Buy a [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-1U-Server-X8SIE-F-Xeon-X3460-2-8ghz-Quad-Core-8gb-80gb-/231682181910?hash=item35f1558b16:g:8LgAAOSwPgxVSTXW"]X3460 1U[/URL] on ebay for $100-$200 and host it from your house. The X3460 should be OK for 32 slots (might need 33 tick).
Or go the extra mile and colocate it at datashack or joes datacenter for $50/month. The X3460 is a quad core CPU so you should be able to run 4 or so servers just fine at 33 tick / 32 slots.
Or rent a VPS from ramnode for $5/month.
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49675413]Buy a [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-1U-Server-X8SIE-F-Xeon-X3460-2-8ghz-Quad-Core-8gb-80gb-/231682181910?hash=item35f1558b16:g:8LgAAOSwPgxVSTXW"]X3460 1U[/URL] on ebay for $100-$200 and host it from your house. The X3460 should be OK for 32 slots (might need 33 tick).
Or go the extra mile and colocate it at datashack or joes datacenter for $50/month. The X3460 is a quad core CPU so you should be able to run 4 or so servers just fine at 33 tick / 32 slots.
Or rent a VPS from ramnode for $5/month.[/QUOTE]
Thabk you so much for your reply, I have some other questions.
My home Internet is 50 mb p/s download and 25 mb p/s upload.
If I'm running a server all day with players will my own Internet slowdown for me?
What happens if the server gets ddosd?
Will I need to upgrade my internet?
What are vps and how do they work?
^ 5 bucks sounds an awfully good deal if I could run 2 servers on it, but will it handle it?
Sorry I need to know the answers to these questions but at the same time I am bursting in curiosity.
If you're planning on running 2+ servers I would recommend upgrading your internet to a more feasible 100mb/s.
If you can't do that, just make sure you allocate a decent amount of bandwidth to your server and save some of the bandwidth for your own personal use. If you do end up getting DDoSed, you'd have to end up calling your internet provider and have them cut off the packets for a while and then turn them on when you believe it's safe. No one really DDoSes GMod servers anymore unless they're assholes and most of the time they're 12 year old skids using a booter off of their 1 meg internet connection.
Hope this helped!
Thanks man!
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678054]If you're planning on running 2+ servers I would recommend upgrading your internet to a more feasible 100mb/s.
If you can't do that, just make sure you allocate a decent amount of bandwidth to your server and save some of the bandwidth for your own personal use. If you do end up getting DDoSed, you'd have to end up calling your internet provider and have them cut off the packets for a while and then turn them on when you believe it's safe. No one really DDoSes GMod servers anymore unless they're assholes and most of the time they're 12 year old skids using a booter off of their 1 meg internet connection.
Hope this helped![/QUOTE]
They dont ddos as long as your server is small. One of my servers gets ddosed around 4 times a week and before we were using Ovhs special gaming ddos protected lineup they would take us down everytime, and that was on another ddos protected host.
Hosting from your home is stupid for many reasons.
Also the server dark recommended will be shit for gmod, do yourself a favor and don't buy something like that. It will keep up for some really small servers. But as soon as you grow or want to host more intensive gamemodes you will understand that you have thrown your money away.
[QUOTE=RediL;49678104]They dont ddos as long as your server is small. One of my servers gets ddosed around 4 times a week and before we were using Ovhs special gaming ddos protected lineup they would take us down everytime, and that was on another ddos protected host.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, larger servers are the ones more directly attacked. I wasn't DDoSed that often when I had my server(s) up, those of which had 50+ players on at peak times. Most server hosts advertise "DDoS protection" but normally they do the same thing I suggested to do which is shut of the receiving and outgoing packets to the server. Real DDoS protection is destroying some of the packets and sending some straight back to the sender of packets back to the sender and making them crash themselves.
In reply to your edited comment, hosting your own server is not stupid for many reasons. It's less costly in the long run, more configurable, easier to make updates to, etc. The list goes on.
