sv_downloadurl Hosting

[<ToD> Aar]

Both myself and Wobbier made services to provide free sv_downloadurl hosting to people who would like to shorten the downloads of users on their server and lighten the download load on their server. Despite the obvious that these services will inevitably be abused and probably removed, I want a comparison between the actual design elements of both services.

Mine: [url]http://src.deviant-core.net/[/url]
Wobbier: [url]http://fastdl.wobbier.com/[/url]
We share ideas but the implementations are different.

[b]tl;dr[/b]: which is better? why? what do you like out of the designs of both? what do you dislike?
Note: I'd seriously prefer talk relevant to the methods of how things are done and code related things hence the section.

[editline]8:27[/editline]
Mine:
[img]http://open.deviant-core.net/OTHER/srcdl.png[/img]

Wobbier's:
[img]http://imgkk.com/i/8bra.png[/img]

[editline]8:29[/editline]
Features of Mine: queer login screen featuring an explanation but has problems (heh), fully dynamic (ajax) control panel using 128x128 high resolution icons, installation and uninstallation feature for managing games, ftp account granted with secure 12 character pseudo-random password, example code to add to server.cfg, and more.

Features of Wobbier's: defined login screen with no explanation, static control panel using 64x64 icons, installation and uninstallation feature for managing games, ftp account granted with 7 character pseudo-random password, example code to add to server.cfg, and more.

[Encryption]

I think Wobbier's looks great. It has a nice GUI and really looks nice.

[KSI]

Wobbier

[editline]08:02PM[/editline]

Just looks more professional and less cluttered.

[<ToD> Aar]

[QUOTE=Encryption;22475303]I think Wobbier's looks great. It has a nice GUI and really looks nice.[/QUOTE]

You didn't log in nor did you register for mine.
Is your comparison solely based on the home page?
Part of my design is simplicity.
And you may have not even logged in or registered on Wobbier's.

[editline]08:08PM[/editline]

[QUOTE=KSI;22475905]Wobbier

[editline]08:02PM[/editline]

Just looks more professional and less cluttered.[/QUOTE]

You did it too. You didn't register for mine.

[sseug]

Both designs suffer from a crippling loss of originality, but at least the second one has an excuse for a layout.

[Darkimmortal]

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/8bra.png[/img]

Looks nice. I'll leave it up to the OP to post screenshots of his.

[Wobbier]

[QUOTE=sseug;22476176]Both designs suffer from a crippling loss of originality, but at least the second one has an excuse for a layout.[/QUOTE]

Pfft' who needs originality :P maybe if you took a second to register for Chromatica's you would see how much work he put into his.

[sseug]

[QUOTE=Wobbier;22476368]Pfft' who needs originality[/QUOTE]
Everyone. His is so unattractive that I just can't be bothered to register - since I'm not interested in the functionality the only benefit would be seeing "how much work he put into it [visually]", but it's just way too dull for me to be even slightly intrigued.

[editline]12:45AM[/editline]

And your use of FP's striped background not only on the pages in the OP but also on the OP's site is just blagh.

[editline]12:48AM[/editline]

[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22475929]You didn't log in nor did you register for mine.
Is your comparison solely based on the home page?
Part of my design is simplicity.
And you may have not even logged in or registered on Wobbier's.

[editline]08:08PM[/editline]

You did it too. You didn't register for mine.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! You make it sound like it's their fault. Your page doesn't [b]make[/b] me want to register.
Plus, why are you posting these here anyway? They're not even done, if you're so insecure about your design skills that you feel that you need an entire forum's opinion just a little into the project then you should check what you're doing.
Also, considering that this is supposed to become an actual site, they both lack any form of greater structure (for anything more than a few pages).

[editline]12:48AM[/editline]

And what the balls why does it link me to a geoip trace for my own IP?

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

that isn't the FP striped background. Sorry that it's physically impossible to make a striped background that doesn't resemble another one. If they're too thin they look weird and same with if they're too angled downward, but it's different colors and possibly different angle. Was made for my actual site then re-used in both our sv_downloadurl hosts.

