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You do all realise that GMod roleplay is dead, correct? You may see servers, running fancy scripts like "BluePrint" and "TacoScript2" and "CakeScriptG2" But those aren't really roleplay servers. Those are "Pretend it's so realistic to the point it's not fun at all and then rage against others community and start a large server war resulting in someone buying a script and with the script sellers income he starts another flame war resulting in the end of roleplay." Now that you understand, what you see in GMod today, it isn't roleplaying. It's the results of a unmature, unfriendly, troll filled, power hungry, non-cooperative community of "roleplayers" trying to have fun with something that is only fun with the opposite of what the community is. If you want roleplay, and you want to have fun, there is a lot better games you can play, first of all, you have Multi User Dungeons(MUDs), and then of course, my personal favourite, and the game I've fully switched to... [b]Arma II[/b] and it's variants( Operation Arrowhead, Combined Operations ) the community is mostly filled with mature and older players, as it is one of the more unknown, and more difficult games to play( therefore making it have a more mature player-base ). Arma II provides the user with a huge world, with the most realistic military simulator in the world. The modular AddOns you can create, and download, make mostly anything in this game virtually possible. If you're trying to roleplay, and have fun, and be with a good community. That's a good game for roleplaying. I just can't help but say something about all these terrible roleplaying servers that think they're roleplay. [b] They aren't! [/b] And knowing this forum, and GMods roleplay community, I'll more than likely be shunned and flamed for posting this. That just proves more of an example of what i'm talking about. [url]www.17thMEU.com[/url] [url]http://www.15thmeu.net/[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDRCfJBsv8&feature=player_embedded[/url]

Thank you for telling us your opinion.

Yeah, I hear this a lot.

[QUOTE=Kaleb;24276926]Yeah, I hear this a lot.[/QUOTE] Probably from those who are correct, and those who have realised it.

There is truth in this topic.

[QUOTE=SL0WP0KE;24276960]There is truth in this topic.[/QUOTE] I tried to explain it the best I could, Also for anyone that is interested in trying out a specific style of Arma 2 roleplaying, it's more on the light side, this style is called Realism. It's extreme re-enactment of a military division, or multiple divisions, with ranks, and the sort. Visit [url]www.17thmeu.com[/url] to apply , and to read for information. You can also connect to the teamspeak with the following information: [b]Adress[/b] ts37.gameservers.com [b]Port[/b] 9125 [b]Password[/b] Canadia I'm in here for any questions you may want to ask about anything, along with the leader and a few members of the unit.

Its an opinion. Simply due to the different types of RP. Theres ultra serious ones (the ones that aren't fun to most), lite, easy ones. Then ones that have enough seriousness that you cant say lol in IC, but you wont be permaed for it. Yes, most of the good and fun ones are gone. But the ultra serious ones still put you in the shoes of someone else, and while most people dont like this, they still FORCE RP the way the script creator likes it.

Hah, that is not what you think it is my friend, I can't explain it better than what I said in the thread, you can call that roleplaying all you want, but the community it's formed inside of, will [b]always[/b] be bad, simply due to the roleplay community GMod provides.

So if I went ahead and made a private roleplaying server for my friends, with our interpretation of how we should roleplay, its wrong?

[QUOTE=chuck14;24277219]So if I went ahead and made a private roleplaying server for my friends, with our interpretation of how we should roleplay, its wrong?[/QUOTE] You clearly don't understand, I'm not going to explain it to you. Those who have realised what I'm saying, they will know.

Cool. So you did kind of come here to advertise your arma roleplay server.

[QUOTE=crackberry;24281323]Cool. So you did kind of come here to advertise your arma roleplay server.[/QUOTE] 17cav is easily the largest ARMAII community and have about 100 regular official players and a further 200 or so who regularly play with them and join in on their Teamspeak. They don't need advertising.

"RP" On Gmod has basically devolved in two two categories. DarkRP servers full of retarded 12 year olds running around with scripted jobs, disregarding what RP actually is. These servers are admittedly fun for a little while, but as soon as somebody picks the lock of your door, shoots you, and steals all of your belongings it dawns on you that you've just wasted so much of your time. You also have to keep in mind that it's not actually a gamemode where anyone roleplays. And Cakescript/Tacoscript/Whatever servers, which are essentially too "realistic" for their own good. They're set in stale environments with absolutely nothing of interest going on. Most of the "RP" consists of making small-talk with one another. There's absolutely no driving force or motivation to do anything, and many people have such a broad view of what minging is that they'll ban you if you walk around with the phys gun out.