But to each his own.
[QUOTE=RediL;49678104]They dont ddos as long as your server is small. One of my servers gets ddosed around 4 times a week and before we were using Ovhs special gaming ddos protected lineup they would take us down everytime, and that was on another ddos protected host.
Hosting from your home is stupid for many reasons.
Also the server dark recommended will be shit for gmod, do yourself a favor and don't buy something like that. It will keep up for some really small servers. But as soon as you grow or want to host more intensive gamemodes you will understand that you have thrown your money away.[/QUOTE]
I am planning on running at max 2 ttt servers with 32 slots each and plenty of custom stuff. Do you have any better recomendations systems I could buy? Again, I have no intent to host any darkrp or sandbox gamemodes. I appreciate your input though
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678134]Yeah, larger servers are the ones more directly attacked. I wasn't DDoSed that often when I had my server(s) up, those of which had 50+ players on at peak times. Most server hosts advertise "DDoS protection" but normally they do the same thing I suggested to do which is shut of the receiving and outgoing packets to the server. Real DDoS protection is destroying some of the packets and sending some straight back to the sender of packets back to the sender and making them crash themselves.
In reply to your edited comment, hosting your own server is not stupid for many reasons. It's less costly in the long run, more configurable, easier to make updates to, etc. The list goes on.
But to each his own.[/QUOTE]
So would I basically call my provider (Optimum) and tell them I amd getting ddosd and they would cut off his conection to my server? Is there any way I can put some kind of protection to Blick of basic attacks? Lastly will my home wifi experiance be greatly disturbed by attacks and cutting connections etc.
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
Also, doesn't my ip change? I would need a solid ip that all players can connect to I believe
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678189]
So would I basically call my provider (Optimum) and tell them I amd getting ddosd and they would cut off his conection to my server? Is there any way I can put some kind of protection to Blick of basic attacks? Lastly will my home wifi experiance be greatly disturbed by attacks and cutting connections etc.[/QUOTE]
You would most likely explain to them your operation (your operation is running game servers), and tell them you believe you are being DDoSed and ask them if they can inquire any further information on the problem, sometimes maintenance can be mistaken for a DDoS attack. They should be able to diagnose a DDoS attack (if there is one) and let you know what they can do about it.
In reply to your question about IP changes, static IP addresses do not change which will usually be your main IP address, then you have dynamic IPs which can change on reboots and such. It all depends on what structure of a server you plan on going for and how your internet provider lets you set it up.
just rent a server from a host, save yourself the hassle
What host do you use? What host do you recommend I use???
I don't mind the extra work as long as it helps.
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678235]You would most likely explain to them your operation (your operation is running game servers), and tell them you believe you are being DDoSed and ask them if they can inquire any further information on the problem, sometimes maintenance can be mistaken for a DDoS attack. They should be able to diagnose a DDoS attack (if there is one) and let you know what they can do about it.
In reply to your question about IP changes, static IP addresses do not change which will usually be your main IP address, then you have dynamic IPs which can change on reboots and such. It all depends on what structure of a server you plan on going for and how your internet provider lets you set it up.[/QUOTE]
Well I want to host a server 24/7 with some reboots here and there for better conditions. I'm not sure if my provider will even allow me to host one. You mind telling me how you hosted yours?
There's a risk your provider may cut your network if they get DDOS'd! (At least here)
I'd PERSONALLY recommend SimRai.com for starting servers, had nothing but good experiences and they're cheap.
If you're looking for something more 'premium' (they're not really) NFO or DamienServers would be good choices
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678189]
So would I basically call my provider (Optimum) and tell them I amd getting ddosd and they would cut off his conection to my server? Is there any way I can put some kind of protection to Blick of basic attacks? Lastly will my home wifi experiance be greatly disturbed by attacks and cutting connections etc.
