Making my first site. Any how to's to make it look great? - Developers

I started a comic company called "That Was Funny!" with my friends at school. So far im using facebook as the website since i have not made it yet.. Is there some good idea's to make my site look nice. I want it to sorta look like [url]http://www.explosm.net/[/url] except with a more "facepunchier" look. by that i mean logo to the left. Big gap to say where you are on the site and login to the right. Using photoshop to design the mockup version of the site. scratch that using dreamweaver

no don't use a template (maker)

I'd recommend learning Dreamweaver a bit, I could make a simple [url=http://home.sf-nett.no/afromana/]website[/url] with about 2 days of practice with it. Though I'm not an experienced web designer, so there might be better alternatives. Problem with Dreamweaver is that Its an Adobe program, and they're pretty expensive... Got mine with school.

Errr I'm not one to talk but you have done absolutely everything wrong, which leads me to think that this is a troll: MS Paint Facebook pictures 'facepunchy style' Template maker [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] If you're legit, I'd say get a less coding based web design software, like Serif Webplus or something. It's a lot easier to use than Dreamweaver.

[QUOTE=afromana;25913492]I'd recommend learning Dreamweaver a bit, I could make a simple [url=http://home.sf-nett.no/afromana/]website[/url] with about 2 days of practice with it. Though I'm not an experienced web designer, so there might be better alternatives. Problem with Dreamweaver is that Its an Adobe program, and they're pretty expensive... Got mine with school.[/QUOTE] The real problem with Dreamweaver is it makes terrible code and unsatisfactory websites, any "professional" who uses Dreamweaver now a days is instantly ridiculed. I don't get why people can't take the small amount of time to learn HTML and CSS, they are very easy and simple languages.

[QUOTE=:awesome:;25924542]The real problem with Dreamweaver is it makes terrible code and unsatisfactory websites, any "professional" who uses Dreamweaver now a days is instantly ridiculed. I don't get why people can't take the small amount of time to learn HTML and CSS, they are very easy and simple languages.[/QUOTE]My course is teaching me to create the look of the site in fireworks/photoshop and then finishing up in Dreamweaver. I'm curious to see how you would create a site? I quite like yours.

[QUOTE=MisterM;25926469]My course is teaching me to create the look of the site in fireworks/photoshop and then finishing up in Dreamweaver. I'm curious to see how you would create a site? I quite like yours.[/QUOTE] Thanks! All my website are first designed in Adobe Photoshop then I extract bits and pieces of the psd and construct the finished website in Notepad++. The process sometimes sounds hard to some people, but after doing it for the last year it's gotten pretty easy. Dreamweaver isn't completely bad though, If you have it then you might as well not let it go to waste. The Code View editing area is actually quite nice, Please try to steer yourself away from the design view though!

I do have photoshop. I want it to sorta look like a forum. and by blueprint i mean where things go. Like photos banners and all that. I used blogspot to test the template but it failed so i bought dreamweaver to help. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] Facebook pictures??? Are you dumb i said im using facebook to put my pictures till my website is finished. Then imgur will take care of the job. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] facepunchy style. I want the site banner to look like it. Login on the right side. Logo to the left and a big gap to say where you are

[QUOTE=honkhonkimacar;25926769]I do have photoshop. I want it to sorta look like a forum. and by blueprint i mean where things go. Like photos banners and all that. I used blogspot to test the template but it failed so i bought dreamweaver to help. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] Facebook pictures??? Are you dumb i said im using facebook to put my pictures till my website is finished. Then imgur will take care of the job. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] facepunchy style. I want the site banner to look like it. Login on the right side. Logo to the left and a big gap to say where you are[/QUOTE] I don't get exactly what you're saying, you tried to make a template in photoshop only and put it on your blogspot?

[QUOTE=Alcapwne;25924392]Errr I'm not one to talk but you have done absolutely everything wrong, which leads me to think that this is a troll: MS Paint Facebook pictures 'facepunchy style' Template maker [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] [b]If you're legit, I'd say get a less coding based web design software, like Serif Webplus or something. It's a lot easier to use than Dreamweaver[/b].[/QUOTE] What if i want to use dreamweaver?

[QUOTE=honkhonkimacar;25926860]What if i want to use dreamweaver?[/QUOTE] Then you end up with a shit site.