[sseug]

[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22476869]that isn't the FP striped background. Sorry that it's physically impossible to make a striped background that doesn't resemble another one. If they're too thin they look weird, but it's different colors and a different angle. Was made for my actual site then re-used in both our sv_downloadurl hosts.[/QUOTE]

Sorry if I sound like a dick but your failure to acknowledge your own shortcomings in design makes me disconsider your stuff entirely.

[editline]12:53AM[/editline]

OK fine, I registered on your site. It's inconsistent in everything from colors (gray text on gray background on white background on striped background) to accessibility (reset button for a three-field form?) and...everything (some text randomly goes bold when I mouseover it?).

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

I'm aware you dislike my home page. I updated the main post and in the features part mentioned that apparently it's queer. I'm actually going to go redo it soon to look more like the rest of the site and probably to have a more structured look. Yes, these are both wip and the point of getting people's opinons is so we can improve them. I'll look into a better structure for the site as well, not sure about wobbier. The ip thing was just for shits and giggles, I did it for no reason in particular and he followed. Finally, you're right moreso than you sound like a dick. I was kind of ignoring the fact that my home page is terrible mostly because I keep mine logged in and keep forgetting about it as I change things, thanks though.

[sseug]

Also you didn't style your tables, and you're using table headings when you should be using table cells.

I could continue...

...so I will.

I understand that it isn't finished, but your login "system" logs me out when I visit the front page. It also sets a different PHPSESSID cookie every time I log in (now I have three, yay!). It also seems to set them for different domains :byodood:

And last but not least, your CSS is absolutely ridiculous

#error2 {
	text-align: center;
	width: 175px;
	margin: 0 auto;
	font-size: 14px;
	color: #C33;
	border: 1px solid #C33;
	background-color: #F99;
	-webkit-border-radius: .4em;
	-moz-border-radius: .4em;
	border-radius: .4em;
	padding-left: 5px;
	padding-right: 5px;
}

#success {
	text-align: center;
	width: 175px;
	margin: 0 auto;
	font-size: 14px;
	color: #090;
	border: 1px solid #090;
	background-color: #3C3;
	-webkit-border-radius: .4em;
	-moz-border-radius: .4em;
	border-radius: .4em;
	padding-left: 5px;
	padding-right: 5px;
}

#notify {
	text-align: center;
	width: 360px;
	margin: 0 auto;
	font-size: 14px;
	color: #666;
	border: 1px solid #666;
	background-color: #CCC;
	-webkit-border-radius: .4em;
	-moz-border-radius: .4em;
	border-radius: .4em;
	padding-left: 5px;
	padding-right: 5px;
}

#notify2 {
	text-align: center;
	width: 120px;
	margin: 0 auto;
	margin-top: 30px;
	margin-bttom: 6px;
	font-size: 14px;
	color: #666;
	border: 1px solid #666;
	background-color: #CCC;
	-webkit-border-radius: .4em;
	-moz-border-radius: .4em;
	border-radius: .4em;
	padding-left: 5px;
	padding-right: 5px;
}

#ftpinfo {
	margin: 0 auto;
	margin-top: 20px;
	border: 2px solid #666;
	-webkit-border-radius: .4em;
	-moz-border-radius: .4em;
	border-radius: .4em;
	background: #CCC;
	color: #666;
	font-size: 12px;
	padding: 3px;
}

Whyyyyy?

[editline]12:59AM[/editline]

[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22477044]I'm aware you dislike my home page. I updated the main post and in the features part mentioned that apparently it's queer. I'm actually going to go redo it soon to look more like the rest of the site and probably to have a more structured look. Yes, these are both wip and the point of getting people's opinons is so we can improve them. I'll look into a better structure for the site as well, not sure about wobbier. The ip thing was just for shits and giggles, I did it for no reason in particular and he followed. Finally, you're right moreso than you sound like a dick. I was kind of ignoring the fact that my home page is terrible mostly because I keep mine logged in and keep forgetting about it as I change things,
[/QUOTE]
:byodood:
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22477044]thanks though.[/QUOTE]
np.