[/QUOTE]
Yes if they ddos you and succeed your whole internet will go down. Most internet providers disallows hosting stuff from your home if you aren't on their business lineup, so read their TOS. Home internets are really easy to take down these days too so it won't be much trouble for them. I've heard from my friends in the UK that when they get ddosed their provider will automatically null them for a few hours.
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678134]
In reply to your edited comment, hosting your own server is not stupid for many reasons. It's less costly in the long run, more configurable, easier to make updates to, etc. The list goes on.
But to each his own.[/QUOTE]
Here is a list with possible problems hosting it outside of a datacenter.
1. You are limited to host in the location you live in.
2. You can easily get ddosed.
3. You have to give away your IP to everyone playing on your servers.
4. You have to pay for the electricity the server consumes.
5. You might not have an unlimited data plan and you might reach your limit.
6. You will get no support.
7. You will probably not have as good routing as the typical datacenter.
8. You will need to have the server running somwhere in your house/apt which could be loud, especially if it's a rackmounted case due to their really small agressive fans.
9. You can't as easily upgrade your stuff to the newest hardware. (You would have to sell the old stuff and buy new, or pay much for the hardware).
10. If you buy used stuff you probably wont have any warranties and the hard drives could be old.
11. You will probably want to have a set of mouse, keyboard and monitor to it. (Ofc you don't need to have this permantently but it would be optional).
12. You could be breaking your internet providers TOS and therefore lose your internet.
13. You probably wont have as fast internet as the datacenter.
14. If you do decide to stop with your servers, you will stand there with all the hardware. Ofc you can sell this but still it's a lot of hassle.
I could list alot more things, but I don't feel like it's needed.
Some positive things with hosting from your home.
1. You will learn more, probably.
2. It's always fun to own your hardware.
3. You can resell your stuff.
4. You can use [B]*cough*[/B] maybe not so legit software.
To match SoYouStarts.com game server that costs $69.99 in performance (ignoring ddos protection, failover ips, network speed etc) you will have to buy hardware for around $700. The server from SoYouStart costs $840 a year. So sure, it will cost less in the longrun. If you will host your servers for a year or less it just wont be worth it. Ofc you won't know how long you will keep hosting so it will be really hard to decide. But if you keep running for more than 1 year, you will probably be big enough that the ddos issues starts and you would want to go to a real host anyways. Now I did indeed take an overpowered server for just the 2 servers that you plan to host (you never know how many servers you might want to host in the future though, my aim when I started my community was to have 2 servers, now I have 7). But it will pretty much be the same difference even if you go lower in budget. For the lower budget stuff you can buy from a budget host like Kimsufi. [url]https://www.kimsufi.com/us[/url]
I speak from personal experience here. My old community (not gmod) was hosted from home. With my new community I decided to not do the same mistake as before. So please, before you make a decision. Google and read all opinions from all the people that have hosted from home before.
[QUOTE=Roag15;49678279]There's a risk your provider may cut your network if they get DDOS'd! (At least here)
I'd PERSONALLY recommend SimRai.com for starting servers, had nothing but good experiences and they're cheap.
If you're looking for something more 'premium' (they're not really) NFO or DamienServers would be good choices[/QUOTE]
Thanks for input guys
Anyone who has used nfo or serenity servers and inputs info would be very appreciated
[QUOTE=RediL;49678104]Hosting from your home is stupid for many reasons.
Also the server dark recommended will be shit for gmod, do yourself a favor and don't buy something like that. It will keep up for some really small servers. But as soon as you grow or want to host more intensive gamemodes you will understand that you have thrown your money away.[/QUOTE]
Hosting from home is fine. I used to do it several years back and never had any issues with DDoS or anything else.
And yes it is generally understood that the X3460 isn't a cream of the crop CPU for gmod. It was released in 2009 so it's pretty old. With that being said it will still run a 32 slot TTT server @ 33 tick and since you can find an entire 1U build with this CPU on ebay for sub $100 prices it makes a great entry server into gmod hosting.
