Floating Text?

[Kai]

Ok, quick question. I need to have some text floating in mid air in a CSS map. I've seen it done on other maps as button labels and the like. So, how would I do this?

[l337k1ll4]

It's not game_text, that's all I know.

[laptopman]

They are brush based

[l337k1ll4]

It's point_message if I remember correctly.

[laptopman]

Its brush based.
He means static position, not dynamic screen position

[Kai]

No, I know it isn't brush based.
I want the floating text the is always facing in your direction.

[meowmynips]

Like in rp_cscdesert?

[Kai]

[QUOTE=MEOWTFLOL;16630590]Like in rp_cscdesert?[/QUOTE]

Uhhh... I don't know, I haven't played that map in forever. Let me find a picture.

[editline]01:07PM[/editline]

Ok, going ingame to get a screenshot. While I'm gone, maybe you guys can help me with another problem. How would I go about having everyone (In CSS) spawn without any weapons?

[editline]01:11PM[/editline]

The map crashes in GMod...
Leme try HL2:DM...

[l337k1ll4]

I know what you mean, floating text, like this:

[img]http://www.siteduzero.com/uploads/fr/files/99001_100000/99033.gif[/img]

That's point_message.

[Kai]

The text doesn't show up in HL2:DM... ARG...

[editline]01:25PM[/editline]

YES! That's it. Unfortunately when I tried point_message it didn't show up...
And yes, I did fill in the necessary boxes...

[l337k1ll4]

You set developeronly mode to 0? And you made something enable it?

[Kai]

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;16631317]You set developeronly mode to 0? And you made something enable it?[/QUOTE]

Yes and... Errr.... Let me go check...

[editline]01:37PM[/editline]

Theres no box for "Always on." How might I do that...?

[l337k1ll4]

Just create a logic_auto and set it to the enable input, logic_auto fires every time the map finishes loading.

[laptopman]

Oh wow thats really cool.
Try decompiling the map

[editline]02:59PM[/editline]

Oh wow thats really cool.
Try decompiling the map

[l337k1ll4]

What's cool? The entity?

[laptopman]

The effect., yeah

[l337k1ll4]

Yeah, I love using it, the bad thing is that people don't know about it alot so you never see it used.

[Kai]

I've never quite understood inputs and outputs, car to give a slightly more detailed explanation?

[l337k1ll4]

Make a logic_auto and set the output "onMapSpawn" to fire the "Enable" input on the point_message entity.

[Kai]

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;16632008]Make a logic_auto and set the output "onMapSpawn" to fire the "Enable" input on the point_message entity.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I still can't get it to work, maybe some pictures of the Ins and Outs... :v:

[editline]06:54AM[/editline]

Also:
[QUOTE=AlarinTaylor;16630703]Maybe you guys can help me with another problem. How would I go about having everyone (In CSS) spawn without any weapons?
[/QUOTE]

[l337k1ll4]

CSS shouldn't allow anyone to spawn without a knife.

Anyways, I'll start up hammer in a few minutes and show you what I'm talking about.

[Bellminator]

[QUOTE=AlarinTaylor;16630703]Uhhh... I don't know, I haven't played that map in forever. Let me find a picture.

[editline]01:07PM[/editline]

Ok, going ingame to get a screenshot. While I'm gone, maybe you guys can help me with another problem. How would I go about having everyone (In CSS) spawn without any weapons?

[editline]01:11PM[/editline]

The map crashes in GMod...
Leme try HL2:DM...[/QUOTE]. Just create trigger_stripweapons around all the spawns, I don't know how this will effect players in CS:S though.

[Kai]

[QUOTE=nick10510;16646306]. Just create trigger_stripweapons around all the spawns, I don't know how this will effect players in CS:S though.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I'll try that next, but first...

When I added a light in the map (I had been testing the brushwork in fullbright, as usual) and compiled, the compile went through smoothly (Except for a few errors about a skybox, but I don't have a skybox.). The problem is, when I run the map, my game crashes. The compile log checker only points out the skybox errors, so I'm out of ideas... Here's the compile log:

materialPath: f:\valve\steam\steamapps\alarin_taylor\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials
Loading C:\Documents and Settings\Alarin Taylor\My Documents\Alarin\Steam\Mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...100...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Documents and Settings\Alarin Taylor\My Documents\Alarin\Steam\Mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.prt...done (0)
Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
skybox/sky_day01_01*.vmt
Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.

