For the average person needing some quick answers, hopefully this thread can provide a few.
[h2]The Game you're trying to play is using a newer / older version of the game you're running[/h2]
If it says the server is older, it needs updating. If it says newer, you need to update.
[B]What is Steampipe?
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Steampipe is a system that allows developers (or publishers) to push an update through Steam without having to push it through Valve first, who would then (eventually) push it out globally. This means that should any game-breaking bugs suddenly arise in the game, Garry now has the power to roll back or push out a fix near-instantly. Another upside is the way the game mounts content, it actually makes launching of the game and other things slightly faster.
[B]Okay, so how do I get this "Steampipe" version?
[/B]Launch the game and it'll ask to convert the content. Please make sure you back up any critical content as the transition may [B]not[/B] be smooth.
Should you not be getting this question, then validate your game content instead. It should start downloading all the files.
[B]From a dedicated server standpoint, what does this mean?
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You no longer use hldsupdatertool to grab your files, instead you use [URL="https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD"]SteamCMD[/URL]. [U]Make sure you run SteamCMD at least once normally before you use it. [/U]
[U]​hldsupdater tool is now defunct and can be ignored. [/U]
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What is the ID for the Garrysmod Dedicated Server files?
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4020
[B]I have a server and content like CSS is no longer being mounted!
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Due to the way the Steampipe works, mounting now has to be explicitly stated in a file. For GSP's this is great because you can have a basic install in one location instead of having to ship the cstrike / tf / ep2 content with every server. For more informatipn - [URL]http://wiki.garrysmod.com/page/Mounting_Content_on_a_DS[/URL]
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I've updated my server, yet it still says out of date?
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The base file path to the dedicated server has now changed. Previously it would be something like X:/MyServer/Path/Orangebox/Garrysmod. Instead it's now just X:/MyServer/Path/Garrysmod. Effectively it's climbed up a tree directory-wise.
[B]What happens to .GCF Files?[/B]
Totally unusable. There has been mention of Garrysmod getting its own version of Hammer and so on, but whether or not these will appear, no one knows.
[B]Mounting content like EP1 / EP2 on dedicated servers
[/B][URL]http://wiki.garrysmod.com/page/Mounting_content_on_Dedicated_Servers[/URL]
[B]My dedicated server didn't move my files for me?
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The dedicated server won't perform any moving or transitioning of files. You must manually move them.
[B]How can I tell if my version is Steampipe in game?
[/B]Look in the top right corner, if it says 165 (or above), that's Steampipe.
[B]
X (usually CSS) content isn't working in the game!
[/B]Launch the game, make sure it's running on Steampipe and also ensure it's mounted in your Garrysmod by pressing the [IMG]http://teddi.eu/ss/2013-06-05_22-51-57.png[/IMG] button in the main menu.
Hmm. When I launch Garry's Mod, I can only see, like, 10 servers. Is this an issue on my end or have owners just not updated stuff?
Unless I missed it, I don't think I saw my game ask to convert.
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;40910263]Hmm. When I launch Garry's Mod, I can only see, like, 10 servers. Is this an issue on my end or have owners just not updated stuff?
Unless I missed it, I don't think I saw my game ask to convert.[/QUOTE]
It's still being pushed through the system. Try restarting steam first.
I don't understand why you have to convert all of your content before you can even play the game. It seems like a big waste of time. Half the time, something goes wrong and ends up corrupting everything.
[QUOTE=Squerl101;40910309]I don't understand why you have to convert all of your content before you can even play the game. It seems like a big waste of time. Half the time, something goes wrong and ends up corrupting everything.[/QUOTE]
Because the filesystem behind Steampipe has changed from what we used to use. For the most part it fixes many issues (such as the validate Gmod first time launching) and so on. At worst you lose some content from what I've seen.
I have indeed noticed the loss of content. I have to say that not having to validate the game is a great thing.
I must've accidentally clicked the "ignore" option on the window that comes up asking if I would like to switch. It doesn't appear anymore and the server list only has 8-10 servers up with 3 players.
Is there any way to manually switch over without having to accept that window?
[QUOTE=Kool Kids Klub;40910393]I must've accidentally clicked the "ignore" option on the window that comes up asking if I would like to switch. It doesn't appear anymore and the server list only has 8-10 servers up with 3 players.
Is there any way to manually switch over without having to accept that window?[/QUOTE]
Validate game content.
Has this hit yet, bit confusing as I can still join non steam pipe servers and my client won't update.
It has indeed hit. Try validating your content.
I would also like to point out that some server owners are having trouble setting up their server, some like myself haven't even updated yet.
[QUOTE=Teddi Orange;40910619]It has indeed hit. Try validating your content.[/QUOTE]
I've 9 people on teamspeak, none are seeing the update.