Hey you can actually [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-System-x3250-M3-Server-Quad-Core-Xeon-X3460-2-80GHz-4GB-/301862653849?hash=item46486a8f99:g:xOkAAOSwYIhWmA3b"]find it[/URL] for $59.99 with no HDD.
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49678339]Hosting from home is fine. I used to do it several years back and never had any issues with DDoS or anything else.
And yes it is generally understood that the X3460 isn't a cream of the crop CPU for gmod. It was released in 2009 so it's pretty old. With that being said it will still run a 32 slot TTT server @ 33 tick and since you can find an entire 1U build with this CPU on ebay for sub $100 prices it makes a great entry server into gmod hosting.
Hey you can actually [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-System-x3250-M3-Server-Quad-Core-Xeon-X3460-2-80GHz-4GB-/301862653849?hash=item46486a8f99:g:xOkAAOSwYIhWmA3b"]find it[/URL] for $59.99 with no HDD.[/QUOTE]
Thank you so much for replying. Do you know any other options under $200? Also can I buy a firewall or something for my home.
Also can you articulate on that 5 dollar vps you were talking about. I am interested
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678357]Thank you so much for replying. Do you know any other options under $200? Also can I buy a firewall or something for my home.
Also can you articulate on that 5 dollar vps you were talking about. I am interested[/QUOTE]
As long as you use common sense and don't antagonize your players the odds of you being attacked hosting a 32 slot server are slim.
You can find a lot of good deals on ebay if you browse around.
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49678382]As long as you use common sense and don't antagonize your players the odds of you being attacked hosting a 32 slot server are slim.
You can find a lot of good deals on ebay if you browse around.[/QUOTE]
LOL I just realized I was asking you to go shopping for me. Sorry I'm didn't try to be rude. What exactly will I be looking for? High frequency and more recent chips? Sorry I have little knowledge on server hardware but have high expectations that the one I will host be popular
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678407]LOL I just realized I was asking you to go shopping for me. Sorry I'm didn't try to be rude. What exactly will I be looking for? High frequency and more recent chips? Sorry I have little knowledge on server hardware but have high expectations that the one I will host be popular[/QUOTE]
For a 32 slot TTT server? Seriously the X3460 should be fine at 33 tick.
I'd personally recommend more recent hardware but it costs more money. And since you're literally just starting and have no idea on if you will even attract a large playerbase - x3460 at $59.99 is a deal if you're hosting from home.
I strongly recommend going the route you wish to go, baebaeron.
I have used both Serenity Server and NFO and both are phenomenal hosts, but in my own opinion, if you are looking to improve as far as cost and flexibility I'd recommend going with your own server at your house. If you're nervous about being DDoSed you can go an extra mile and purchase a multi-layered DDoS checkpoint box. But at that point you'd be mostly over doing it, yet saving yourself from the hassle of a host and problems with being DDoSed.
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49678427]For a 32 slot TTT server? Seriously the X3460 should be fine at 33 tick.
I'd personally recommend more recent hardware but it costs more money. And since you're literally just starting and have no idea on if you will even attract a large playerbase - x3460 at $59.99 is a deal if you're hosting from home.[/QUOTE]
Thank you so much for your advice it is greatly appreciated.
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678440]I strongly recommend going the route you wish to go, baebaeron.
I have used both Serenity Server and NFO and both are phenomenal hosts, but in my own opinion, if you are looking to improve as far as cost and flexibility I'd recommend going with your own server at your house. If you're nervous about being DDoSed you can go an extra mile and purchase a multi-layered DDoS checkpoint box. But at that point you'd be mostly over doing it, yet saving yourself from the hassle of a host and problems with being DDoSed.[/QUOTE]
Thanks so much for your advice too. My very last question for you is how much would this ddos layer box cost?
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678443]Thank you so much for your advice it is greatly appreciated.
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
Thanks so much for your advice too. My very last question for you is how much would this ddos layer box cost?[/QUOTE]
If you mean buying a ddos protected VPN which you will connect to then not alot, maybe $15 a month. But it will give you higher ping. And alot of hosts disallows you to do that. If you mean a real ddos protection that you route your data through it will be 100's of dollars.
