We need a contraption duplicator/paster built into Garry's Mod. Adv. Dupe isn't going to cut it. - Garry's Mod

The Advanced Duplicator, when used, severely weakens or breaks any fairly complex contraption when you paste it. The folks at Wiremod say they have no way of fixing this. This is why I quit playing Gmod a while ago. I'd expected this to get fixed in the two years since then, but it never was. The only way to make a contraption saver / loader that works well enough is to have direct access to the source engine. Garry, we need your help. This is the biggest thing holding Garry's Mod back. Please make some sort of contraption saving / loading / pasting system or tool built into Garry's Mod.

This is the biggest thing holding garrysmod back because you can't Adv Dupe your sup3r om3ga e2 l33t code chips rite?

[QUOTE=chuck14;32349958]This is the biggest thing holding garrysmod back because you can't Adv Dupe your sup3r om3ga e2 l33t code chips rite?[/QUOTE] This post is so stupid for so many reasons, the biggest of which is the fact that E2 chips dupe perfectly, it's constraints that break when you dupe (welds, ballsockets, wheels, etc). Hell, I'd say that's why so many people use E2 now, because the rigging used to make something move breaks when you dupe it, but an E2 script that moves the prop for you won't break.

OH NO! WE HAVE TO USE THE ROPE TOOL FOR 5 MINUTES! GARRY, FIX IT! We got along fine with the Duplicator, and we're fine with the Adv Duplicator. Don't be lazy.

[QUOTE=chuck14;32350106]OH NO! WE HAVE TO USE THE ROPE TOOL FOR 5 MINUTES! GARRY, FIX IT! We got along fine with the Duplicator, and we're fine with the Adv Duplicator. Don't be lazy.[/QUOTE] Even that is far from perfect. Contraptions duped using that technique still get weakened. Also, why are you being such an asshole?

TB's duplicator fixes most constraint rapes, but you risk the chance of it not pasting properly when you spawn parented contraptions

Because I'm tired of hearing about how garry needs to make it easier to do x. You can live with redoing a few things, hell, it'll help you remember how to do them. Don't be lazy. You should be happy you have something like Adv Dupe or E2. Back in Gmod 9, we had the VMF loader that we had to make things for in hammer, and before that, nothing at all.

Except it's not redoing a few things. Redoing constraints on a mech or something that actually uses constraints to function is a real pain

[QUOTE=ShadowPhoeni;32350249]TB's duplicator fixes most constraint rapes, but you risk the chance of it not pasting properly when you spawn parented contraptions[/QUOTE] The problem is hardly anyone uses it.

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;32350284]The problem is hardly anyone uses it.[/QUOTE] GGG servers have it

I use hydraulics a lot, and I find it extremely discouraging when they break on dupes. I would love to have this added.

[QUOTE=chuck14;32350254]Because I'm tired of hearing about how garry needs to make it easier to do x. You can live with redoing a few things, hell, it'll help you remember how to do them. Don't be lazy. You should be happy you have something like Adv Dupe or E2. Back in Gmod 9, we had the VMF loader that we had to make things for in hammer, and before that, nothing at all.[/QUOTE] Goddamn you're being an ass. This whole "don't be lazy" mentality you have going is about the dumbest thing you can say to a seasoned builder who would request such a thing. I'd love to see you go build a V8 engine, throw it into a truck along with a decent gearbox, dupe it with the Advanced Duplicator, and tell me that not wanting to "fix a few constraints" is being lazy. Ass.

[QUOTE=chuck14;32349958]This is the biggest thing holding garrysmod back because you can't Adv Dupe your sup3r om3ga e2 l33t code chips rite?[/QUOTE] You're sounding like a complete fucking moron, Chuck. Code chips are not supposed to be saved through a duplication tool, let alone expressions. Seriously, it's sounding like you have no experience at [i]all[/i] with the duplicators that are around. Have you EVER build anything complicated? When stuff gets complicated and goes through advance duplicator, it does a bunch of duperape. When you save a box with wheels like you probably tried, it should save fine. Trying to do as MrWhite says, saving a V8 car with differential and such is not going to work through advance duplicator. TB made a duplicator a while back which works better than advance dupe [i]in some ways[/i]. TB's Dupe can fuck up positions of props and usually doesn't like parented props. There is literally no real good duplicator out there right now. We have to use the duplicators to the limit to get them to save complicated stuff in an OK manner. So basically you can't save contraptions and spawn them as they worked before getting duped. I don't care at all who's responsibility it is for a new, working duplicator but there should definitely be one that actually works. Reading a bit further into the thread makes my piss boil. [quote=chuck14]OH NO! WE HAVE TO USE THE ROPE TOOL FOR 5 MINUTES! GARRY, FIX IT! We got along fine with the Duplicator, and we're fine with the Adv Duplicator. Don't be lazy.[/quote] Same as I said above, it's not a single thing bugging up. It's not ropes alone bugging up. It does [b]not[/b] take 5 minutes to fix a complicated contraption. We don't get along fine with the duplicator, it does the worst duperape at times. We can barely save complicated creations in it as it is, and it has gotten better. Saving something like an engine in it is going to make it spass out horribly. And no. For the record, we aren't too lazy to fix our contraptions every time we spawn them. How many times do we have to tell you, it's not a single fucking thing bugging up. It's the whole contraption. [b]Edit[/b] [quote=chuck14]Because I'm tired of hearing about how garry needs to make it easier to do x. You can live with redoing a few things, hell, it'll help you remember how to do them. Don't be lazy. You should be happy you have something like Adv Dupe or E2. Back in Gmod 9, we had the VMF loader that we had to make things for in hammer, and before that, nothing at all.[/quote] Holy hell, you're getting worse. It's not a fucking single thing that bugs up when you save something duplicated, it's the whole fucking contraption. It's not "redoing a few things", when I tried saving my newest pickup truck which actually had an engine, [b]everything[/b] bugged up. That was 3 hours wasted just making all the wireing, suspension, engine, diff and transmission. I don't have time to redo that. You literally have no experience with the complicated stuff, do you?

[QUOTE=chuck14;32350254]Because I'm tired of hearing about how garry needs to make it easier to do x. You can live with redoing a few things, hell, it'll help you remember how to do them. Don't be lazy. You should be happy you have something like Adv Dupe or E2. [B]Back in Gmod 9, we had the VMF loader that we had to make things for in hammer[/B], and before that, nothing at all.[/QUOTE] I really do miss the VMF loader. Oh the good ol days.

I remember that one nuclear weapons pack someone made with it.