I'm new as well... Was actually kind of hoping someone would post a helpful response
[url]www.codecademy.com[/url], if your completely new this might be the best resource for learning, it gives you some projects to work on and hone your skills.
[url]http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_mysql_intro.asp[/url] for php mysql intro.
But its really a hard question you are asking, which type of web development are you interested in ?
You got some options to choose from:
Frontend: primarly html,css,js,jquery and creating beatiful design through those languages "easiest" to learn from scratch.
Backend: PHP,ASP,PERL,C# the list goes on this is where you create databases and builds a system from scratch, also the hardest to be good at.
Graphics: photoshop, Illustrator,"flash", drawing, design.
There might be more sub domains but i would recommend choosing one and starting from there.
But all in all it depends on YOU and how many hours you want to spend into it, it demands quite the time to become somewhat decent at these languages.
[QUOTE=dustymcp;44052751][url]www.codecademy.com[/url], if your completely new this might be the best resource for learning, it gives you some projects to work on and hone your skills.
[url]http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_mysql_intro.asp[/url] for php mysql intro.
But its really a hard question you are asking, which type of web development are you interested in ?
You got some options to choose from:
Frontend: primarly html,css,js,jquery and creating beatiful design through those languages "easiest" to learn from scratch.
Backend: PHP,ASP,PERL,C# the list goes on this is where you create databases and builds a system from scratch, also the hardest to be good at.
Graphics: photoshop, Illustrator,"flash", drawing, design.
There might be more sub domains but i would recommend choosing one and starting from there.
But all in all it depends on YOU and how many hours you want to spend into it, it demands quite the time to become somewhat decent at these languages.[/QUOTE]
Few corrections:
* Don't use PHP or MySQL unless you absolutely have to.
* No one uses Perl for webdev anymore.
* Oh god no not flash
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44060111]Few corrections:
* Don't use PHP or MySQL unless you absolutely have to.
* No one uses Perl for webdev anymore.
* Oh god no not flash[/QUOTE]
Hence the "" but it is good fun though, and i was just stating languages that was in use, and maybe noone uses perl anymore but systems still run this, and if you want a job its always good being able to fix/maintain older systems.
Codecademy is great, start there. You don't need to look into PHP or SQL yet if you're just starting out plus you might not even need them for any websites that you do. When you've got the hang of making websites, there are some good design ideas here [url]http://www.webdesign-inspiration.com/web-designs/style/modern[/url]
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44060111]Few corrections:
* Don't use PHP or MySQL unless you absolutely have to.
* No one uses Perl for webdev anymore.
* Oh god no not flash[/QUOTE]
I agree with the last two points but there is no reason not to use MySQL unless you are working for a large scale corporation and it won't meet your performance needs..
Bashing PHP as a poor technology just makes this person seem like a biased asshole. I am sure he will pipe up with something like Java or ASPX instead of php.. in which case I will laugh my ass off that he is even talking at all.
[QUOTE=Immortalis;44109728]I agree with the last two points but there is no reason not to use MySQL unless you are working for a large scale corporation and it won't meet your performance needs..
Bashing PHP as a poor technology just makes this person seem like a biased asshole. I am sure he will pipe up with something like Java or ASPX instead of php.. in which case I will laugh my ass off that he is even talking at all.[/QUOTE]
Ruby, node, python, scala, etc.
Postgres over MySQL. I'm not one of those NoSQL evangelists. Both have their place.
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And what's wrong with ASP.NET? Core concept, not the windows-only part.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44109767]Ruby, node, python, scala, etc.
Postgres over MySQL. I'm not one of those NoSQL evangelists. Both have their place.
[editline]3rd March 2014[/editline]
And what's wrong with ASP.NET? Core concept, not the windows-only part.[/QUOTE]
Honestly now it just seems like you are listing stuff.. Node? Really? The javascript library?
What are you talking about.
ASP.NET being Windows-Only is irrelevant as far as the client is concerned..
[QUOTE=Immortalis;44109901]Honestly now it just seems like you are listing stuff.. Node? Really? The javascript library?
What are you talking about.
ASP.NET being Windows-Only is irrelevant as far as the client is concerned..[/QUOTE]
Node.js, the javascript runtime for web applications?
Since everyone in here are experts i would love to see some examples or tutorials covering mySQL/PHP which is easy to go into without PDO or oop, so for a newbie, does anyone have this?
The best resource i found, and the most understandable was the w3 example, i now understand people dont like this, so lets find some better examples, does anyone have any they used when they where new, which is better ?
Seriously, just use PDO. The old mysql_* functions are being removed so there is no point learning them.
