Looking for a Simple, Modular administrative system.
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I'd like to find a simple but modular administrative system for my Garry's Mod server. By "Simple", I mean that it's just chat / console commands, none of this annoying GUI stuff (like ULX). Are there any like this, or am I going to have to roll my own?
Try Evolve or Exsto.
If you don't like GUI stuff get Evolve simple, good and got many commands.
[QUOTE=Icejjfish;44797435]If you don't like GUI stuff get Evolve simple, good and got many commands.[/QUOTE]I tried out Evolve but I don't like how it just throws it's configuration into an unreadable text file :(
EDIT: Also the UI has no options to configure the server how I want, which sucks :/
[QUOTE=jackwilsdon;44797569]I tried out Evolve but I don't like how it just throws it's configuration into an unreadable text file :(
EDIT: Also the UI has no options to configure the server how I want, which sucks :/[/QUOTE]
That's configuration storage. You can configure what you need in the lua files.
[QUOTE=code_gs;44797680]That's configuration storage. You can configure what you need in the lua files.[/QUOTE][DEL]Can I modify the backend, so I can decide how Evolve saves it's data?[/DEL] Turns out I can't, it's not modular in the way it saves data.
EDIT: I see why it's so ugly, It's using [URL=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1194008]vON[/URL], which is known to look bad.
what's wrong with vON, it's pretty damn fast and flexible too
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;44798170]what's wrong with vON, it's pretty damn fast and flexible too[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with vON, it's just the fact that it's output is ugly, so I can't play around with the configuration files. The concept behind it is great, but the creator stopped supporting "nice mode".
[QUOTE=jackwilsdon;44798881]There's nothing wrong with vON, it's just the fact that it's output is ugly, so I can't play around with the configuration files. The concept behind it is great, but the creator stopped supporting "nice mode".[/QUOTE]
The output is "ugly" because it isn't made for human reading, is simplified and made fast for the computer to read.
Use Exsto - you can store data on your MySQL server, or to SQLite (default).
[QUOTE=Mors Quaedam;44799618]Use Exsto - you can store data on your MySQL server, or to SQLite (default).[/QUOTE]I used Exsto on a server I previously administrated. It's a nice system, but not as simple as I'm looking :/ I guess I'll be rolling my own addon then.
[QUOTE=jackwilsdon;44800016]I used Exsto on a server I previously administrated. It's a nice system, but not as simple as I'm looking :/ I guess I'll be rolling my own addon then.[/QUOTE]
That's the best idea. If none of the existing ones have what you want, make your own.
Is there a way to disable the menu on ULX?
Revoke the xgui_ permissions, I believe.
[QUOTE=Cyberuben;44801249]Revoke the xgui_ permissions, I believe.[/QUOTE]I believe I've done that before, but players still have access. I'll try reinstalling ULX and doing that now. Thanks
[QUOTE=jackwilsdon;44801028]Is there a way to disable the menu on ULX?[/QUOTE]
Just a heads up, but ULX kinda sucks since it detours every hook.
[QUOTE=bliptec;44803170]Just a heads up, but ULX kinda sucks since it detours every hook.[/QUOTE]
Yes but none of the other options even come close to how many features and plugins ULX.
Although moderator does seen promising.
[QUOTE=YourStalker;44803838]Yes but none of the other options even come close to how many features and plugins ULX.
Although moderator does seen promising.[/QUOTE]
However ULX is more of a beginners admin mod. It also overrides a ton of default functions that just make it a hassle. However it is easy to make a plugin for it and there are already TONS of features as you said.
Moderator seems to be quite impressive as it is now. Could be a great one when it's done.
[QUOTE=YourStalker;44803838]Yes but none of the other options even come close to how many features and plugins ULX.
Although moderator does seen promising.[/QUOTE]
Exsto and Evolve are much more modular than ULX; more third-party plugins may seem appealing to someone who doesn't know lua, but you'll quickly see the issues when you try to develop something yourself.
[QUOTE=code_gs;44804059]Exsto and Evolve are much more modular than ULX; more third-party plugins may seem appealing to someone who doesn't know lua, but you'll quickly see the issues when you try to develop something yourself.[/QUOTE]
It's so much easier to make a plugin for Exsto or Evolve, and Evolve is one of the easiest admin mods to edit and understand in my opinion.
I've built my admin mod on the same basis - easy to modify at the core level. Perhaps I'll release it one day :v: .
I agree ULX is more of a beginner administrative plugin, but it's really easy to handle if you don't [B]overthink [/B]things. If it's TTT, it's a lot easier than it looks. I even created a derma skin for the ULX Menu to make things easier for the staff! If you're planning on running a DarkRP, PERP, or any RP server, use Exsto or Evolve!
[QUOTE=.:ATomIC:.;44811460]I agree ULX is more of a beginner administrative plugin, but it's really easy to handle if you don't [B]overthink [/B]things. If it's TTT, it's a lot easier than it looks. I even created a derma skin for the ULX Menu to make things easier for the staff! If you're planning on running a DarkRP, PERP, or any RP server, use Exsto or Evolve![/QUOTE]
1. ULX uses default derma, so creating a reskin is what you would do for any derma panel.
2. Overthink? Overthink what?
3. TTT is shittily coded in itself. It constantly precaches sounds and turns on lag compensation when it's already on.
4. You can't use any admin mod with PERP since it overrides every other one with it's baton administration system.
Anybody like serverGuard?
[QUOTE=atticusmas;44812888]Anybody like serverGuard?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=code_gs;44763700]I would rather use ULX than Serverguard; neither would be preferable. I've looked through the Serverguard code, and it's nothing but ULX with a nice GUI. They rip functions and commands straight from ULX, and the code that is theirs is horribly inefficient. Not worth the money.[/QUOTE]
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Very good to know. What do you recommend? Extso and Evolve are both abandoned, are they not? Why do you think they're still good?
[QUOTE=atticusmas;44813337]Very good to know. What do you recommend? Extso and Evolve are both abandoned, are they not? Why do you think they're still good?[/QUOTE]
They both still work, although, Evolve needs some fixing-up. Chessnut just released [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1390916"]moderator[/URL] and it looks very good.
New moderator, it's brilliant!
I guess I'll try out moderator, I hope it has nice configuration files!
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