But then again if you pay $15 for that VPN you could go up to $22 a month and get a whole server that would perform better than the one dark linked. On [url]https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/[/url] you will find sick prices on their KS-4B and KS-4C servers. With anti ddos.
Brb going to plow snow. Inputs from others would be nice
[QUOTE=RediL;49678281]Yes if they ddos you and succeed your whole internet will go down. Most internet providers disallows hosting stuff from your home if you aren't on their business lineup, so read their TOS. Home internets are really easy to take down these days too so it won't be much trouble for them. I've heard from my friends in the UK that when they get ddosed their provider will automatically null them for a few hours.
Here is a list with possible problems hosting it outside of a datacenter.
1. You are limited to host in the location you live in.
2. You can easily get ddosed.
3. You have to give away your IP to everyone playing on your servers.
4. You have to pay for the electricity the server consumes.
5. You might not have an unlimited data plan and you might reach your limit.
6. You will get no support.
7. You will probably not have as good routing as the typical datacenter.
8. You will need to have the server running somwhere in your house/apt which could be loud, especially if it's a rackmounted case due to their really small agressive fans.
9. You can't as easily upgrade your stuff to the newest hardware. (You would have to sell the old stuff and buy new, or pay much for the hardware).
10. If you buy used stuff you probably wont have any warranties and the hard drives could be old.
11. You will probably want to have a set of mouse, keyboard and monitor to it. (Ofc you don't need to have this permantently but it would be optional).
12. You could be breaking your internet providers TOS and therefore lose your internet.
13. You probably wont have as fast internet as the datacenter.
14. If you do decide to stop with your servers, you will stand there with all the hardware. Ofc you can sell this but still it's a lot of hassle.
I could list alot more things, but I don't feel like it's needed.
Some positive things with hosting from your home.
1. You will learn more, probably.
2. It's always fun to own your hardware.
3. You can resell your stuff.
4. You can use [B]*cough*[/B] maybe not so legit software.
To match SoYouStarts.com game server that costs $69.99 in performance (ignoring ddos protection, failover ips, network speed etc) you will have to buy hardware for around $700. The server from SoYouStart costs $840 a year. So sure, it will cost less in the longrun. If you will host your servers for a year or less it just wont be worth it. Ofc you won't know how long you will keep hosting so it will be really hard to decide. But if you keep running for more than 1 year, you will probably be big enough that the ddos issues starts and you would want to go to a real host anyways. Now I did indeed take an overpowered server for just the 2 servers that you plan to host (you never know how many servers you might want to host in the future though, my aim when I started my community was to have 2 servers, now I have 7). But it will pretty much be the same difference even if you go lower in budget. For the lower budget stuff you can buy from a budget host like Kimsufi. [url]https://www.kimsufi.com/us[/url]
I speak from personal experience here. My old community (not gmod) was hosted from home. With my new community I decided to not do the same mistake as before. So please, before you make a decision. Google and read all opinions from all the people that have hosted from home before.[/QUOTE]
1. You are limited to host in the location you live in. - No you are absolutely not limited to the location you live at, your server will reach anyone if you have a strong enough connection.
2. You can easily get ddosed. - Any server can easily get DDoSed
3. You have to give away your IP to everyone playing on your servers. - Your IP is everywhere anyways, you can't do jack shit with an IP. Besides DDoS it.
4. You have to pay for the electricity the server consumes. - Which isn't much in reality.
5. You might not have an unlimited data plan and you might reach your limit. - If your internet provider has a data cap, you have some problems.
6. You will get no support. - If you're building a server, you should already know enough about server hosting.
7. You will probably not have as good routing as the typical datacenter. - It runs as fast as the hardware you have, nothings impossible.
