The Story of ZoneScript and how HGN effectively killed it.
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So as some of you may remember, a few months back I released a very hackily (and terribly) coded NutScript schema called "ZoneScript" it was basically an attempt to recreate S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to the best of my ability, but due to several of my own knowledge limitations, I was unable to create a few of my own things, granted, it used things that SilverKnight claimed to have coded himself. There was a few anomaly entities, which still had the HGN title on them in the spawn menu, which I received from my partner (at that time) a British male by the name of MadCombat, he and I were going to create our own gamemode with things no other S.T.A.L.K.E.R. gamemode had ever used or seen before, including but not limited to, our own anomalies (at some point), SWEPs, Bolts, Detectors, working Artifacts, and even more! However, the community fell flat on its face when ThY (another ex-HGN member) decided he wanted to leave and create his own community called Five Star Gaming, which obviously, I was not too happy about, because by this point MadCombat was missing in action (which later turned out to be because his mother was dying.) I had to hold the entire community on my hands and I wasn't supposed to be much more than a Lua developer and an admin, while I had less power than MadCombat in the entire scheme of things, I still had power to have a say because everything was done in our own community. MadCombat and I were both very good at communicating, but the sudden disappearances left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and so ends the story of MonolithicGaming, but that's not the end, oh no, that's not even the beginning of the end of the hell that would later come. I, being me, decided it would be a nice place for people to reference if they want to do some of their own things and create gamemodes but aren't sure where to start, or how to do specific things, so I released it, thinking it'd be a nice release for the community, soon, Jake from the community HGN approached me (he was already on my friends list and we talked quite often at that point) and asked me if he could use ZoneScript as a base for what would be his own gamemode, of course, I said he could use it, he added some things like FA:S2 support and generally cleaned up the code, both of I were communicating very well and we would help each other back and forth when we saw the need to do so.
This is where things start to go downhill, SilverKnight decided that he didn't want anything to do with a Kelse (because I was an admin in HGN at one point, and when he wouldn't give me SV when Fallout RP needed it most, and because of this I decided it'd be best for me to leave.) and because of this, he seems to now hate me, I've tried to come back to HGN on multiple occasions because I still had friends in HGN and they said there was stuff going on that would probably interest me, so I decided that I wanted to come back as "NotKelse" obviously, I was Kelse, I got permabanned, I came back as "YouDontKnowMe" and once again, got permabanned. He found out shortly after RadiationScript (HGN's "trademarked" gamemode, that they've been using for as long as I can remember) was started over by Jake, that Jake had used my schema "ZoneScript" as a base, and because SilverKnight hates me so much and decides he wants to take credit for everything, he stole every possible credit relating to Jake 'Kelse' Wall and made them "HyperGamer Network" including the credits of those that I used code from, but that wasn't enough to what he says "cover up his trail" he decided he wanted to ALSO go SO far as to DMCA the gamemode that HIS script is based off of, claiming I stole HIS work. This of course, is not correct, you can see my comments all over the code that I released and the multiple changes can be compared to the newest version of NutScript, ZoneScript was also created back in February of this year, here's some proof.
[img]http://4st.me/BahZW.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/dvJle.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/NsmNh.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/9bixL.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/cTccu.png[/img]
cl_hud.rar is the hud I made for my gamemode which was based on Danny's, by the way, as you can see, the directory is materials/kelse_stalker/stalker/ui
Now SilverKnight is stupid, why? Because if he's using the NutScript that came WITH ZoneScript (or one of the later versions of ZoneScript) he still has my animation table in it! That's all the proof that I should need to prove that SilverKnight has stolen my own work, but if you really think that I for some ungodly reason had absolutely no reason to steal Silver's code, or somehow got access to it (because Jake's would TOTALLY give me it. /sarcasm) then here's more proof.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1371240[/url]
This post was made on March 2nd, running ZoneScript at the time, and the official release thread.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1390818[/url]
Now you're probably wondering why I'm upset, no, I'm not upset that someone stole my own work and claimed it as theirs, that has been happening for as long as I can remember. I am upset that someone has stolen my work, DMCA'd my download link, and claimed that everything inside of it (which I credited everyone I used code from) was theirs, that is what upsets me. I personally went out of my way to remember who I borrowed code from, and copy it into the file so I can remember exactly who I used code from just so I could credit them, I believe that everyone that I borrowed code from should deserve credits, I am also annoyed that because SilverKnight is so insecure, he has to steal the possibility of anyone else using my gamemode from me. I wanted to do something nice for this community for once, and all it did was bite me in the ass, then when I don't help people at all I get cried to for being a "jerk" and an "asshole" for not wanting my code leaked, or the credits stolen from it, this will probably be the last (and it was the first) thing I'll ever release to facepunch, I understand that there are bad apples that will "ruin it for the rest" but those bad apples are enough for me to not want to publicly release things anymore.
To everyone who wanted to get a copy of a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. schema in advance, I am sorry.
I am sorry for you.
I am sorry for Jake. (his credits were stolen as well.)
I am sorry that SilverKnight is so insecure he had to take all this away.
And most of all, I am sorry I did not back the latest version up with the expectation of someone doing this.
I really, truly, am sorry.
Thank you for the read, and I completely understand if someone wants to rate me dumb for "crying on FP" it was not meant to be taken as that, but I just wanted to get this story out there so people know that SilverKnight and HGN are to be stayed away from, far away.
I am also sorry that this entire thread is a gosh darn mess, but I cannot really think right now to gather my thoughts into a post, I sort of just typed it out profusely in anger, I will most likely regret this later, but I guess this may help someone in the future. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
As far as I am concerned, HG and HZ are the same nazi networks.
[video=youtube;BGJ5GB3sRyA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJ5GB3sRyA[/video]
[QUOTE=kila58;46149790]As far as I am concerned, HG and HZ are the same nazi networks.
[video=youtube;BGJ5GB3sRyA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJ5GB3sRyA[/video][/QUOTE]
Oh man, this video makes me laugh every time I watch it.
The backstory is that Khan, Nazz, and Trex abused their admin all the time, in case you didn't know. They'd ban and kick other admins for immature reasons, so Madcombat made me a Head Admin and I took care of it (and most of the playerbase + leftover admins were pretty happy with it.) but then the community (they had a lot of friends) got upset so I made a public apology, not sure if the forums are up anymore, though.
Oh, and I forgot to say that I was in HGN back in 2012, I was in Exodus in 2014, so my time in HGN was a very long time ago.
[QUOTE=kila58;46149790]As far as I am concerned, HG and HZ are the same nazi networks.
[video=youtube;BGJ5GB3sRyA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJ5GB3sRyA[/video][/QUOTE]
D'uh, checking the video's description and checking the video it was inspired by leads to a "this video is private" page, do you know what the original video is called?
[QUOTE=markos;46149937]D'uh, checking the video's description and checking the video it was inspired by leads to a "this video is private" page, do you know what the original video is called?[/QUOTE]
Kavinsky - Odd Look
lmao, and whilst we over at Brink Network stayed out of this fray and decided to try to actually make shit.
tmw madcombat got the anomalies from us because silverknight gave them to Ice.
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