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Some things you want to know before you even respond to this: [url]http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/surface-entertainment-help-wanted.255488/[/url] [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] Some golden nuggets: [quote] Says here that you have a publishing deal for this game with EA *and* have an open world game being published by Rockstar. I would love to see some evidence of that truth from the publisher side. [/quote] [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] [quote]All this yet you can't afford a .com domain and you're arguing with kids on the forum?[/quote] [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] Are you even a registered LLC? You do know that's not just something to look "professional" is it.

[QUOTE=Asgard;49546083]Some things you want to know before you even respond to this: [url]http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/surface-entertainment-help-wanted.255488/[/url] [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] Some golden nuggets: [editline]17th January 2016[/editline][/QUOTE] Ooh sorry , please ignore that . That thread is about 2 years old now.

I'd also like to point out that your first plan was to make this in Unity, then Unreal, and now CryEngine.

Yes I do

[QUOTE=jordan100600;49546106]Ooh sorry , please ignore that . That thread is about 2 years old now.[/QUOTE] I'd love to ignore it, but it's pretty damning.

We have been using Cryengine for a year , everyone is a professional in cryengine. Here are some links of what our level designer made [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNkL1reURqY[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSxuM0tGEZI[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7qHGRe8z_U[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3I39PFawPA[/url] [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] We actually can afford a .com domain that was 2 years ago

Can I ask then why you're using ripped art? On your website: [img]http://surfacehub.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/3/6/23361702/6180245.jpg[/img] The original: [img]http://img15.deviantart.net/9002/i/2010/266/b/2/afghanistan_1983_by_ljfhutch-d2zct14.jpg[/img] [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] You shopped out the artist's signature, not nice :<

Old , the people who posted those are long gone. And we got permission from the creator too. Everything that is wrong has been fixed now.

[QUOTE=jordan100600;49546169]Old , the people who posted those are long gone. And we got permission from the creator too. Everything that is wrong has been fixed now.[/QUOTE] Then why is it still online? Also where's the domain that you can afford

Thanks for letting me know that old website is still up , I will contact the creator to take it down immediately.

Better question yet, why hasn't there been any progress in 2 years since the creation of that thread?

You see with a project like this ,its best that we get plenty of stuff done before we post trailers , make websites etc. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] There has been. If you would like to continue this conversation elsewhere please do so. Trying to embarrass using 2 year old information that is no longer accurate isn't helping. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] That website isnt online. For me it says 404 page not found

So can you show anything? And I'd like to continue the conversation here. Where it's relevant. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] [url]http://surfacehub.weebly.com/[/url]

Yes

Yes please don't put any effort into recruiting people. Like uploading images to imgur :/

Thank you , I will now. Please stop trying to embarrass us , it doesn't solve anything.

You prefer to have people join you blindly I assume?

In what state is your LLC registered?

Nope , everyone who has joined has seen it. [url]http://imgur.com/gallery/lVDKjLE/new[/url] [url]http://imgur.com/a/IxrvB[/url] [url]http://imgur.com/a/zvb8l[/url]

-snip, shows on indiedb-

Forget it , if you guys dont want to join , just dont say anything. Making the proposer look bad doesn't solve anything. I am going to delete this thread. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] Yes Mytech is helping us with Red Valor. David Stingl made the model and he is helping as a 3D Artist.

But we didn't even get to how much you pay yet :(

What do you mean?

You need to work on how you present yourself before you go advertising yourself. Using words like "alot" and disregarding simple capitalization rules is unprofessional, but that's just the start. I know the thread was two years ago, but on the first page alone I can point out several mistakes you have made: [quote]I can see as you all are testifying against me , if you do not want to help please stop posting here.[/quote] Dismissal of public opinion isn't the best thing to do, but it's bad to "professionally" tell people to fuck off. [quote]Also , we are planning to register a domain this summer , as soon as we input our funds into the company's Pay-Pal account.[/quote] Don't tell people what you use to store your money if it's not something business-grade, it make you look unprofessional [quote]Would you like to help with the game or not .[/quote] Impatience implies immaturity. Immaturity makes you look bad. [quote] Also , I have sent an email to EA they have replied quoting that they will forward to higher authority , I honestly do not know who has been editing the website as 3 people are able to edit it .[/quote] Several things wrong with this -Don't tell people how your business works publicly. -Don't tell people you're not in control. You're the CEO, act like it, even if you're not in total control. You represent the company. -Keep track of shit like this. Surely there must be a log of some sort. If there isn't, whatever you're using, don't use it. [quote]If you want to be our Community Manager and help us fix all the issues your free to![/quote] This is a guy you saw on the internet. What the hell made you say this? [quote]We are not paying pennies , All money we use are from the donations we collect which is about $250 .[/quote] Once again publicly releasing private information. Don't tell people you're budget. There's a reason real companies don't release this information. You claim to be one but you sure as hell don't act like it or look like it. So it basically means you're not. [quote]We cannot use this to purchase a primary need such as a domain because creating a video game costs alot of money and marketing the game will be even more expensive .[/quote] A domain price wise is fucking nothing compared to the cost of producing a video game, and it does SO MUCH to make you look more professional. Marketing the game? You just said you had $250 so good fucking luck promoting based on ads or anything. Besides that, a marketing budget for a indie or a low-budget game should always go towards making some sort of public display where you put everything, AKA a website, and that's it. The website should look as fantastic as the budget allows, and should HAVE A FUCKING DOMAIN. That's like, so important. Also releasing budget info publicly. Again. You really have a problem doing it. [quote]You can work for us if you want but I have a special position for you. When the development progress is going in a great direction , and we have advertisements placed all over local websites then we will start hunting for sponsors.[/quote] Oh please, $250 won't get you far enough for ads while still having enough for what I said above. Everyone knows that, and it just makes you look like a dumbass. Not that I think you are one, but it doesn't matter weather you are or not if you look like one. Also, what qualifies this stranger as a possible sponsor? It doesn't appear you've even looked into this person! It makes you look very desperate. The list goes on and on, but I've already spent like 20 minutes doing this, I won't continue. While these do reflect my opinions and experience, I'm no expert, so take my advice if you so wish. I do want to see small companies like this succeed, it's always been a fascination of mine since I joined small community gameservers and watched them grow. It's something special, especially if the company grows to be huge, but you're never going to make it with a shitty public image. Learn some grammar, focus hard on how you're going to present yourself in the future, and make sure that the claims of you lying on that thread are wrong. Lying like that is incredibly bad, and someone found that using a quick google search. You have to remember that your image reflects on your past much, much more than it does in the present. If all else fails, change the company name, fix your problems, change the name of everything you plan on carrying over, and start again. I hope this helps. I might be seen as the asshole that just wants to point out your mistakes, but we learn from these mistakes. You just have to see those mistakes and reflect upon them. Best of luck, and dodge the brown boxes.