8. You will need to have the server running somwhere in your house/apt which could be loud, especially if it's a rackmounted case due to their really small agressive fans. - There are quiet alternatives to those "small aggressive fans".
9. You can't as easily upgrade your stuff to the newest hardware. (You would have to sell the old stuff and buy new, or pay much for the hardware). - Yes you can, this has to be one of the worst reasons on this list.
10. If you buy used stuff you probably wont have any warranties and the hard drives could be old. - That's why you buy new items, and a new hard drive cuz you never know what's on that thing.
11. You will probably want to have a set of mouse, keyboard and monitor to it. (Ofc you don't need to have this permantently but it would be optional). - So? This reason isn't justifiable either.
12. You could be breaking your internet providers TOS and therefore lose your internet. - Get a business connection, there's a reason that IP's offer it.
13. You probably wont have as fast internet as the datacenter. - You already said something about datacenter and you have NO idea where internet speed is going now days, obviously.
14. If you do decide to stop with your servers, you will stand there with all the hardware. Ofc you can sell this but still it's a lot of hassle. - Selling server hardware isn't actually that difficult and can be used for otherthings, plus, I'm sure he wouldn't be purchasing this type of software if he didn't plan on using it for a while.
I'm just pointing out the obvious, let him do as he pleases but don't give random "reasons" to push him away from his decision. Try to be open minded, he asked about server hardware and what's best. Not anything you're providing.
But like I said, to each his own...
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678443]Thank you so much for your advice it is greatly appreciated.
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
Thanks so much for your advice too. My very last question for you is how much would this ddos layer box cost?[/QUOTE]
Well in most cases if you end up getting a business plan with your internet provider, you will get a router that includes mild DDoS protection. If you don't get a business plan, you can get a DDoS firewall, these range in prices. I'm sure you can look it up and find some quite easily.
I have a pretty high end ac router branded by the company but I believe it is a d-link and it's shaped like a black pipe and they provide their own support. My plan is unlimited and if I keep this server I just might let it sit in my cold garage where my modem and router is and let it run. I'm not sure how much more it will cost to use more electricity it will use (that's for my parents to find out lol). I belelieve my location (CT) will be fine to a tract players
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678631]I have a pretty high end ac router branded by the company but I believe it is a d-link and it's shaped like a black pipe and they provide their own support. My plan is unlimited and if I keep this server I just might let it sit in my cold garage where my modem and router is and let it run. I'm not sure how much more it will cost to use more electricity it will use (that's for my parents to find out lol). I belelieve my location (CT) will be fine to a tract players[/QUOTE]
Well those reasons strengthen your reason to run a server from your house. You have no tedious problems other than being DDoSed which is not a massive problem in the long-run. Darksoul69 has the right idea for the software so I'd recommend listening to him on what you'd need.
If you plan on running just a couple servers and not expanding at all, go with a set CPU and such but if you just want to run a couple servers now and expand in the future, get a nicer CPU and then just add on as you go.
You mentioned above that your internet provider is optimum. Upon examination of their TOS for their residential internet package I found this.
[t]https://i.gyazo.com/411c516c8787caead4c6000ab397934a.png[/t]
Source: [url]https://www.optimum.net/pages/Terms/Internet/Residential.html[/url]
So if you are going to host from your home you may want to upgrade your internet service, otherwise be aware your provider might notice the increase in bandwidth and terminate your service.
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678668]Well those reasons strengthen your reason to run a server from your house. You have no tedious problems other than being DDoSed which is not a massive problem in the long-run. Darksoul69 has the right idea for the software so I'd recommend listening to him on what you'd need.
If you plan on running just a couple servers and not expanding at all, go with a set CPU and such but if you just want to run a couple servers now and expand in the future, get a nicer CPU and then just add on as you go.[/QUOTE]
Thank you so much for your advice
Thread is still open for input from others
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=boxvader;49678700]You mentioned above that your internet provider is optimum. Upon examination of their TOS for their residential internet package I found this.
