Dear Facepunch,
As usual the latest rust update adding 'more slots' to the TC is not adding enough! At the moment there are 4 rows each with 6 slots = 24 slots total.
This is not enough! we need at least a large chest in the TC or make it so it scales with how big the building is!
I am in an 11 man clan and we have a base that costs around 200k stone and 75k frags the upkeep is around 66k stone and 24k frags and 8k wood. The resources need is no problem we can do that just fine with 11 people. It is the actual putting resources in the TC that is a pain.
In total to protect our base for 24 hrs we need around 100 slots but we only have 24....
This means that we can only ever protect our base for around 5 hours at a time before we need to put resources in again.
This is evidently a pain as we are all EU so people have to log in every 5 hours to put resources in the TC.
I know that some people will say 'just build a smaller base' or 'build multiple bases' but smaller is not an option as people can still farm the same amount of sulfur and therefore would leave us vulnerable to raids. And building multiple bases isn't convenient for us at all.
This could all be easily fixed by either giving us more slots (100 or 200 slots) or by making the TC scale with the upkeep e.g. a 4k stone upkeep may have 4 or 8 slots whereas a 300k stone upkeep may have 300 or 600 slots. This means that we can build as large as we want and the only limiting factor is how much upkeep is not how much we can put in a TC at a time
Facepunch plz fix
AoR Ortovox
Make smaller clans, bulld smaller bases. That's the whole point of the upkeep system, to stop this zerg-madness and keep bases small.
Go to a modded server if you want to build big bases.
firstly we aren't really a zerg just a large group and the point of the upkeep system is to make sure people don't build massive bases as it will COST a lot to farm for but the farming isn't the problem "The resources need is no problem we can do that just fine with 11 people. It is the actual putting resources in the TC that is a pain." and we will still continue to make massive 200k stone bases its just a QOL thing that would be nice to see
You don't get it. A big clanbase like that will be impossible to raid for any group smaller than 5 ppl, hence this new system is implemented, it is MEANT TO be harder for larger groups. Go to a modded server which has altered CB-settings or removed the upkeep altogether. There is no one stopping you.
They are already expanded amount of slots in TC. Why do you need even more? Build smaller bases, upgrade your walls and foundations to sheet metal, put more doors and enjoy. Since sheet metal has 1000 HP raiders with a few amount of explosives will prefer to raid bases through doors, and complicated entrances will make their life harder.
This update will stop these huge-ass buildings, and yeah i know about existence of clan towns, but i think this cannot be solved. But i think it already makes raiding clans quite easier than before, isn't it?
well seems like your opinion cannot be swayed... its simply a quality of life thing that would be nice but really any base large than 60k stone will experience this problem
we already tried making everything sheet metal and we have the same problem but with metal frags not stone also doors decay now so more doors will only add to our problem
to both of you in massive servers there are 3 tiers of players small groups, large groups and zergs. You really only ever raid in your tier or below therefore 3 man groups never have or never will raid us and that is how it should be not 3 man groups taking down 20 man groups that is just absurd
you guys obviously haven't played a large Rustafied or Rusty Moose server...
"Tool Cupboard Changes
Maurino Berry
I've added an extra row of slots to the tool cupboard. [This is all
we can do right now without reworking the UI] , but work on this is not
even close to done, so expect lots more changes up next.
BTW, stop putting gunpowder and explosives in your cupboard, because
when we hotfix the game to disallow that we'll just destroy any items
that don't belong there." - Helk, Devblog 190
just reminding them
While I agree with you there are also problems with having too much TC. Essentially the loot dosent drop from TCS anymore which is understandable but you can put into it gp sulfur scrap low grade and I use it to my advantage ATM so if I do get raided I keep all my stuff except components . So by adding more TC places solo players like us will have huge broken advantage once they fix this issue i do agree with more TC room and I think a % of TC loot should drop so incase of an online raid the defender can't hide all his loot in TC
or just make it so all of the loot drops?
i see where you are coming from though
your quality of life decreased to improve my quality of life...I think this is called balance?
You can't have the cake and eat it too... chose to either build smaller base - or build a big one (for your supposed "qualities of life") but then suffer the consequences.
When I want to drink alot of alcohol - I will suffer the consequences the next morning... the choice is all mine...
wish they made hangover-free alcohol...
i see your point and agree but when you are a high pop vanilla server with an 11 man crew it isn't really viable to build smaller as we will just get raided so easily
When I want to drink a lot of alcohol - I will suffer the consequences the next morning... the choice is all mine... why do you drink the alcohol? to feel good? to feel confident? I suppose we could all go our separate ways and play different games but no. Rust is special and we like playing it together and i dont think our enjoyment of the game should be hindered because the Devs cant be bothered to add a couple extra slots?
I don't understand why Zergs are always punished... if your solo on a no group limit server that is 100% your fault. If you don't wanna get dicked on by zergs go play a solo server?
stop winging about getting steam rolled by a zerg when your a trio on Rustafied EU main go play a trio server...
Wish they made salt free rust...
Solos are punished as well. You have no one else to put anything in the TC poof. LOL So many bases decayed you can raid all day and never take even a weapon. Run across the map and loot. Get a base up, get a code lock if you are lucky, but you can not place a metal door until you have a furnace. So you wait just 5 mins too long to get that metal door up....AND flame raided lol.
personally when i played solo i never got flame raided...
and solo bases are so small never more then 5k stone upkeep me alone can farm about 12k stone in a single run and you could prob put enough resources in a TC to last the entire wipe
True, but I flame raid everyone with a wood door roof or wall within 5 squares of our base daily
Stop making demands and buy skins, peasants!
well thats you and prob different for every server
wtf?
How to DDOS raid.
Run to wall of base you want to raid. Check Condition. DDOS the server for 3 hours. Login check condition. If no change DDOS again for 3 hours. Login again. If condition is lowered DDOS 1 last time. Login raid move item to your own base. Then DDOS the server again.
but adding more TC slots would mean that you could have a base that is protected for the whole wipe and therefore DDOS raids would be worthless if not slightly annoying?
Sure if you can get it in before the mob packet floods
well tbh I would rather not play a server thats getting DDosed 24/7
You can all quit complaining. TC's were just changed on staging to an allocation based system. You basically now spend resources to buy time on a set use. If use increases, time decreases.
didnt make much sense?
so if upkeep is 20k stone a day we can 'pay' 40k stone to be protected for 2 days?
Yeah. It still goes into the TC slot, but then when you submit it, it disappears and gives you time protected.
is there a high pop solo/duo/trio server that is official (like the Reddit.com/r/ is what I play on curently) that is decent hardware, good ping and anlways as people to shoot?
I'd love to play a solo(small group) restricted server as long as its not some crappy server with 10/200 pop and rampant hackers...
brits community? its 2x
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