Oh , you obviously dont want to help so It doesnt matter. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=TeamEnternode;49546355]You need to work on how you present yourself before you go advertising yourself. Using words like "alot" and disregarding simple capitalization rules is unprofessional, but that's just the start. I know the thread was two years ago, but on the first page alone I can point out several mistakes you have made: Dismissal of public opinion isn't the best thing to do, but it's bad to "professionally" tell people to fuck off. Don't tell people what you use to store your money if it's not something business-grade, it make you look unprofessional Impatience implies immaturity. Immaturity makes you look bad. Several things wrong with this -Don't tell people how your business works publicly. -Don't tell people you're not in control. You're the CEO, act like it, even if you're not in total control. You represent the company. -Keep track of shit like this. Surely there must be a log of some sort. If there isn't, whatever you're using, don't use it. This is a guy you saw on the internet. What the hell made you say this? Once again publicly releasing private information. Don't tell people you're budget. There's a reason real companies don't release this information. You claim to be one but you sure as hell don't act like it or look like it. So it basically means you're not. A domain price wise is fucking nothing compared to the cost of producing a video game, and it does SO MUCH to make you look more professional. Marketing the game? You just said you had $250 so good fucking luck promoting based on ads or anything. Besides that, a marketing budget for a indie or a low-budget game should always go towards making some sort of public display where you put everything, AKA a website, and that's it. The website should look as fantastic as the budget allows, and should HAVE A FUCKING DOMAIN. That's like, so important. Also releasing budget info publicly. Again. You really have a problem doing it. Oh please, $250 won't get you far enough for ads while still having enough for what I said above. Everyone knows that, and it just makes you look like a dumbass. Not that I think you are one, but it doesn't matter weather you are or not if you look like one. Also, what qualifies this stranger as a possible sponsor? It doesn't appear you've even looked into this person! It makes you look very desperate. The list goes on and on, but I've already spent like 20 minutes doing this, I won't continue. While these do reflect my opinions and experience, I'm no expert, so take my advice if you so wish. I do want to see small companies like this succeed, it's always been a fascination of mine since I joined small community gameservers and watched them grow. It's something special, especially if the company grows to be huge, but you're never going to make it with a shitty public image. Learn some grammar, focus hard on how you're going to present yourself in the future, and make sure that the claims of you lying on that thread are wrong. Lying like that is incredibly bad, and someone found that using a quick google search. You have to remember that your image reflects on your past much, much more than it does in the present. If all else fails, change the company name, fix your problems, change the name of everything you plan on carrying over, and start again. I hope this helps. I might be seen as the asshole that just wants to point out your mistakes, but we learn from these mistakes. You just have to see those mistakes and reflect upon them. Best of luck, and dodge the brown boxes.[/QUOTE] Like I said it was a while ago , I was a different person then as I am now. I know the mistakes I made.

[QUOTE=jordan100600;49546358]Oh , you obviously dont want to help so It doesnt matter. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] Like I said it was a while ago , I was a different person then as I am now. I know the mistakes I made.[/QUOTE] There is no fucking way you read any of that.

I actually did , I've seen it all before.

[QUOTE=jordan100600;49546358]Oh , you obviously dont want to help so It doesnt matter. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] Like I said it was a while ago , I was a different person then as I am now. I know the mistakes I made.[/QUOTE] If that's true then why are you here 2 years later making the same mistakes. Presenting yourself as an amateur, being impatient and not even being able to set up a website.

and I know $250 is not a good budget to create such a game. [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] We are able to set up a website , just chose not to. Also , I am not presenting myself as an amateur individual its just people keep bringing up the old threads and that is what makes me seem like one.