I am designing a Roleplay map for my clan because we are making a Roleplay game play server, however i was asking my leader about using actual store names/logos but he happens to be stubborn and will not allow me to use actual names of companys. Everyone copyrights when they make RP maps like Evocity with BP and KFC, he wouldnt budge.
When i started to talk to him about what type of car pack we are going to use he said absolutey no because he thinks that all the car packs are stolen from GTA and racing games so, i have to make him 15 cars from scratch.
Two clan members have tried to convince him that were not going to be sued for having copy righted material and that he needs to open up a little.
He also refused to let me take images off Google Images because he says "that would be Stealing as well as the models on Garrysmod.org which i think is crazy.
Can someone Please tell him that hes going a little over on the copy right.
I seriously doubt anyone is gonna sue over something trivial like that, even more so since its not being sold. I say go on with your plans of using any model on this site or garrysmod.org. If he goes apeshit over it, then you know your leader is too incompetent to lead the clan.
He definatly shouldn't be a clan leader.
How old is he?
Need this information to solve your problem.
[QUOTE=Logidru;21719200]How old is he?
Need this information to solve your problem.[/QUOTE]
16 years of age
[QUOTE=TC Dominic;21719225]15[/QUOTE]
This is your problem.
[QUOTE=TC Dominic;21719225]16 years of age[/QUOTE]
Make your mind up.
Nobody cares about copyright on that level.
[QUOTE=PLing;21719301]Nobody cares about copyright on that level.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, my father was saying that aswell.
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Thank you
Make a map that seemingly looks awesome, but give him a .bsp full of real-life logos, names, etc just to see what happens.
(Moving around constantly)
Watch him flip out.
[QUOTE=Black-Ice;21721340]Make a map that seemingly looks awesome, but give him a .bsp full of real-life logos, names, etc just to see what happens.
(Moving around constantly)
Watch him flip out.[/QUOTE]
Im good at designing buildings, i've made the best buy that looks amazing with many custom best buy logos and i'm finishing up the BP gas station and the it has about 7 custom textures. The best buy will have around 15 textures of video games and real-life electronics plus all the best buy advertisement on the outside. :]
If I make an animation with a Mario model that got ripped from Brawl and show it to someone to get a job in animation would they allow it?
[QUOTE=The Robster;21749159]If I make an animation with a Mario model that got ripped from Brawl and show it to someone to get a job in animation would they allow it?[/QUOTE]
THAT would get you in trouble! If it's for a job, better to make everything from scratch. If it's for Garry's Mod, port Port, PORT!!
Wow, sounds like he's ignorant about this more than anything.
They won't sue, but they might ask you to take it down.
I hexed a Lara Croft model a long time ago and my filefront account was closed and they sent legal stuff to my yahoo mail. But since I use that for junk and post absolutely no personal info on the internet, there's no way they can find me unless they [B]really[/B] want to. But they have much more important things to do.
[QUOTE=PLing;21719301]Nobody cares about copyright on that level.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I remember somebody made some Red Bull Air Racing skins for some of the aircraft in Il-2 and they got sent a C&D from Red Bull's lawyers. They won't sue straight off, but there's nothing to stop them taking some level of legal action. It's unlikely but it could happen.
Uh, A LOT of the content in gmod is imported from other games, anyone sued? no
Well, at least nobody cares. Sticking too much to copyright laws (and what not to emblazon on a mod) certainly means that you're succumbing to those corporate cartels.
And if they do contact you, Use Fair use on there asses
Inless there not a American Company... Then your screwed
As long as you don't distribute the map/models for money, you can't be sued.
Not saying you're going to, but if you use any of my stuff (most is actually on fpsbanana) tell him it's okay because I made it and I release it to the world with no strings attached. So if you like my textures or custom models in any of my maps you can extract them with pakrat and use them in your map.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;21773079]And if they do contact you, Use Fair use on there asses
Inless there not a American Company... Then your screwed[/QUOTE]
So by that would I be able to use rigs like Male_07 or cheaple in 3d animations?
Of course you can, there's nothing stopping you. The only time there would ever be a problem is if you make money off of whatever you're making that uses others' content.
OK, here's the full picture.
On the one hand, he's right. You can definitely be sued for using models ripped from a game. To avoid liability, most people who port models (myself included) put in the requirements that you have to own the original game. Using it on a public server and actively distributing it would rather weaken the argument that nobody using the model is stealing it.
Regardless of whether it is legal or not, you can be sued. Most likely, you would get a Cease & Desist letter first, which would let you stop using them before facing consequences, but that isn't guaranteed. Further, being sued at all would be a huge financial burden. Most likely the case would end up being settled out-of-court after your clan racks up a couple hundred grand in legal fees.
On the other hand, I know of exactly zero cases where someone has been sued for stealing content. Hell, I can't even remember anyone getting a C&D or DMCA takedown request. Closest I can think of is when Garry took the nude Faith model off Garrysmod.org, just because he didn't want that on the front page of the site.
As for using company names and such, you're pretty much in the clear. As long as you aren't using a company's name to slander them, you'll probably be fine. Just don't put a Starbucks in Super Columbine Massacre II Turbo Championship Edition.
As for the arguments about Fair Use, there is really no precedent for this. There's a bunch of misconceptions, like "nonprofit" equaling "fair use". Fair Use is actually a lot stricter than most people think, and in any case the current legal climate is tending to restrict it even more.
The only time I can say that something would be 100% Fair Use is using it to critique a game. Anything else I would not be willing to bet on.
In making your final decision, you need to look at it from the other perspective. Imagine you were the CEO of Racing Video Games Incorporated. Would this internet project be a threat to your profits? Is it actively costing you money, or damaging your reputation? Are they clearly distributing content you own? Are they significant enough to spend the money to get lawyers?
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