I've posted a basic example here and it's not complicated.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1134070&p=44111825&viewfull=1#post44111825[/url]
[QUOTE=Immortalis;44109728]I agree with the last two points but there is no reason not to use MySQL unless you are working for a large scale corporation and it won't meet your performance needs..
Bashing PHP as a poor technology just makes this person seem like a biased asshole. I am sure he will pipe up with something like Java or ASPX instead of php.. in which case I will laugh my ass off that he is even talking at all.[/QUOTE]
PHP [I]is[/I] a poor technology. I work with it every day for my 9-5 and I run in to issues with it significantly more frequently than I do with Ruby or Javascript/Node, and that's true even though I've been using PHP for way longer. It's a kludgey, badly planned piece of crap. It works, but it's not even close to the best tool among it's kin.
[editline]3rd March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=dustymcp;44111655]Since everyone in here are experts i would love to see some examples or tutorials covering mySQL/PHP which is easy to go into without PDO or oop, so for a newbie, does anyone have this?[/QUOTE]
Just my two cents, but I'd prioritize learning the OOP thing over learning how to interact with MySQL because that's going to have implications [B]everywhere[/B] that you're writing PHP.
I'm willing to help someone out on HTML/CSS/Javascript or PHP if it's wanted. Add me on Steam.
Code academy absolutely fantastic. When you learn the basics of HTML and CSS, get Dreamweaver.
EDIT:
I guess I'm wrong; I suppose DW only seems great to me because I am new too and I am doing VERY basic stuff.
Uhm. I didn't like Dreamweaver, found it very cluttered and the webpage renderer wasn't very good. Adobe do good products but I never thought that one was designed very well
I've had to remove all the bogus code off a Dreamweaver page once...
Do [B]NOT [/B]use it [B][I]ever [/I][/B]unless you're a fetichist that gets a hard-on to having thousands of duplicates of the same image, inline styles ([I]even for fucking body[/I]) and fixed things that will break whatever you do.
IMO even Notepad is friendlier.
Is there actually something like Dreamweaver that produces nice friendly code?
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;44130609]Is there actually something like Dreamweaver that produces nice friendly code?[/QUOTE]
Text editors.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;44130609]Is there actually something like Dreamweaver that produces nice friendly code?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://macaw.co[/url]
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;44130609]Is there actually something like Dreamweaver that produces nice friendly code?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.google.com/webdesigner/[/url]
Shouldn't this as well?
[QUOTE=Killervalon;44137244][url]https://www.google.com/webdesigner/[/url]
Shouldn't this as well?[/QUOTE]
I've tried it. It's definitely better than DW, but it [I]might [/I]lack some useful tools IMO. (By its templates, you can see that it was designed with web ads in mind.)
If you aren't planning on doing anything too complicated it will probably be fine.
Visual studio got a designer aswell, not sure how good it is never used it.
Honestly if you are just starting out you need to start with the foundations, which is HTML and basic CSS. [url]http://www.w3schools.com/html/[/url] is a great resource for starters. I'd recommend PHP, MySQL, Javascript, JQuery, or Node.js after that.
You should also quickly learn how to make responsive webpages using something such as bootstrap or maybe even roots.io, which is a responsive WP theme.
[QUOTE=CabinetSpace;44167637]Honestly if you are just starting out you need to start with the foundations, which is HTML and basic CSS. [url]http://www.w3schools.com/html/[/url] is a great resource for starters. I'd recommend PHP, MySQL, Javascript, JQuery, or Node.js after that.
You should also quickly learn how to make responsive webpages using something such as bootstrap or maybe even roots.io, which is a responsive WP theme.[/QUOTE]
It seems like I've been using the word "obligatory" a lot today, but still, obligatory [url]http://www.w3fools.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44167647]It seems like I've been using the word "obligatory" a lot today, but still, obligatory [url]http://www.w3fools.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't see anything wrong with using W3 Schools for learning things such as basic HTML. It's a great place for very basic learning, and is structured well for just that. After the basics though, it is not so great.
The site refusing to disavow themselves from the W3C is a different argument altogether, though.
[QUOTE=CabinetSpace;44167665]I don't see anything wrong with using W3 Schools for learning things such as basic HTML. It's a great place for very basic learning, and is structured well for just that. After the basics though, it is not so great.
The site refusing to disavow themselves from the W3C is a different argument altogether, though.[/QUOTE]
I'd recommend codecademy. Plus it's interactive, which makes you feel less like you're learning from a wikipedia page (not to mention the whole "click here to learn more" vibe I get from w3schools) (I actually had a whole criticism of w3schools here but I decided that it was pointless).
Just started on code academy, I've learn a lot of new things in a short space of time, I highly recommend it :P
Learning HTML And CSS at the minute
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