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

[QUOTE=sseug;22477065]I understand that it isn't finished, but your login "system" logs me out when I visit the front page. It also sets a different PHPSESSID cookie every time I log in (now I have three, yay!). It also seems to set them for different domains :byodood:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, this was a glitch that started happening today. I'll look into it right away.

[QUOTE=sseug;22477065]*css*
Whyyyyy?[/QUOTE]

Yeah... it's extraneously redundant, I know. I'll clean it up when the site is more complete.

And, was that really a misuse of table headers? I could've sworn that's what they were for and honestly, I was just messing around with the hover thing when I put in the bolds, it does look kind of weird, I'll remove it I guess.

Oh and the reset button on the registration is just incase someone is really lazy or something.

[sseug]

[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22477190]Yeah, this was a glitch that started happening today. I'll look into it right away.

Yeah... it's extraneously redundant, I know. I'll clean it up when the site is more complete.

And, was that really a misuse of table headers? I could've sworn that's what they were for and honestly, I was just messing around with the hover thing when I put in the bolds, it does look kind of weird, I'll remove it I guess.[/QUOTE]

<table style="width:100%;"><tbody>
     <tr>
          <th>Month</th>
          <th>Number of bananas</th>
     </tr>
     <tr>
          <td>May</td>
          <td>1234</td>
     </tr>
     <tr>
          <td>August</td>
          <td>1337</td>
     </tr>
</tbody></table>

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

ah. stupid dreamweaver... I'll change em to cells, thanks.
Oh and I'm surprised you didn't comment on wobbier using a table to align his home page

[sseug]

[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22477336]dreamweaver[/QUOTE]
:sigh: x 500

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

literally the only automated thing I would use at all in dreamweaver and I'm sure you don't like the fact that I use dreamweaver at all. Anything good you'd suggest otherwise?

[Wobbier]

[QUOTE=sseug;22477376]:sigh: x 500[/QUOTE]

what do you use?

[sseug]

[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;22477417]literally the only automated thing I would use at all in dreamweaver and I'm sure you don't like the fact that I use dreamweaver at all. Anything good you'd suggest otherwise?[/QUOTE]

Windows: Notepad++, Sublime Text (I don't use it personally but some people enjoy it)
Mac: Coda (most fully-featured IDE/editor/everything), Textmate (sexiest editor)
Linux: gedit

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

ah, gedit. I used gedit when I developed on Linux. I'll look into Coda. Yet again, thanks.
Now I'm having some weird issue with a redirection loop whenever I fix my check for visiting the home page of the site and redirecting you back to the cpanel.

[editline]09:47PM[/editline]

Alright, fixed the redirect loop and some other stuff. Gonna redesign the home page now to be more appealing.

[editline]09:55PM[/editline]

Started optimizing the css and removed a lot of redundancy, it's quite smaller now :D

[KSI]

I enjoy the Dreamweaver Code view. Design view is horrible.

[&lt;ToD&gt; Aar]

I only use the Code view, design view doesn't even work because of how I structure my sites.

[turb__]

Dreamweaver code view is [b]the best god damn HTML/CSS editor I have ever used[/b]. Design view sucks

Visual Studio is the best JavaScript editor I've ever used.

[Tools]

I prefer Wobbier's, because his icons are smaller, and less "in your face" 'ish

[Maccabee]

Don't ask us for our opinion and then tell us we are wrong. We tend to not like that.

[Snakess]

I have to say I prefer Wobbier's one too, if you make the icons a little bit smaller, and the text a little too, I think it would look a little bit better.

[editline]02:40PM[/editline]

Although Wobbier's has a constant logout button at the bottom?

[Nisd]

Wobbier's looks like tcadmin

[Snakess]

Doesn't look too similar.. it's the icons that look like it..

[editline]02:50PM[/editline]

[IMG]http://xsearch.me/img/2.jpg[/IMG]

[sseug]

Actually it looks exactly like it.

[Nisd]

Default skin:
[img]http://ahb.me/489[/img]

And all the icons is the same.
(well his and tcadmin)