[t]https://i.gyazo.com/411c516c8787caead4c6000ab397934a.png[/t]
Source: [url]https://www.optimum.net/pages/Terms/Internet/Residential.html[/url]
So if you are going to host from your home you may want to upgrade your internet service, otherwise be aware your provider might notice the increase in bandwidth and terminate your service.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I will look into other Internet options
[QUOTE=Zephruz;49678517]1. You are limited to host in the location you live in. - No you are absolutely not limited to the location you live at, your server will reach anyone if you have a strong enough connection.
2. You can easily get ddosed. - Any server can easily get DDoSed
3. You have to give away your IP to everyone playing on your servers. - Your IP is everywhere anyways, you can't do jack shit with an IP. Besides DDoS it.
4. You have to pay for the electricity the server consumes. - Which isn't much in reality.
5. You might not have an unlimited data plan and you might reach your limit. - If your internet provider has a data cap, you have some problems.
6. You will get no support. - If you're building a server, you should already know enough about server hosting.
7. You will probably not have as good routing as the typical datacenter. - It runs as fast as the hardware you have, nothings impossible.
8. You will need to have the server running somwhere in your house/apt which could be loud, especially if it's a rackmounted case due to their really small agressive fans. - There are quiet alternatives to those "small aggressive fans".
9. You can't as easily upgrade your stuff to the newest hardware. (You would have to sell the old stuff and buy new, or pay much for the hardware). - Yes you can, this has to be one of the worst reasons on this list.
10. If you buy used stuff you probably wont have any warranties and the hard drives could be old. - That's why you buy new items, and a new hard drive cuz you never know what's on that thing.
11. You will probably want to have a set of mouse, keyboard and monitor to it. (Ofc you don't need to have this permantently but it would be optional). - So? This reason isn't justifiable either.
12. You could be breaking your internet providers TOS and therefore lose your internet. - Get a business connection, there's a reason that IP's offer it.
13. You probably wont have as fast internet as the datacenter. - You already said something about datacenter and you have NO idea where internet speed is going now days, obviously.
14. If you do decide to stop with your servers, you will stand there with all the hardware. Ofc you can sell this but still it's a lot of hassle. - Selling server hardware isn't actually that difficult and can be used for otherthings, plus, I'm sure he wouldn't be purchasing this type of software if he didn't plan on using it for a while.
I'm just pointing out the obvious, let him do as he pleases but don't give random "reasons" to push him away from his decision. Try to be open minded, he asked about server hardware and what's best. Not anything you're providing.
But like I said, to each his own...
[editline]5th February 2016[/editline]
Well in most cases if you end up getting a business plan with your internet provider, you will get a router that includes mild DDoS protection. If you don't get a business plan, you can get a DDoS firewall, these range in prices. I'm sure you can look it up and find some quite easily.[/QUOTE]
You answer to everything is to upgrade his stuff to business ranges etc. That will cost more than a server in a datacenter, so whats the point in having it home then? He asked for other options than hosting at home too if you read his first post.
I'm into new networking stuff and general computer hardware too. I have a fiber connection directly to my house which have a dual 10Gbit/s line. (Which I only can get if I pay for a business connection). So instead I have a 500/500 Mbit/s connection. But sure I have no idea where internet is going nowdays. I was 15 like him acually when I wanted to do this stuff at home, it was very exciting acually. But as you have to deal with it and get more busy with other things you will find it to be better to simply have it hosted by a provider.
Lastly no his server will NOT be viewable in the serverlist from anywhere in the world no matter how good routing you have...
I couldn't care less if he bought a server and put it in his home, It's not really my problem. But instead of just supporting it like you want it can be good to put both negative and positive things with it. You told him the positive stuff and I told him the negative and now he got some good arguments to read and can decide himself what sounds better.
I'm literally stuck between all options right now. I got time anyway right now I'm gathering scripts and coding some stuff. I'm better off launching in the summer where I will have more time
Actually I might not be able to host at my home due to our service provider l. Still considering everything though
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