Problem with collision model on ragdoll - Developers

OK, I'm trying to port a ragdoll just to figure out the process, but I seem to be completely incapable of making it work. To simplify things, I'm importing a mesh from Oblivion, to make sure the problem is with my process, not the model itself. FYI, I'm using Blender. It worked fine for static props, it works fine for every other game I care to mod, all the scripts are installed properly. I'm relatively certain my choice of editor isn't the cause of this, but since I can't rule it out, I stated it anyways. I've gotten the static mesh in just fine. The problem is with the collision model, and the rig. Everything is working in-editor, but when I compile it, everything gets fucked up. First, the collision model gets ignored. As in, the physics model I see in HLMV has no relation to the model I exported. When it left the editor, it had 17 boxes connected to the skeleton. The compiler reports only twenty faces in the collision mesh, about a fifth what should be there. Further, when I open it in HLMV and in-game, there is only a single box, located at the base of the model. I should note that there isn't even a box there in the editor, the exporter is literally making it up. HLMV seems to be telling me conflicting things, but it may just be my inexperience with this. The Physics tab tells me that there is only one collision component, a small box placed between the feet. The Bones tab tells me that all 70 bones, or at least all the ones with vertices, were imported correctly, since they're all there, and in the right spots. I suspect the problem lies with my .qc, but I cannot figure out what. Since you guys might be able to, here's my .qc: [code]$scale 64 $modelname "props_gman003/body_s_aa.mdl" $model "body" "body_s_aa.smd" $surfaceprop "flesh" $cdmaterials "models/props_gman003/oblivion" $sequence idle "idle.smd" loop fps 1 $collisionjoints "body-phy.smd" { $concave } [/code] and here's what the compiler spews out: [code] C:\Users\Kyle Jansen\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender\Oblivio nData>"c:\steam\steamapps\bob42\sourcesdk/bin/orangebox/bin/studiomdl" -game "C: \Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod" -nop4 ./body_s_aa.qc qdir: "c:\users\kyle jansen\appdata\roaming\blender foundation\blender\.blend er\obliviondata\" gamedir: "C:\Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod\" g_path: "./body_s_aa.qc" Building binary model files... Working on "body_s_aa.qc" SMD MODEL body_s_aa.smd SMD MODEL idle.smd SMD MODEL body-phy.smd Processing jointed collision model Bip01 ( 20 verts, 1 convex elements) volume: 1001.94 Collision model completed. --------------------- writing C:\Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod\models/props_gman003/body_s _aa.mdl: bones 18292 bytes (63) animations 132 bytes (1 anims) (1 frames) [0:01] sequences 468 bytes (1 seq) ik/pose 164 bytes eyeballs 0 bytes (0 eyeballs) flexes 0 bytes (0 flexes) textures 336 bytes keyvalues 0 bytes bone transforms 8632 bytes Collision model volume 1001.94 in^3 collision 0 bytes total 29680 --------------------- writing C:\Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod\models/props_gman003/body_s _aa.vvd: vertices 446016 bytes (9292 vertices) tangents 148672 bytes (9292 vertices) total 594752 bytes --------------------- Generating optimized mesh "C:\Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod\models/p rops_gman003/body_s_aa.sw.vtx": body parts: 8 bytes models: 20 bytes model LODs: 12 bytes meshes: 45 bytes strip groups: 125 bytes strips: 135 bytes verts: 83628 bytes indices: 101940 bytes bone changes: 8 bytes everything: 185945 bytes --------------------- Generating optimized mesh "C:\Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod\models/p rops_gman003/body_s_aa.dx80.vtx": body parts: 8 bytes models: 20 bytes model LODs: 12 bytes meshes: 45 bytes strip groups: 125 bytes strips: 216 bytes verts: 84834 bytes indices: 101940 bytes bone changes: 704 bytes everything: 187928 bytes --------------------- Generating optimized mesh "C:\Steam\steamapps\bob42\garrysmod\garrysmod\models/p rops_gman003/body_s_aa.dx90.vtx": body parts: 8 bytes models: 20 bytes model LODs: 12 bytes meshes: 45 bytes strip groups: 125 bytes strips: 135 bytes verts: 83628 bytes indices: 101940 bytes bone changes: 584 bytes everything: 186521 bytes Completed "body_s_aa.qc" [/code] Can anybody figure out this problem?

I'm somewhat concerned by the scale 64 to be honest. Not sure how colision and scale work together. If I were you, I'd try compiling without the scale first. Also do you have a material applied to the phymodel as well (any will do)

[QUOTE=wraithcat;23112859]I'm somewhat concerned by the scale 64 to be honest. Not sure how colision and scale work together. If I were you, I'd try compiling without the scale first. Also do you have a material applied to the phymodel as well (any will do)[/QUOTE] The scale isn't the problem, since it's being applied to both the collision and the render models. I can go ahead and retry without it, but unless there's a VERY odd bug, it won't be the source. The phymodel does have a material applied.

then you need a material and a smoothing group to be applied to the model. Doesn't matter which.

Tried again, after removing the $scale. Same result, only the collision box ended up about half a mile below the model. [editline]07:25PM[/editline] [QUOTE=beat the zombie;23113036]then you need a material and a smoothing group to be applied to the model. Doesn't matter which.[/QUOTE] As far as I know, Blender does not use smoothing groups. Instead, smoothing is done by setting flags on individual edges. [editline]07:42PM[/editline] OK, after poking around the editor quite a bit more, I think the skeleton did not import in a way that let's me use the collision model in Source. As far as I can tell, it's using some sort of bezier surface that will be almost impossible to port. I'm going to try redoing it by hand, but I would still like ideas on how to fix it. [editline]08:16PM[/editline] OK, I managed to whip up a very crude collision model that at least exports correctly. It shows up in HLMV, at least. Since nothing ever just works with Source, something very fucked up is going on in-game. It spawns, but any part of the mesh that's attached to a bone is placed about 500 units away, in a clump. I can't tell exactly what, because if I move too close to it, or look at it too hard, it disappears. I am dead serious, it fucking disappears if I look at it. I'm going to try redoing the phymodel again, trying to keep it clean. Maybe I should try trimming out the more unneeded bones.