[QUOTE=honkhonkimacar;25926860]What if i want to use dreamweaver?[/QUOTE] Let's just say it's a bad idea.

[QUOTE=compwhizii;25929446]Then you end of with a shit site.[/QUOTE] Doh, tell my lecturers that! I suppose since its part of my assignments I'll have to make do.

Why would they mark you on what text editor/IDE you use?

[QUOTE=:awesome:;25929487]Let's just say it's a bad idea.[/QUOTE] The only reason I use Dreamweaver is because we're currently learning basic Web Designing at school, and everyone including the teacher Is using Dreamweaver Got any recommendations of what software I should use instead?

Notepad++.

[QUOTE=afromana;25935553]The only reason I use Dreamweaver is because we're currently learning basic Web Designing at school, and everyone including the teacher Is using Dreamweaver Got any recommendations of what software I should use instead?[/QUOTE] Only about [url="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1021296-whats-the-best-program-for-making-web-sites"]three pages worth[/url] :v:

I can't see why everyone hates on Dreamweaver? Really, it's predictive code helped a bit, although it's preview engine is fucked up, I just save and send to Safari to check how it looks. I can always use Caffeine or Coda (Macfag here) but I don't code much and I just don't see the hate. If you get it free from your school then I find it alright. It has to be said though, Notepad++ is a great bit of kit.

When I want to quickly edit code I don't want to wait for Dreamweaver to load. It's generally pretty slower, and doesn't have the syntax highlighting I would hope for. Besides it being associated with 12 years olds using the design view to make sites.

I guess Dreamweaver is fine for School but there are better free tools out there.

[QUOTE=codenamecueball;25938572]I can't see why everyone hates on Dreamweaver? Really, it's predictive code helped a bit, although it's preview engine is fucked up, I just save and send to Safari to check how it looks. I can always use Caffeine or Coda (Macfag here) but I don't code much and I just don't see the hate. If you get it free from your school then I find it alright. It has to be said though, Notepad++ is a great bit of kit.[/QUOTE] You're making the assumption that he doesn't use the 'design' view to create his websites. Dreamweaver = design view. If you're just going to use it for features such as syntax highlighting then what's the point of using such an obtuse program?

DW's autocompletion is pretty sucky anyway. VS's is markedly better

I think one of the main reasons schools use DW is because it comes with the Adobe Suite.

[QUOTE=jaybuz;25945768]I think one of the main reasons schools use DW is because it comes with the Adobe Suite.[/QUOTE] And it's easy for the teachers to teach students how to drag and drop, as opposed to actually learning how things work.

[QUOTE=:awesome:;25950302]And it's easy for the teachers to teach students how to drag and drop, as opposed to actually learning how things work.[/QUOTE] +1 I took a VET (basically, a course that is designed to train you to enter the workforce) course in Interactive Digital Media this year and one of the assignments was web development. I ended up (and anyone in the class would agree) teaching that teacher more than she taught me. [editline]9th November 2010[/editline] As they say, those who can't do, teach. It's a pretty sad reflection on importance placed education on in modern society.

Hopefully someday we'll get some good web design teachers :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Siemens;25950448]As they say, those who can't do, teach.[/QUOTE] And those who can't teach, teach PE.

[QUOTE=codenamecueball;25938572]I can't see why everyone hates on Dreamweaver? Really, it's predictive code helped a bit, although it's preview engine is fucked up, I just save and send to Safari to check how it looks. I can always use Caffeine or Coda (Macfag here) but I don't code much and I just don't see the hate. If you get it free from your school then I find it alright. It has to be said though, Notepad++ is a great bit of kit.[/QUOTE] Take away the design view, and it becomes a rather bloated text editor. There's still a lot of useful features in Dreamweaver, but if you only use it to write out code manually, like most of us here do, then you're better off with a text editor, it's faster, leaner and cheaper (in the case of Sublime) or free (in the case of Notepad++).

[QUOTE=Qombat;25950595]And those who can't teach, teach PE.[/QUOTE] An those who can't teach PE, become the facepunch sysadmin.

[QUOTE=:awesome:;25950501]Hopefully someday we'll get some good web design teachers :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Nope, there's more money in being a web designer if you're good. That's why the teachers are shit - all the smart people are out making money.