[QUOTE=LauScript;24276806] If you want roleplay, and you want to have fun, there is a lot better games you can play, first of all, you have Multi User Dungeons(MUDs), and then of course, my personal favourite, and the game I've fully switched to... [/QUOTE]If you want to actually role-play, pen-and-paper role-playing games are far superior to any video game, are fucking fun to play with friends, and you avoid the e-drama and immaturity that you find in online RP communities.

As some of you know i am patching up GmodRP. But i am just worried that people find it boring and leave the game, because there are no weapons. Any ideas how to spice something like that up? (since i hear you guys talking about it)

Oh this again.

The RP forum is more opinions then actual RP discussions those days

[QUOTE=darth-veger;24285744]As some of you know i am patching up GmodRP. But i am just worried that people find it boring and leave the game, because there are no weapons. Any ideas how to spice something like that up? (since i hear you guys talking about it)[/QUOTE] Give up on gmodrp, its not worth it. Sure it got potential but the gmodrp name is completly ruined thanks to slob. If i were you edit so thats is something new but still kinda the same. With a other name.

So true, i'm tired of "serious roleplaying" drama. We need more original and fun roleplaying.

Personally, the only game that i play where i actually roleplay nowadays is actually a really old one, the original NWN game. If you should find yourself playing this game, you should really check out "City of Arabel", As it is, in my oppinion, the best roleplaying server there is, everyone, and i mean everyone, i've only seen about two or three people who where not erxactly roleplayers in all my three years of playing there, and best of all, one of them actually become a damn good roleplayer later on.

[QUOTE=LauScript;24277299]You clearly don't understand, I'm not going to explain it to you. Those who have realised what I'm saying, they will know.[/QUOTE] Send me the Cakescript with fixed anims then, since I dont feel like using Nexus, and have plans for [sp]Starcraft Roleplay[/sp]

:sigh: first everyone was screaming shit about that seriousRP should come back and now we all want the fun/unserious back

There's already one of these threads on this page, couldn't you have waited a week before posting this shite? I can assure you that serious GmodRP is not 'dead', for the month or so I had my server up I was well aware that the regular and new members were enjoying themselves inside of a serious environment. There were no server wars, there was no drama that wasn't dealt with immediately and everything went smoothly after the launch. I hate all of you roleplay 'Philosophers', who turn up one day and suddenly begin to make the same shitty thread every week that's filled with opinion, arrogance and little to no evidence to back up any of your claims. [QUOTE=LauScript;24277299]You clearly don't understand, I'm not going to explain it to you. [B]Those who have realised what I'm saying, they will know.[/B] [I]Nothing says roleplay philosopher like an unsupported claim.[/I][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LauScript;24276806]You do all realise that GMod roleplay is dead, correct? You may see servers, running fancy scripts like "BluePrint" and "TacoScript2" and "CakeScriptG2" [I]Uh, yeah, those are the main roleplaying scripts. Nice one.[/I] But those aren't really roleplay servers. [I]No support for this claim? Okaaay, I'll hope you go into this in the next paragraph.[/I] Those are "Pretend it's so realistic to the point it's not fun at all and then rage against others community and start a large server war resulting in someone buying a script and with the script sellers income he starts another flame war resulting in the end of roleplay." [I]Whoa, that's a generalisation and a half right there, don't you think? What do community wars have to do with serious roleplay, did you even read this shit over in your head. You stick out as a dame in some overly melodramatic pantomime when you say "resulting in the end of roleplay", maybe it's time to stop exaggerating and start providing [B]evidence[/B]? [/I] Now that you understand, what you see in GMod today, it isn't roleplaying. It's the results of a unmature, unfriendly, troll filled, power hungry, non-cooperative community of "roleplayers" trying to have fun with something that is only fun with the opposite of what the community is. [I]Again with massive generalisations, all you've done here is add a summary to a bunch of opinions in what seems to be an attempt to recreate a 12 mark history essay.[/I][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LauScript;24276806]And knowing this forum, and GMods roleplay community, I'll more than likely be shunned and flamed for posting this. [I]Bullshit, you just took this line from every single roleplay philosopher thread out there, you don't exactly need to look far to see that they always stick this in here so that they can say "It's okay, just the stupid commoners, their views are all wrong and no matter what they say I can put it down to this being a shitty community."[/I][/QUOTE] I won't make a large argument, since doing so would make me stoop to the born again roleplayer level. [quote=Metanar]I'll just wait for the typical Vinze post.[/quote] [QUOTE=cbrain;24286786]Oh this again.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=darth-veger;24286824]The RP forum is more opinions then actual RP discussions those days[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/rating/tick.png[/img]

