Third person view on a ragdoll

[Tensing]

Hello guys :) i would like to know if there is a way to select a ragdoll and see it in third person view like when you die with your character..
I know about cameras etc.. But i don't really like them because you can see only the focused area of the ragdoll and the camera change the physics of it..
There is a tool that can give a real third person view on ragdolls? I really need it :(
Very thanks in advance!

[Tensing]

There is no way, right? :(

[NillBye]

Wait what? You want to control a ragdoll?

There's [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=104509899"]Ragmorph[/URL], or I think you can just open the context menu and click drive..?

[Tensing]

[QUOTE=NillBye;46264708]Wait what? You want to control a ragdoll?

There's [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=104509899"]Ragmorph[/URL], or I think you can just open the context menu and click drive..?[/QUOTE]

wait what? i can drive a ragdoll without any tool but just with a comand?
my godness.. anyway thanks xD i'll check this! :D

[Tensing]

Uhmm i tried the ragmorph, but 4/5 ragdolls doesn't work xD
but i don't want to use a ragdoll as player model, move it with rigging or other, i just wanna set a camera over it.. but not a camera like the tool in gmod, but a standard camera like the one on the player when die.
is there a tool that can do this? ragmorph accepts only ragdolls with the same bone structure of the player model.. is too restrictive xD

[NillBye]

[QUOTE=Tensing;46277648]i just wanna set a camera over it.. but not a camera like the tool in gmod, but a standard camera like the one on the player when die.[/QUOTE]

Can you give me an example? I don't fully understand what you're asking.

[Tensing]

i mean put this camera over all ragdolls and not only with hl2 boned ragdolls (or similiar) with ragmorph:
[IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/htwf2h.jpg[/IMG]

but don't worry :) i've already solved with this, i edited the ragmorph's lua file of the Ragdoll Mode deleting all the valid ragdolls check strings on it.
now i can use all kinds of ragdolls for the ragdoll mode of the stool:
[IMG]http://i57.tinypic.com/19t6xf.jpg[/IMG]

ah, if someone needs this i've uploaded my edited lua file:
[url]http://www.mediafire.com/view/b28ka2bim0x61fd/Ragmorph_modded_lua_by_Hacksponge.zip[/url]

anyway, thanks for the replies! :)