hey guys! How bout we all make like a global ban list or somethin so if sdomeome's being mingey on a server teh admin can just ban them and they r banned on all gmod servers? Itll be gr8, i know sum php and html and ajax so i could do all the programing, is it good? Id just look at al the bans and decide how long the nub needs to be banned lol! people could just steam friends my saying that someone was cheatin and id go ban them. sounds good right, ima ctually gonna start right now so post your suggestions!
OK, once you're calmed down again:
Most global banning schemes (steambans, etc) are all closed-up. You can never really tell who's banning who for why, beyond a 1 line description that's just about as helpful as a Japanese electronics manual. You join a server and get kicked because, oh noes, you're banned for 'hacing,' and there's nothing you can do about it (protesting bans? OK, well that's just as opaque). On the other side, if you see someone cheating,you take a few screens, maybe a demo if you're really pissed off, and send them off into the black hole of "Submit a Ban" with variable success. It just isn't the greatest all around.
What I'm suggesting would be the opposite. When a ban is submitted, anyone can watch it (and the evidence) progress through the steps towards arriving on the ban list itself. If you're banned, you can simply go find your ban with your steamID or something, watch the incriminating evidence, and then go back to your room and cry into your blanky some more. If, however, you think the ban is illegitimate or too strong, submitted it for review (equally transparent) is easy, too.
Who would do the banning: [B]NOT THE SERVER ADMINS[/B] gosh that's the last time I'm gonna say that. Regular everyday users would submit complaints against someone (with evidence like demos/videos/etc), after which a random selected of people from peer review panel of reliable people (previously rounded up) would check each ban before being approved/denied.
I think this should address all the issues people have had with other systems, includingbutnotlimitedto "omg [I]person x[/I] power trip," "omg abusive server admins," "omg exploitable," etc.
Questions? No, this has nothing to do with [URL="http://easyban.net"]EasyBan[/URL] /shamelessplug
No, that's nearly impossible, and it's not a ValVe game, so it doesn't work that way. If you want something like that, find a website, or make a thread of people who minge around. Other than that if it's your server ban him and your done.
That's not impossible, but it's just so infeasible that no mod/game developer has considered it; people ban for no reason sometimes.
Gosh read the bold text, and accompanying paragraph.
You'd need a whole load of people to review all the bans.
I'm sure someone has suggested this before.
This would hardly be fair. The only system currently capable of giving global bans is VAC, and that is run by Valve, is part of the Steam Subscriber Agreement you agree to when you buy a Steam game and is not enabled on GMod.
The server admins should have the final word on all bans on [b]their own server[/b]. If you don't like the admins bitching about your "mingey" behaviour, leave their server and join one with more lenient admins.
[QUOTE=AcidSoldier;23671597]That's not impossible, but it's just so infeasible that no mod/game developer has considered it; people ban for no reason sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Actually, one SourceMod developer has used a global "modban" system. W0rF0x (butthurt weaboo) included one in Obsidian Conflict and has banned a few people from playing any server on the mod, or even hosting their own. He has banned one of my friends for "grieving" on his official server, even though there were no other players on at the time, and all they were doing was dicking around in vehicles.
It's a shit system.
No, get out.
Never post here again OP
I like the sentiment here, very welcoming and it definitely betrays your personality, which I'm sure carries into your plentiful real-world relations. Wait. Oh burn, anyways, it's just an idea, and would y'all please read the [I]entire [/I]post before replying.
[QUOTE=cpf;23670458]What I'm suggesting would be the opposite. When a ban is submitted, anyone can watch it (and the evidence) progress through the steps towards arriving on the ban list itself. If you're banned, you can simply go find your ban with your steamID or something, watch the incriminating evidence, and then go back to your room and cry into your blanky some more. If, however, you think the ban is illegitimate or too strong, submitted it for review (equally transparent) is easy, too.[/quote]
HEARD IT.
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Who would do the banning: [B]NOT THE SERVER ADMINS[/B] gosh that's the last time I'm gonna say that. Regular everyday users would submit complaints against someone (with evidence like demos/videos/etc), after which a random selected of people from peer review panel of reliable people (previously rounded up) would check each ban before being approved/denied.[/quote]
That's what I was thinking one time it was suggested. It'd need some SERIOUS honesty and rep though. Who the hell are you going to find for the panel?
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I think this should address all the issues people have had with other systems, includingbutnotlimitedto "omg [I]person x[/I] power trip," "omg abusive server admins," "omg exploitable," etc.[/quote]
People can be a bit harsh when they have a shit day. It's happened to me a couple of times. Just a fair warning.
[quote]No, this has nothing to do with [URL="http://easyban.net"]EasyBan[/URL] /shamelessplug[/QUOTE]
I lol'd.
It'd be a much better idea to provide SQL tables and code for people to use. Then they don't have to do anything, yet it's only their bans. Maybe give them an option to import bans from the global database and whatnot though.
[QUOTE=cpf;23699772]I like the sentiment here, very welcoming and it definitely betrays your personality, which I'm sure carries into your plentiful real-world relations. Wait. Oh burn, anyways, it's just an idea, and would y'all please read the [I]entire [/I]post before replying.[/QUOTE]
Congrats OP, you are in possession of an accent and a thesaurus.
If i read this, i wish i could rate dumb, bad spellung and Disagree at the same time :(
This is too much effort - getting everyone, or ordinary people involved. Not to mention the long and bureaucratic process you described. Not worth it. Just let the admin crush them under the ban hammer... I think even having server admins put a list together is a bad idea. Some servers ban people for reasons that admins of another server wouldn't agree upon.. Admins are different, as are players - and server ban lists should stay independent, because there aren't rules that everyone can agree upon. Believe it or not, some servers/people like minges.
Besides, if server admins want to ban everyone that steps out of line even a tiny bit, it's their own fault their server is empty.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;23704462]It'd be a much better idea to provide SQL tables and code for people to use. Then they don't have to do anything, yet it's only their bans. Maybe give them an option to import bans from the global database and whatnot though.[/QUOTE]
It's called EasyBan :v:
Just an idea I had: What about having a system whereby bans are logged to a central server, then admins on other servers (using a derma / vgui menu) can quickly see what percentage of other servers using the system have banned a certain SteamID (maybe with auto-threshold banning)?
^Cool idea
A better system would consist of a database of all servers signed up for the system. Each server would report a list of the SteamIDs of players it has hosted, and whether or not they are banned. An admin on a server running the service would be able to see how many servers someone has played on and how many servers have banned him.
Some sort of autoban feature might work, but I'm strongly against that for a few reasons. If you've only been on a few servers and one banned you for some stupid reason, any other server with autobans would also ban you, making it impossible to get onto any of the servers running the service that have some form of autoban system. Also, you could artificially lower your percentage by joining a ton of servers for a few seconds at a time, creating a log of your presence but making sure you won't be banned. Then, you'd have such a low ban percentage that no autoban system would get you.
A better system would have admins who are considering whether to kick or ban a minge look at their total numbers of bans and/or their ban ratio. Someone who has no bans or only a few servers should probably just be kicked-they're new or don't understand the rules of Garrysmod. People with a lot more bans and total games would be more ban-worthy, since they obviously have a bad reputation.
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[QUOTE=Witty Name;23717117]A better system would consist of a database of all servers signed up for the system. Each server would report a list of the SteamIDs of players it has hosted, and whether or not they are banned. An admin on a server running the service would be able to see how many servers someone has played on and how many servers have banned him.[/QUOTE]
Enjoy networking 18000 players. And that's just from one of my three popular servers.
OK, case closed everyone hates this idea.
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