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Gentleman, lets face it. We are facing the end of the Gmod RP era.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;24295657]Gentleman, lets face it. We are facing the end of the Gmod RP era.[/QUOTE] How come the majority of the RP section - no, the entire section - is all e-drama, and no RP? It's not dead. More of this drama has started up, and it's the same thing as always: Overexaggeration. Serious RP and Lite RP communities alike are very popular, and people have fun on them. Whichever one is your type of RP, is your decision. Stop shitting in this section, seriously. :colbert:

I see what you did there OP. You rant how Gmod Roleplay sucks. Then you provide an advertisement to an Arma 2 Roleplay server. Home>Garry's Mod>Garry's mod Discussion>Roleplaying. E-Drama and trolling is everywhere. Get used to it.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;24295657]Gentleman, lets face it. We are facing the end of the Gmod RP era.[/QUOTE] We already faced it, back in 2008. [QUOTE=Laferio;24305239]I see what you did there OP. You rant how Gmod Roleplay sucks. Then you provide an advertisement to an Arma 2 Roleplay server. Home>Garry's Mod>Garry's mod Discussion>Roleplaying. E-Drama and trolling is everywhere. Get used to it.[/QUOTE] The advertisement isn't hosted by me, nor involved with me, it's simply a good server. It's also not a "roleplay" server, it's more of a tactical server with a sort of "roleplay" feel. And why not advertise a good environment to play in, it's a good example, and if people want to try it, I gave them a place to try it on. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDRCfJBsv8&feature=player_embedded[/url] [QUOTE=elowin;24287543]Personally, the only game that i play where i actually roleplay nowadays is actually a really old one, the original NWN game. If you should find yourself playing this game, you should really check out "City of Arabel", As it is, in my oppinion, the best roleplaying server there is, everyone, and i mean everyone, i've only seen about two or three people who where not erxactly roleplayers in all my three years of playing there, and best of all, one of them actually become a damn good roleplayer later on.[/QUOTE] Played there. It's good. [QUOTE=Metanar;24291457] -lol- [/QUOTE] So, what other games have you roleplayed in. Also yeah, your server lasted a MONTH. Amazing. Also, here's a good video to watch people [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDRCfJBsv8&feature=player_embedded[/url] Not really related to roleplaying, but imagine doing that seriously in a roleplaying environment. That's realism units,

[QUOTE=Savaril;24282838]"RP" On Gmod has basically devolved in two two categories. DarkRP servers full of retarded 12 year olds running around with scripted jobs, disregarding what RP actually is. These servers are admittedly fun for a little while, but as soon as somebody picks the lock of your door, shoots you, and steals all of your belongings it dawns on you that you've just wasted so much of your time. You also have to keep in mind that it's not actually a gamemode where anyone roleplays. And Cakescript/Tacoscript/Whatever servers, which are essentially too "realistic" for their own good. They're set in stale environments with absolutely nothing of interest going on. Most of the "RP" consists of making small-talk with one another. There's absolutely no driving force or motivation to do anything, and many people have such a broad view of what minging is that they'll ban you if you walk around with the phys gun out.[/QUOTE] Your point? I mean, you're stating precisely what's wrong with each. But can we fix it? Can we make it better? Can we make it enjoyable? You're stating the obvious, what has been said oh so many times, but the solutions, the viable options are what people don't see, that's why they panic. Let's go with DarkRP first. Is it flawed? Yes. Is it awfully designed? Yes. Is it meant to target kids? Yes. There's no need to even attempt to change any of it because it's flawed by nature, and people like their flawed stuff. Leave it aside. But serious RP servers. Picture it for a second. Does it have potential to be played, does it have gameplay? The answer to both is no. If you put it in a way, serious RP is the biggest amount of bullshit anyone has ever seen, stand around pretending to be someone else and self regulate yourself to not use guns at random, or in many cases, have any aide except for text. You must talk, because that's the only tool you're actually given, a chatbox. So why? Why so many people like each one of these gamemodes? Let's look into it: First, DarkRP. Why is DarkRP so fun? Because there's nothing like it anywhere else. It's every kids dream, what every developer out there actually wants to do, a game where you have a job and you do whatever the fuck you want with it. It immerses you ( for a little while at least ), into believing you HAVE to play a job. Picture Counter Strike's gameplay, then picture DarkRP's. Which one is more redeeming, more fun? Shooting people, or shooting people for a reason? Second, "serious RP". It's every game developer's nightmare, it's the Seinfeld of games, a game about NOTHING, where you do NOTHING but type. How can possibly something like this be fun? It's the same logic behind text based games, D&D, LARPing. Our inherently imaginative nature fills the blanks, and provides a much more clearer view than any computer screen can provide. Essentially, with the right mood, and the right amount of information and stimulation, you can feel like you're there, like you are the character. Hence why people cyber. Horny folk take advantage of the sheer immersion you get out of some RP servers, and use it to get off. Some say it's character development, I just call it wild hormones.