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Hey, I would like to start learning some php, i know a good amount of html and css, but would like to start creating useful systems, not just design work. I'd like to create things such as forums and eCommerce systems, anyone know of any good tutorials, ive had a look but most just explain about creating variable's etc, nothing to build anything usefull :P Cheers!

[QUOTE=bury043;44429799]I'd like to create things such as forums and eCommerce systems[/QUOTE] I'm afraid that I might kill your motivation by telling you this, but I'll just be honest with you: That's not going to happen anytime soon with the amount of programming knowledge that you appear to have. It's not an easy job to develop an application, yet alone one as complex as a forum or eCommerce system. With that being said, you would've made that discovery yourself as soon as you would've tried to implement one of these. I wouldn't be surprised if that would have definitely killed your motivation. Start small first, and you'll be rewarded with instant gratification rather than continuous disappointment.

Yea, i gathered that ;D Any suggestions on what to work on?

[url]http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/php[/url] I find this to be the best because the tutorials are interactive. By the way, if you want to run php on your computer, you're going to need a local web server. I find XAMPP the easiest for this, but for now, try that tutorial

[QUOTE=bury043;44429799] ive had a look but most just explain about creating variable's etc, nothing to build anything usefull :P Cheers![/QUOTE] You won't be building anything useful for a long time, you have to start at the basics, like creating variables. There's no way around it.

Yea, i just don't understand why every tutorial shows the exactly same thing? I know the basics, i just cant find anything else to build on that? I may be impatient, but i think having something to work for is better that echoing "hello world" on a page:P Yea, i have a dedicated server anyway, cheers for the help though!

[QUOTE=bury043;44450655]Yea, i just don't understand why every tutorial shows the exactly same thing? I know the basics, i just cant find anything else to build on that? I may be impatient, but i think having something to work for is better that echoing "hello world" on a page:P Yea, i have a dedicated server anyway, cheers for the help though![/QUOTE] I think you need to determine what to do then stick to it, if you got the basics down on php it shouldnt be to hard getting into SQL and start making that forum?

Oh jeez... Just use an existant forum software that does the EXACT same job and save yourself some trouble while you're at it.

[QUOTE=bury043;44450655]Yea, i just don't understand why every tutorial shows the exactly same thing? I know the basics, i just cant find anything else to build on that? I may be impatient, but i think having something to work for is better that echoing "hello world" on a page:P Yea, i have a dedicated server anyway, cheers for the help though![/QUOTE] Get a book. A well written, up to date book will be more useful than a random collection of tutorials because it will make sure you get a lot more even and thorough coverage of the things you need to learn. I'd also recommend that you look in to Ruby/Rails instead of PHP. PHP will work, but it's definitely not the nicest tool in the box. Here's a good (free!) book for Ruby/Rails if you're interested in that: ruby.railstutorial.org

[QUOTE] Just use an existent forum software that does the EXACT same job[/QUOTE] Its not about that, i would like to learn it for the fun of it, and to have as a skill. The forum was just an example of things that could be made with php, i would like to learn php to build more than just forums:P Thanks for your suggestion Kmart, il definable look into that:)