is going to be 28 years old and as such knows not to use any "cheats", unlike the alleged "brother" that ruined many so called victims Rust account. If EAC or VAC really do start issuing false positives, it usually affects several hundred to several thousand people almost instantly as opposed to a handful of people every week or so. The last time it happened with EAC they acknowledged it rather quickly and had it ironed out in a few hours.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49459281]I love you EAC guys. Full homo, I don't even care. Thanks for your hard work.[/QUOTE] Thanks! [IMG]http://puu.sh/mkhmN/f40b6590fd.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE='[EAC] nago;49459165']No worries. EAC only bans for definite [B]Rust[/B] cheat detections. It won't ban you for using single player cheats or cheats with other games. In order to get EAC banned the hack needs to be loaded inside Rust game memory. What comes to viruses and trojans; on some very rare cases they might interfere with EAC causing the game to crash, but never get you banned (as they are not cheats). EAC does not scan your HDD for files so you wouldn't get banned even if you would have some Rust cheat files on your hard disk. The cheat needs to be loaded. For every ban we also store a piece of the game memory as evidence. This evidence is then stored indefinitely and can be re-analyzed aferwards. For more info check this: [url]http://www.easyanticheat.net/privacy/[/url][/QUOTE] I like the way you guys operate!

I was thinking of that stuff too. I have been playing with mods for fallout4 just like what I did on skyrim to make the game more visual intensive. I got my mods from the Nexus But reading this I would be ok using mods for a game like fallout? [editline]5th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=raz r23;49460282]I was thinking of that stuff too. I have been playing with mods for fallout4 just like what I did on skyrim to make the game more visual intensive. I got my mods from the Nexus But reading this I would be ok using mods for a game like fallout?[/QUOTE] being said that rest and some of these games mods are most likely loaded in the RAM? Ah fml

EAC only cares about Rust hacks. Free feel to mod Fallout 4 as much as you like. Great game btw (level 35).

[QUOTE='[EAC] nago;49459259']We love what we do. [I]We believe in exploring the limits of what is possible, thereby doing something exciting and meaningful. As a result, EasyAntiCheat exists around a shared love of gaming, excellence, and programming.[/I][/QUOTE] Aarni Rautava was fourteen years old at the time of foundation of the company, and was hacking games and enjoyed destroying gaming communities. His mission was to destroy finnish anti-cheat communities. At some point Aarni met Valtteri Kiviniemi online and threatened to destroy Valtteri’s servers. Valtteri challenged Aarni to create an anti-cheat which could not be hacked and Aarni took the bait. Thankfully, Aarni did a 180 eh? Glad you guys arent on the other side of the aisle anymore [URL="https://www.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/83595/THESISVARAJARVI.pdf?sequence=1"]https://www.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/83595/THESISVARAJARVI.pdf?sequence=1[/URL]