While I'm sure it will hit if I validate, the point is your average player isn't going to do this so updating the servers and having half the gmod community running 164 the other 165 isn't a great situation.
[QUOTE=Pantho;40910680]I've 9 people on teamspeak, none are seeing the update.
While I'm sure it will hit if I validate, the point is your average player isn't going to do this so updating the servers and having half the gmod community running 164 the other 165 isn't a great situation.[/QUOTE]
I'm presuming that a switch hasn't been flicked somewhere, as some I've talked to have had the questions, others haven't.
[QUOTE=Kool Kids Klub;40910393]I must've accidentally clicked the "ignore" option on the window that comes up asking if I would like to switch. It doesn't appear anymore and the server list only has 8-10 servers up with 3 players.
Is there any way to manually switch over without having to accept that window?[/QUOTE]
It actually asks you if you want to switch or not?
How could I have missed something like that?
Not asked me, least not that I saw.
I'm updating one of my servers now, I'll update the others once the switch has been flicked.
[QUOTE=Squerl101;40910738]It actually asks you if you want to switch or not?
How could I have missed something like that?[/QUOTE]
If you have seen it on other games it does actually say that it says something more like "Steam needs to convert your game files for XYZ to a more efficient format, would you like to do this now?"
[B]EDIT:
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I closed the game and just waited then an update started so we shall see.
[B]
EDIT #2:
[/B]In the case of garrysmod it doesn't do the little popup, its like a generic update only there is a stage at the end of the download where it says "installing"
[QUOTE=Effektiv;40910772]If you have seen it on other games it does actually say that it says something more like "Steam needs to convert your game files for XYZ to a more efficient format, would you like to do this now?"[/QUOTE]
I have seen that before, I was just implying that it actually asks you yes or no if you want to convert your content ever again.
I'm going to test updating on our debug servers before pushing this to live servers.
I was only able to get GMod to start updating on my Steam account by forcing validation. Most people aren't going to be doing that.
[QUOTE=Kigen;40910920]I'm going to test updating on our debug servers before pushing this to live servers.
I was only able to get GMod to start updating on my Steam account by forcing validation. Most people aren't going to be doing that.[/QUOTE]
I don't think its that I just think in general its a bit slow on the uptake... Mine just did it after I left it for a bit.
That's another thing I have noticed, it always takes such a long time.
My computer isn't the best of computers though anyway, and I would prefer a SSD over an HDD any day of the year.
[B]FASTER ACCESS FTW[/B]
You can set the beta on ep2/1 to download the steampipe version,
I don't know if its me but after the update my Server List options seem a bit broken.
[B]Internet[/B] - Has No servers on it.
[B]History[/B] - Seems to have many if not all the servers on it.
[B]Favorites[/B] - Has servers on it.
[B]Refresh Listings[/B] - Seems to update my servers listed in history or favorites.
[B]Legacy Browser[/B] - Doesn't seem to open or do anything.
[QUOTE=Effektiv;40911326]I don't know if its me but after the update my Server List options seem a bit broken.
[B]Internet[/B] - Has No servers on it.
[B]History[/B] - Seems to have many if not all the servers on it.
[B]Favorites[/B] - Has servers on it.
[B]Refresh Listings[/B] - Seems to update my servers listed in history or favorites.
[B]Legacy Browser[/B] - Doesn't seem to open or do anything.[/QUOTE]
I would give it some time for servers to come back online.
[QUOTE=Teddi Orange;40911345]I would give it some time for servers to come back online.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of that, was just wondering why the legacy browser didn't/doesn't open at all and why I can't get anything at all on Internet but stuff on history and favorites.
[B]\/ Ye thanks, just read that [/B][URL]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1275267[/URL]
Legacy browser is broken. Garry didn't fix it for the update.
It won't work. The 0x1 state after job thing. How to fix?
Thanks.
[code]
Steam>login anonymous
Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...Success.
Steam>force_install_dir c:\gmodserver\
Steam>app_update 4020 validate
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is what I did. But now, it thinks I have no internet even though it perfectly fine connects to steam and any website. -_- Why would steam switch to something so UNSTABLE??? And especially garry D:
...Anyone? :(
Started the game but didn't ask me to converte the game. Also can't play the game because when I click Start game it frozes.
I also have the issue Pantho has.
Cannot connect any server , include my ser
All tell me
[QUOTE]The server you are trying to connect to is running an older version of the game.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=hkben;40912541]Cannot connect any server , include my ser
All tell me[/QUOTE]
Try this, it's one of my servers that never gets any players on so figured I'd use it as the test server for steampipe updates:
192.223.24.129:27015
I've connected to it fine using my steampipe client. However I'm not updating my other servers until clients are forced or at least asked if they want to update to the new system.
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