Following the [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1561061&page=39"]recent conversation[/URL] on the DWTMAT thread, and since it's not the first time the idea was brought up, I decided to try and get things moving with a poll.
The idea is to lock the DWTMAT thread and replace it with a WIPs & Tips thread. Instead of posting finalized pictures in DWTMAT, we will post them in new threads, while WIPs and mid-work related discussions can go in the WIPs & Tips thread (or other threads of their own as well). The reasoning behind this is to get rid of the artificial 'thread worthy' standard that suppresses new threads from being posted, and to redirect activity from the DWTMAT thread to the entire section, as it once used to be.
I've always wanted a thread specifically made for WiPs, locking the DWTMAT thread gets my vote.
maybe a few extra general threads could work, like ones exclusively for 40k poses, modern military, WWI/II, etc. just a thought.
[QUOTE=tharmas;52716344]maybe a few extra general threads could work, like ones exclusively for 40k poses, modern military, WWI/II, etc. just a thought.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we already have those, the idea only has to do with the DWTMAT thread
[QUOTE=VIoxtar;52716352]Yeah, we already have those, the idea only has to do with the DWTMAT thread[/QUOTE]
well shit, if they're there i didn't see them. DWT is really choking the board if that's the case.
[QUOTE=tharmas;52716344]maybe a few extra general threads could work, like ones exclusively for 40k poses, modern military, WWI/II, etc. just a thought.[/QUOTE]
That's a bad idea, the only thing it will do is split up the community.
[QUOTE=Hauptmann;52716370]That's a bad idea, the only thing it will do is split up the community.[/QUOTE]
true, true. it was just a suggestion anyway. i'm just playing devil's advocate and suggesting we should split the thread rather than get rid of it entirely, but we'd just end up with the same problem again.
i donno i still feel like having a thread for shots when you just don't feel like making a thread is still fine, people should just be encouraged to make more threads
[editline]25th September 2017[/editline]
besides in a lot of cases i've found that posting a thread really doesn't necessarilly mean you'll get any responses
Results are pretty clear, the [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1579958"]first WIPs and Tips thread is up[/URL]
......we already have a wips and tips thread, though. Why do we need two?
The current 'Post your WIP' thread is for contraptions and building related WIPs, we wanted one for poses and screenshots
[QUOTE=VIoxtar;52719062]The current 'Post your WIP' thread is for contraptions and building related WIPs, we wanted one for poses and screenshots[/QUOTE]
They should probably change the name of that thread. It was pretty undescriptive before and now it's just confusing
Well, I'm probably not going to be very active in this section at all now. See y'all about.
[QUOTE=RainBD7;52721941]Well, I'm probably not going to be very active in this section at all now. See y'all about.[/QUOTE]...why?
[QUOTE=Joazzz;52722055]...why?[/QUOTE]
Just cuz I don't really make scenebuilds, so none of my poses are big enough for it to be worth posting a WiP shot of, and I genuinley don't think any of my poses are threadworthy. I liked having a big thread to post it in as it doesn't put it in a spotlight that suggests you think your work is amazing. I just liked posting it casually.
But the point of locking the DWTMAT thread is to kill the notion of threadworthyness, forget the standards you had to meet in a scene for making a thread and make one for it, be it a massive scenebuild or a very simple scene.
But I also think that soon there'll be too many threads and stuff will just get buried before people really have the chance to look at it.
People keep bringing up that point but its far worse on the DWTMAT thread
if there was even a lower-profile way of posting pictures (like in some discord server), then over time THAT would become the new standard (we naturally don't like taking risks) and all of a sudden people will no longer post in the DWTMAT thread because their pics aren't 'worthy', that's why it's an ARTIFICIAL standard that we want to get rid of, it literally means nothing
i got threadfucked like three times on the DWT thread just cause i posted too late in a page's life. at least now you have the chance to be seen.
i feel like this change should have been brought about years ago
but hindsight is what it is innit
Just because you make a thread, doesn't mean you'll get any meaningful feedback. Case in point, Luxuria's recent threads, and mine.
You either have to be super popular and prolific to get attention, or you have to be bad enough that nobody can resist commenting.
[QUOTE='Ninja Nub[NOR];52725057']Just because you make a thread, doesn't mean you'll get any meaningful feedback. Case in point, Luxuria's recent threads, and mine.
You either have to be super popular and prolific to get attention, or you have to be bad enough that nobody can resist commenting.[/QUOTE]
I feel like it's because how the times have changed, this time around. 2005-2007ish, posing was kinda a big deal. We didn't have fancy built in DoF and lamps and whatnot. People used to SHEF as the baseline of "editing". Everyone did it, so everyone got to hear about how well you posed a scene and whether the SHEF complimented it. Yeah, you had the few that did graphic design or studied art for school and or work so you had a few editors pop out.
Since GMOD10 started implementing SDoF and lamps and whatnot, the expectations shift once again. What used to be about great posing is now more about technical aspects of it. Scenebuilding, Lamps, editing--these are the things that are the minimum expectation this time around. People critique people with the same thing "should have used lamps", "did you scenebuild?" etc. and it's really all anyone cares about. I mean, we have "poses" of people standing but with some photography technique thrown onto it and that's considered amazing.
GMOD was fundamentally about posing and now, given the tools at hand today, it's been turned into an extended editing program. Not necessarily a bad thing, it's just an observation. But I feel it contributes to the general attitude of everyone around here. I believe the intention was good to close the other thread but for some people, it's all they get for an ounce of recognition. Otherwise we'll just have a bunch of empty floating threads around here and the same select few with actual comments which are merely "this is awesome!" Instead.
Might be too late honestly and it's just the way things are but eh, two cents from someone whose been around too long here.
Not that I'm a regular here, but for me it's much easier to just throw my stuff into some thread filled with other random screenshots and call it done than to actually take time to create a new one, think how to name it and so on. Anyway, what I don't understand is why this poll is even a thing. If you don't mind people spamming threads every now and then then what's the problem with keeping one more thread for lazy asses like me?
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