*WIP* ba_reffjail - Developers

Hi, im making a Jailbreak map. Jailbreak is a mod for css/gmod (maybe more) where ct's are guards and terrorists are prisoners. Guards give prisoners orders like "go to the big cage, crouching or die" stuff. Prisoners can choose to obey or start a rebellion by escaping the prison, breaking into the 'armory' or backstab guards, take the guns and attempt to win the round. Rules on most servers are that guards have to set rules BEFORE they open the cells, otherwise its a 'freeday' which means prisoners can go wherever they want, do whatever they want, but however, guards arnt allowed to kill the prisoners until they start rebelling. This may sound boring to you but think of the wide selection of games such as 'simon says', 'gun toss' and 'S4S (shot for shot)' Now.. To the map :) I havnt made much yet and before trolls start crying, I texture and make the lighting LAST. Overview of the map so far. [img]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5589/reffjail1.jpg[/img] Prisoner Cells. [img]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4209/reffjail2.jpg[/img] The great slide, is to be used in the courtyard which isnt made yet. (credits to le06monz for prefab) [img]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1363/reffjail3.jpg[/img] A guard area. [img]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9218/reffjail4.jpg[/img] Tell me what you think and please share your ideas :)

Icky texturing, blocky, not much detail, Pretty small. Unknown gameplay, etc Keep working on it. Oh and be sure to add lighting

Use a better floor texture, and a good wall texture. :smile: [editline]05:00PM[/editline] Extend it to more jail cells

as i said: i will be texturing later, after i make all the blocks, then i will add PROPS and LIGHTING (big letters for the short sighted) Also, the map will be much bigger when im done with it. Oh and its not really supposed to be that detailed, i think detail is for singleplayer maps, but this however will be made for gameplay and fun, the most important thing is that its fun and easy for players. *editspam :s* And dont forget to share your ideas :)

Blocky Repetetive textured Serious lack of detail Gameplay looks bad Fences are WAY too think That's bullshit that you think deatil is for singleplayer maps. It's an excuse for you being a crappy mapper.

Dust and Office, Nuke, pretty much all CS:S official maps are highly detailed. This wasn't enough before you made a thread, I think.

Your map looks like your first map, never release a first map cause they're usually not very good. To start making it better you should retexture the map. I started on a jail map last week here some pics =) Can't be bothered to finish it(i don't play ba lol it sucks big time) [img]http://www.merrypic.com/files/je0xllb7imd7iaxnkl7x.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.merrypic.com/files/fhe6ke5awa91fpodp8iq.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.merrypic.com/files/5rmtw8gam2w9sibpesbf.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.merrypic.com/files/hh5q4n3j7a90q2ma365v.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.merrypic.com/files/meyywyz0fhlmpfbmd5oj.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.merrypic.com/files/rt38j5xthf6eyq6cun4x.jpg[/img] Maybe i should make a complete different map out of it

Left handed looks really annoying IMO The first screenie looked a bit like Subpen from the console version of nightfire.

do you people not read? but ofcourse (as predicted) your all trolls who do nothing but complain about stuff. listen, IM GOING TO MAKE TEXTURES [B]LATER ON[/B] IN THE MAPS PROCESS. i wonder why i even posted this shit here. nothing but trolls. BTW, i used to be a good mapper, but i actually decided to get something many people cant have, a life. Thats right, im talking about friends and women. (no, not your mother) I mean, i have a life, i have fun with it and when im sitting here, bored, doing nothing i thought of making a map and releasing it. and what do i get? phatass trolls. seriously, you people make me [img]http://i37.tinypic.com/b7j32q.jpg[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling / Image Macro" - Terrenteller))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=avwos;18131633]Blocky Repetetive textured Serious lack of detail Gameplay looks bad Fences are WAY too think That's bullshit that you think deatil is for singleplayer maps. It's an excuse for you being a crappy mapper.[/QUOTE] Read First post He is not texturing it till hes down with the brushes

[QUOTE=Reff X;18133856]do you people not read? [b]Obviously we do.[/b] but ofcourse (as predicted) your all trolls who do nothing but complain about stuff. listen, IM GOING TO MAKE TEXTURES [B]LATER ON[/B] IN THE MAPS PROCESS. [b]Do you understand that there's generally a special set of textures that people use so that their maps don't look like three second noob maps due to the fact that noobs don't know how to change textures?[/b] i wonder why i even posted this shit here. nothing but trolls. [b]I wonder why too... [/b] BTW, i used to be a good mapper, but i actually decided to get something many people cant have, a life. Thats right, im talking about friends and women. (no, not your mother)[b]Since when can't one manage to have both? I'd think I'm a good mapper and I have a life. I talk about girls and games and we go out. Sounds like a life to me.[/b] I mean, i have a life, i have fun with it and when im sitting here, bored, doing nothing i thought of making a map and releasing it. and what do i get? phatass trolls. [b]So now your judging our... coolness or our weight here. I'm not sure which but that's pretty silly to judge based on our posts...[/b] seriously, you people make me [b]Uhuh... Now where's the rest of the gif of him leaving?[/b] [/QUOTE] My $0.02 :)

too blocky

Used to be a good mapper? I took a 3 month break and none of my skills died. You are obviously lying.

