US East 1 down again since an hour ago... the entire weekend was full of ddos attacks and lag, making it basically unenjoyable... please do something about your quality (of servers) and stop shitting out new "content" every week like not really necessary bbqs and other minor things that really should only play a role at the end of developing a game as a fine-tuning...
WAKE UP FACEPUNCH
How about YOU try going to Community servers instead of relying on servers that NEVER were meant to be played on for more than testing purposes.
How about YOU Wake Up and realize that these servers are plagued with Hackers, DDOS,Downtime and are un moderated. And guess what...they never will change.
No, sounds like you need a wake up call
haha, firstly ive been playing on officials for years and it has never even been close to how bad it is right now, secondly i paid 20 euro and the game titles them "official serers", hence they are the ones i officialy paid money for to play on, idc what the community or devs interpret this phrasing as, if you look at it from an economic and law perspective it is obvious that the official servers are the ones people expect to play on (especially since there is no warning prior to purchase about this "speciality")
and please stfu about community servers, they are often worse than officials with admin abuse and just random discontinuation of them by the admins etc., i want to play on an official server and not some modded shit, if i buy gta i dont primarily buy it for the one mod some idiot made but rather for the experience as intended by the developer... if you dont understand this then you are probably some person way too involved in online communities...
Agreed.
You paid 20$ for a copy of a game you claimed you bought years ago. I think you got your money's worth.
And if you think just because a server is labeled "Community" and it is automatically defaulted to modded then you are even more naive than you sound.
Hold up so because he played it years ago and "Got his moneys worth" he should be forced off a server? Thats not how good games work. Good games last more than "A couple years".
Well, the one argument I would have is the fact that he mentioned how bad it was "right now". I , for one can personally attest to this being completely untrue. And besides, how do you really measure something like that. Does it take a specific event that is so catastrophic in order to compare it to? No, this is and has been an ongoing thing,which in a way is even worse. You are perfectly aware of a situation yet you cry about it knowing it wont get resolved. And no, he has not stayed on one server the entire time as this is just completely impossible to do so with these servers, so that is a moot point. He's been forced off before..why complain now?
Dood, if you have played this game, this long then you know. And I am sorry, but complaining about it wont change. I have seen hundreds and hundreds upon hundreds of these very same complaints and here we are today. Still, the same situation.
Community (possible admin abuse) vs Official (no admin)
Protected capable vs constant DDos
Consistent uptime vs consistent Downtime
EAC/VAC protected vs Open blatant hacking
hmm..looks to me as if it is a pretty clear cut decsion
Do yourself a favor, adapt and overcome the caveats of Community. You will find yourself in a lot more time of playing than sitting on here bitching about not being able to play
Stop being so fucking condecending. It's highly counterproductive and only feeds into the community's toxicity. So just fucking stop it. And no, you're not the only one, so I hope others with equally short fuses reads this and stops their behaviour.
DDOSes are a valid concern, if they can happen to officials, they can happen to community servers. As for the officials being test servers, they should be labeled test servers if what you claim is true.
Look man, I am not disagreeing with you here. Everything you say is completely valid. My point is, if you continue to use broken tools and you know you can't fix them...get a new tool
I do find that a bit simplistic, but I know what you mean. FP needs to tackle this growing problem though, 2 months ago it was pretty confined to the US servers, this last wipe it has spread to Canada servers, its not impossible it might spread to EU and UK servers if the DDOSers feel like it.
I do buy the argument from FP that they really cant afford admins (not directly related to DDOS, but not unrelated either) for every damn official server, but maybe they should reduce the amount of officials to a more managable number, and if they get full (which they will), promote other good community servers.
i understand that i got my moneys worth and that community is not necessarily modded, but i just find it very rude of facepunch to not even apologise or give us hope for the future along the lines of "we are working to resolve this issue", its been an entire weekend, other companies - also indies - tweet often almost immediately when a ddos attack on this scale happens
and this was an extraordinary case since the tc decay combo with ddos basically fucked half of the people on the server who calculated their supplies a bit tighter...
they've said exactly that about a dozen times over the official discord in just the last few days. to recap: they're aware of the issue, they're working to address it, there's no ETA just yet but they're testing a new provider with two of the official servers right now, and if it works well they're presumably gonna swap.
i dont accept community servers as an argument im afraid as you can take from my points above, and yes, i do think they should all stop what they are doing if the servers are having such MASSIVE problems for such a LONG duration and fucking fix it, i dont see how that doesnt make sense.... and its nice that they discuss something in discord, im from an older generation idgaf about discord, i want it documented and be able to read it, if they dont do that its not proper information available to everybody, imo its just a huge incompetence, any shit game out there has functioning servers
They need to fix this problem I mean can't even play the DAMN game
m8 I think you missed my point that the people in charge of making textures, models, and music aren't gonna be able to help with the servers. That and the problem isn't gonna get solved faster by throwing more people at it.
anyones I'm gonna make a new thread for this so it's all in one place. I'll have it up soon and tehn the conversation can move to there.
well i obviously excluded those employees that actually arent able to contribute in solving this issue, but im sure some of them can do basic tasks like communicating with a new server host or setting up meetings or whatever isnt too specific to handle, THEY NEED TO PUT FULL EFFORT INTO THIS IT IS NOT NORMAL ANYMORE
not really? all you said was no new content period lol. Everything I just listed is of course content that they'd be doing.
And again, they are doing that, and putting more people on it won't make a difference.
for the sake of keeping everyone easily up to date, plz move discussion to here: Regarding recent official server outages/lag
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WAKE UP FACEPUNCH