No such variable "$hdrbasetexture" for material "skybox/sky_day01_01rt"
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_day01_01 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (6224 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 32 texinfos to 26
Reduced 10 texdatas to 8 (302 bytes to 174)
Writing C:\Documents and Settings\Alarin Taylor\My Documents\Alarin\Steam\Mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
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2 threads
reading c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
reading c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.prt
  30 portalclusters
  74 numportals
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...100...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10Optimized: 0 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 500
Average clusters visible: 16
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 16
visdatasize:524  compressed from 480
writing c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
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[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
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Loading c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
116 faces
48127 square feet [6930431.50 square inches]
29 displacements
16483 square feet [2373558.00 square inches]
116 patches before subdivision
6355 patches after subdivision
1 direct lights
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Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0511 sec>
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0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ComputePerLeafAmbientLighting: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Ready to Finish

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Level flags = 0

Win32 Specific Data:
physics               [variable]        6224/4194304  ( 0.1%) 
==== Total Win32 BSP file data space used: 1209938 bytes ====

Total triangle count: 282
Writing c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
25 seconds elapsed



materialPath: f:\valve\steam\steamapps\alarin_taylor\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials
Error opening C:\Documents and Settings\Alarin Taylor\My Documents\Alarin\Steam\Mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.2: File C:\Documents and Settings\Alarin Taylor\My Documents\Alarin\Steam\Mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.2, line 1: No such file or directory.



2 threads
reading c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
reading c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.prt
LoadPortals: couldn't read c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.prt



[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[1 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
116 faces
48127 square feet [6930431.50 square inches]
29 displacements
16483 square feet [2373558.00 square inches]
116 patches before subdivision
6355 patches after subdivision
1 direct lights
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...100...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10transfers 601720, max 278
transfer lists:   4.6 megs
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0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10	Bounce #2 added RGB(0, 144, 269)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10	Bounce #3 added RGB(0, 37, 69)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10	Bounce #4 added RGB(0, 11, 20)
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0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10FinalLightFace Done
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ComputePerLeafAmbientLighting: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
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==== Total Win32 BSP file data space used: 1209938 bytes ====

Total triangle count: 282
Writing c:\documents and settings\alarin taylor\my documents\alarin\steam\mapping\surf_3e_336\surf_3e_336_spawnroom_test5.bsp
24 seconds elapsed

I'll will rerun the map so I can get the exact error message for you guys. Thanks for all the help so far!

[laptopman]

Can we have a look at your map in hammer?
never use power of four displacements if you have any

[Kai]

Ok, there is no trigger_stripweapons in CSS... I know it can be done, I was just playing on a surf map yesterday that did it...
I guess I could decompile it and see how they did it, or is that frowned upon?

[laptopman]

No, infact, its smiled upon.
Decompiling is fine to learn, just not to copy directly

[Kai]

[QUOTE=laptopman;16646593]Can we have a look at your map in hammer?
never use power of four displacements if you have any[/QUOTE]

Ok, let me go screenshot it... And I do have displacements, but they are all at a power of 3.

[editline]08:37AM[/editline]

[QUOTE=laptopman;16646593]Can we have a look at your map in hammer?
never use power of four displacements if you have any[/QUOTE]

Ok, I'm not sure what you will see in these pictures, but...
(Also, the big nodraw boxes and the orange room are placeholders, this is a small part of a large map.)
[IMG]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5788/screenshot012ihb.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3485/screenshot013ddl.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/92/screenshot014gvu.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2025/screenshot016h.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7206/screenshot015g.jpg[/IMG]

There.

[Zally13]

Info_Loadout?

[Kai]

[QUOTE=Zally13;16649347]Info_Loadout?[/QUOTE]

Care to elaborate?

[Metallics]

[QUOTE=laptopman;16646593]Can we have a look at your map in hammer?
never use power of four displacements if you have any[/QUOTE]

Power of 4 displacements only cause errors in the OB engine.

[url]http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Game_player_equip[/url]

point_message does not work in CSS AFAIK.