I love the classic "life" routine.

"posted this shit here" there you saying it yourself "shit". GTFO Btw people are giving you suggestions change this change that this isn't good etc learn to take fucking critics and stop calling everyone trolls your a troll for calling someone one.

I love jailbreak, if you want some help or want to work on it with me, let me know. I map for CS:S as well. ;)

what a horror with those textures

Here are some clips of the prison from splinter cell double agent, after playing the game i was inspired make a map based it off this, I'd recommend using these as a reference, as you have a good idea, your just lacking the skills, just keep trying, and only show off what your proud off. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibo1kSifRM4[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMWp94lp6nA[/url]

Seems good, except the water in this room with showers ^^

[QUOTE=Reff X;18133856]do you people not read? but ofcourse (as predicted) your all trolls who do nothing but complain about stuff. listen, IM GOING TO MAKE TEXTURES [B]LATER ON[/B] IN THE MAPS PROCESS. i wonder why i even posted this shit here. nothing but trolls. BTW, i used to be a good mapper, but i actually decided to get something many people cant have, a life. Thats right, im talking about friends and women. (no, not your mother) I mean, i have a life, i have fun with it and when im sitting here, bored, doing nothing i thought of making a map and releasing it. and what do i get? phatass trolls. seriously, you people make me /QUOTE] Heh...i work in an office every day (bar weekends unless it's OT), so every day i talk to about 40 people. I have a life outside work and i find time to map and do a uni course at the same time. You don't forget basics of mapping. Things like not releasing images until most textures are in. Things like dev texturing anything that is in development still. Your room is blocky and ugly, how can people give criticism. We are not trolling, you just can't take the truth.

[QUOTE=FLIPPY;18137755]Read First post He is not texturing it till hes down with the brushes[/QUOTE] It will still be repetative, regardless of texture. [editline]04:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=IronPhoenix;18146685][QUOTE=Reff X;18133856]do you people not read? but ofcourse (as predicted) your all trolls who do nothing but complain about stuff. listen, IM GOING TO MAKE TEXTURES [B]LATER ON[/B] IN THE MAPS PROCESS. i wonder why i even posted this shit here. nothing but trolls. BTW, i used to be a good mapper, but i actually decided to get something many people cant have, a life. Thats right, im talking about friends and women. (no, not your mother) I mean, i have a life, i have fun with it and when im sitting here, bored, doing nothing i thought of making a map and releasing it. and what do i get? phatass trolls. seriously, you people make me /QUOTE] Heh...i work in an office every day (bar weekends unless it's OT), so every day i talk to about 40 people. I have a life outside work and i find time to map and do a uni course at the same time. You don't forget basics of mapping. Things like not releasing images until most textures are in. Things like dev texturing anything that is in development still. Your room is blocky and ugly, how can people give criticism. We are not trolling, you just can't take the truth.[/QUOTE] I'm 13, work on a map maybe 5 times a week, on seperate occasions, and go out about 6 times a week. You can be a good mapper AND have a social life. The fact that you are incapable of maintaining both simply means you're a retard. By the by, if any mods read this, don't ban me, he's basically just said if you map, you don't have any friends. Edit: Who did I just quote!? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Terrenteller))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Reff X;18131426] after i make all the [b]blocks[/b][/QUOTE] Well THERE'S your problem...

Most BA_ maps suck. there's a new one thats 1. Block 2. Fullbright 3. Makes no sense 4. Badly textured (not default texture) Seriously they seem to love it though....

Looks nothing like a prison. Try searching "prison" on google images. Also we don't care if you texture and light last, that's all we want to see. We don't want to see 2 minutes of work then get an earful from you when you don't get the "THAT IS THE GREATEST MAP I R EVA SEEN!" responses you crave. Until you can listen to us you're going to keep receiving bad feedback.

I personally would use dev textures. Also, as selby said you want to go for a realistic look. As for the map so far, frame the gate's and the ct's are clearly to overpowered as they have you confined to gated areas with an over head area.

Use the texture Nodraw start mapping, Then apply the real textures to the nodraw.

[QUOTE=avwos;18166553]It will still be repetative, regardless of texture. [editline]04:07PM[/editline] I'm 13, work on a map maybe 5 times a week, on seperate occasions, and go out about 6 times a week. You can be a good mapper AND have a social life. The fact that you are incapable of maintaining both simply means you're a retard. By the by, if any mods read this, don't ban me, he's basically just said if you map, you don't have any friends. Edit: Who did I just quote!? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Terrenteller))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Well...seeing as i was trying to say that i have a life outside my home pc means that you grasped the wrong end of the stick completely.

[QUOTE=Zally13;18140518]Used to be a good mapper? I took a 3 month break and none of my skills died. You are obviously lying.[/QUOTE] I didn't use hammer for almost 2 years, the idea that someone could forget how to be a good mapper is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=laserpanda;18183680]I didn't use hammer for almost 2 years, the idea that someone could forget how to be a good mapper is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] I didn't have sex for like 2 years and now I can't remember how to ejaculate.